Prime Minister of Japan 🇯🇵 says he wants USA 🇺🇸 to continue to lead the world and not China 🇨🇳

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In a hypothetical China vs Japan conflict with Japan being allowed to fully militarize, my money would be on Japan even today. China isn't even a fighter who rose up the ranks fighting cans, they are a fighter that built up their rep with impressive training footage, they are not battle tested at all.

IDK who wins today but historically Japan has fukked them up. Even if China wins a modern conflict, Japan would take such a large chunk out of them. Also, most of China’s population is on their eastern coast. Like 95%. Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, etc. It’s a massive country land wise but as you go inward, alot of it is rural. Obviously I hope they never get into a conflict because it would start a major war.
 

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Wouldn't matter, all they'd need to be able to do is press the trigger.
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You commies and your nuclear annihilation fantasies. :mjlol:


Ok Japan nukes the three gorges dam and kills hundreds of millions of Chinese. :manny:


According to Quora, the Three Gorges Dam would cause the deaths of the following number of people if it collapsed:
  • Changde: 5,717,218
  • Changsha: 7,044,118
  • Wuhan: 11,081,000
  • Huanggang: 1,035,496
  • Jiujiang: 4,728,778
  • Hefei: 7,965,300
  • Nanjing: 8,505,500
  • Suzhou: 10,721,700
  • Nantong: 7,282,835
  • Shanghai: 24,281,400
 

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You commies and your nuclear annihilation fantasies. :mjlol:


Ok Japan nukes the three gorges dam and kills hundreds of millions of Chinese. :manny:


According to Quora, the Three Gorges Dam would cause the deaths of the following number of people if it collapsed:
  • Changde: 5,717,218
  • Changsha: 7,044,118
  • Wuhan: 11,081,000
  • Huanggang: 1,035,496
  • Jiujiang: 4,728,778
  • Hefei: 7,965,300
  • Nanjing: 8,505,500
  • Suzhou: 10,721,700
  • Nantong: 7,282,835
  • Shanghai: 24,281,400
What nukes Japan have?

We talking 1v1 here breh.

While that'd be an ugly attack, it's a drop in the pond compared to 1.5 billion people living in China.

China got hundreds of nukes for them though and could extinct that entire population on that island (radiation would probably devastate the entire world but whatever, they wouldn't care).

I'm pro-U.S like anyone else, but in a direct conflict with zero assistance Japan is outmatched badly vs China without a single nuclear deterrent against the country with the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world.
 
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What nukes Japan have?

We talking 1v1 here breh.

While that'd be an ugly attack, it's a drop in the pond compared to 1.5 billion people living in China.

China got hundreds of nukes for them though and could extinct that entire population on that island.

I'm pro-U.S like anyone else, but in a direct conflict with zero assistance Japan is outmatched badly vs China without a single nuclear deterrent vs the country with the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world.

Also, China will not hesitate to nuke the United States and has had missiles that can do so for years.

Westerners need to stop war-gaming war with China. It inevitably means nuclear Armageddon.
 

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Also, China will not hesitate to nuke the United States and has had missiles that can do so for years.

Westerners need to stop war-gaming war with China. It inevitably means nuclear Armageddon.
Yup it's Mutually Assured Destruction when two super powers clash (even if it were instigated by another country). At that point both sides would've accepted it is what it is.

People really think Super Powers going to go to war Top Gun: Maverick style with fight jet squadron vs fighter jet squadron :mjlol: :heh:

In reality, thousands of nukes would be flying the second war was confirmed and in 30 minutes to 1 hour both Super Powers' countries would be unlivable.

Nobody trying to be the 2nd country to shoot a nuclear warhead, they want to be the first and last.

Those fighter jets who happen to be in the air wouldn't have a place to land after the nuclear volleys go both directions.
Boots on the ground? Ony if you want your soldiers to get radiation poisoning.

This is Russia vs US, but US vs China wouldn't look much different (shyt, Russia, North Korea and all NATO alliances would get involved).


The funny thing is hypersonics wouldn't even matter because no country can even reliably shoot down old ass ICBM's when they're launched with decoy missiles.

So yeah, if Japan starts acting stupid towards China it'd be in everyone's best interest to calm them down and tell them they're doing too much.
 
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What nukes Japan have?

None. But they’d be able to produce nuclear weapons easily.


In 2012, Japan was reported to have 9 tonnes of plutonium stored in Japan, which would be enough for more than 1,000 nuclear warheads, and an additional 35 tonnes stored in Europe.[39][40] It has constructed the Rokkasho Reprocessing Plant, which could produce further plutonium.[39] Japan has a considerable quantity of highly enriched uranium (HEU), supplied by the U.S. and UK, for use in its research reactors and fast neutron reactor research programs; approximately 1,200 to 1,400 kg of HEU as of 2014.[41] Japan also possesses an indigenous uranium enrichmentplant[32][42] which could hypothetically be used to make highly enriched uranium suitable for weapons use.

Japan has also developed the M-V three-stage solid-fuel rocket, somewhat similar in design to the U.S. LGM-118A Peacekeeper ICBM, giving it a missile technology base. It now has an easier-to-launch second generation solid-fuel rocket, Epsilon. Japan has experience in re-entry vehicle technology (OREX, HOPE-X). Toshiyuki Shikata, a Tokyo Metropolitan Government adviser and former lieutenant general, said that part of the rationale for the fifth M-V Hayabusa mission, from 2003 to 2010, was that the re-entry and landing of its return capsule demonstrated "that Japan's ballistic missile capability is credible."[43] A Japanese nuclear deterrent would probably be sea-based with ballistic missile submarines.[44] In 2011, former Minister of Defense Shigeru Ishiba explicitly backed the idea of Japan maintaining the capability of nuclear latency:

"I don't think Japan needs to possess nuclear weapons, but it's important to maintain our commercial reactors because it would allow us to produce a nuclear warhead in a short amount of time ... It's a tacit nuclear deterrent"[43]

 

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Sadly he is right. I don't want China to be anything but healthy competition. Their human rights record is atrocious. Not that USA is the shining example but America has far more checks and balances for people in government. China making dissidents disappear still.
 
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