Pressure the gov. of the Dominican Republic to stop its planned "cleaning" of 250k black Dominicans

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How would my idea for amnesty be politically impossible? Similar ideas have worked in other countries (of different population sizes).

And the DR is mainly concerned with 250K Haitians/blacks; that's nowhere near the amount of immigrants the US has to account for in its logjam of immigration intake.

Give an example
Of a country that has done what you proposed.

There are over 1 million UNDOCUMENTED Haitians in DR
How is DR suppose to provide help for their poor and keep up with infrastructure when Haitians keep
Flooding to DR?

And about the U.S. See "dreamers"

They US deported thousands of Haitians where was the outcry?

Again people get deported everyday b!

Haitians get your papers or FIGHT for your country stop having the world feeling bad for you and grow so GOTDAMN ballz

How the fukk you are part of a Black Country and not try to make it better???

Focus your energy demanding answers from your government instead of wasting your energy in DR.

With all that aid money after the earthquake +Haitians are skilled in building you would thing port-au-prince would be a fukking metropolis by now...
But no they prefer to be in a country that is not theirs..smh!! What kind logic is that?
 

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You invaded us and slaughtered our people and now you say that you freed us from slavery. fukk off!! You're all worthless scum, who have always envied and hated DR. You guys want our country and our people to dissapear, thats the real haitian wet dream. And the harder you hate on us, the more miserable your country becomes, to the point where the haitian population has found itself drowning in a pile of shyt. Now that you can't invade us, what you do is make everybody feel sorry for you and spread disgusting bad publicity to make the world hate dominicans.

OK, you and the people who complained about Haitians invading DR in the 1800s are either misguided or outright lying.

The truth is this..in 1822, Nunez de Caceres declared the independence of the eastern side of the island as “Spanish Haiti.” Concerned that Nunez de Caceres planned to re-establish slavery, other leaders on the eastern side asked Boyer (the leader of Haiti at the time) to help establish order. Under Boyer’s leadership and with popular support, de Caceres and his partisans were forced to surrender. Boyer reunited the entire island as dictated by the country’s Constitution which called for the preservation of one indivisible island without slavery. Boyer never colonized nor conquered nor invaded the eastern side of the island because that portion of the island was already a part of Haiti. Revisionist historians (and people like you) repeatedly accuse Boyer and Haiti of having invaded the eastern part of the island which supposedly belonged to Spain. However, if that was the case, Boyer virtually would have been declaring war on Spain. It would have made ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE for Boyer to buy peace with France (out of fear of war with France) just to declare war with Spain. Haiti never attacked any Spanish owned territory.

Boyer’s government became unpopular when it levied taxes on Haitians to pay France, but it took an earthquake in 1842 (when Haiti was still under an American embargo) to end his administration. The resulting disarray empowered rebel groups throughout the island. An opposition group sprung in the south and a separatist movement (led by Juan Pablo Duarte) gained momentum in the east and eventually led to the eastern side of the island declaring its independence in February 1844.

Here's where the US got its hands dirty...POTUS Tyler responded by saying that the United States, France, and Spain must quickly recognize this new nation (DR) in order to limit the influence of Black people in the Caribbean. The United States quickly recognized Dominican independence but waited 20 years later to recognize that of Haiti. With the eastern separatists backed by these countries, Haiti couldn't maintain the island as one nation.

Hell, even years after the eastern side became the DR, there was no defined border between the two countries until 1929 (under US occupation). The US occupation force was selected from the US south. The argument was that southern whites knew best how to control Negros. The border was drawn in a way that favored the lighter skinned Dominicans. Haiti was forced to overlook the 1795 Treaty of Basel that gave the entire island to France and return instead to the earlier 1697 Treaty of Ryswick which gave 2/3 of the island to Spain and 1/3 to France. That treaty predated and ignored the outcome of the Haitian Revolution.

THIS is what really happened during the 1820s. Haiti NEVER invaded the DR so dead that myth.

All these facts demonstrate was that various superpowers had an interest in limiting Hispaniola's black influence and created the DR in order to keep Haiti under their control. DR was established by racism.

The DR is a country that sprung from Haiti. Today, Haitians and Dominicans who can trace their family’s history to the earliest days of the DR will find that they have much in common. Indeed, the very founders of the Dominican Republic (like Duarte and Santana) were once Haitian citizens.


Be from a country created to marginalize blacks and claim that the country isn't racist, brehs...:heh:
 
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Nope.. It is easy to identify a haitian inmigrant by things other than just skin color. And if your are pitch black, but you have your documentation, even if you don't speak spansh, you will never get deported.

Except for the fact that the Dominican government for decades REFUSED to provide birth certificates to Dominicans of Haitian descent. So even if they (and their parents and grandparents) were born in the DR, they'd be NO WAY for them to have documentation proving their citizenship. :wengerknows:

Try again, pobrecito...
 

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You do cause you replied.

DR is a shyt hole. That's why y'all come here in droves. Your superiority over Haitians is ludricous knowing y'all don't succeed like they do over here.


The numbers says otherwise

And since you claim DR is a shythole urged your fellow Haitians to leave and fight for their own country...please!
 

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Give an example
Of a country that has done what you proposed.

There are over 1 million UNDOCUMENTED Haitians in DR
How is DR suppose to provide help for their poor and keep up with infrastructure when Haitians keep
Flooding to DR?

And about the U.S. See "dreamers"

They US deported thousands of Haitians where was the outcry?

Again people get deported everyday b!

Haitians get your papers or FIGHT for your country stop having the world feeling bad for you and grow so GOTDAMN ballz

How the fukk you are part of a Black Country and not try to make it better???

Focus your energy demanding answers from your government instead of wasting your energy in DR.

With all that aid money after the earthquake +Haitians are skilled in building you would thing port-au-prince would be a fukking metropolis by now...
But no they prefer to be in a country that is not theirs..smh!! What kind logic is that?


Your deflection isn't going to work here. I'm talking about the DR. Stop bringing up the US. FYI, the US deported thousands of ILLEGAL Haitian immigrants...the US didn't establish a law that retroactively deported Haitian-American citizens based on their Haitian ancestry. That's a completely different situation from what's occurring in the DR. Talk about comparing apples and oranges.

All I did was propose some alternative, less restrictive measures that could help the DR achieve its goal of "protecting its identity." Whether or not they would work for the DR is another question. But if those measures work for other countries (including the US), then I don't see why they wouldn't work for the DR (if the DR was genuinely concerned about protecting DR identity).

You'd be more effective in conveying your points if you left our the name-calling and raging estrogren that seeps through your posts.
 

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You do cause you replied.

DR is a shyt hole. That's why y'all come here in droves. Your superiority over Haitians is ludricous knowing y'all don't succeed like they do over here.

That's a crock of shyt :russ:

We come here in droves cause it's easy to step into a black neighborhood and open up a Bodega and a hair salon and make that money. I can literally take a trip to every black neighborhood in NYC and take pictures of at least 25 dominican owned businesses in each one.

That's the real root of ya problem with Dominicans.

Talk shyt about Dominicans but step into dominican bodegas for loosies and dominican hair salons for blond highlights and keratin treatments brehettes :umad:
 

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That's a crock of shyt :russ:

We come here in droves cause it's easy to step into a black neighborhood and open up a Bodega and a hair salon and make that money. I can literally take a trip to every black neighborhood in NYC and take pictures of at least 25 dominican owned businesses in each one.

That's the real root of ya problem with Dominicans.

Talk shyt about Dominicans but step into dominican bodegas for loosies and dominican hair salons for blond highlights and keratin treatments brehettes :umad:

Is that success though? Having a life long bodega or a hair salon? :scust:
 

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Is that success though? Having a life long bodega or a hair salon? :scust:

When u get to build a few of these back HOME then hell fukking yes.

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My fam has rebuilt our town in 20 years with American money. From a small town with no indoor plumbing to houses like above all up and down our road. We went from kids having to walk miles to the only school to a school bus service and 2 new schools built. Etc etc. Everybody works, sends money out there, retires and then only visits ny during the summer to see the grandkids.

If that's not success then idk what is :blessed:

Love my people :mjcry:
 

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Your deflection isn't going to work here. I'm talking about the DR. Stop bringing up the US. FYI, the US deported thousands of ILLEGAL Haitian immigrants...the US didn't establish a law that retroactively deported Haitian-American citizens based on their Haitian ancestry. That's a completely different situation from what's occurring in the DR. Talk about comparing apples and oranges.

All I did was propose some alternative, less restrictive measures that could help the DR achieve its goal of "protecting its identity." Whether or not they would work for the DR is another question. But if those measures work for other countries (including the US), then I don't see why they wouldn't work for the DR (if the DR was genuinely concerned about protecting DR identity).

You'd be more effective in conveying your points if you left our the name-calling and raging estrogren that seeps through your posts.


LIES!!! the law is not retroactive is ANYONE that is undocumented, cant prove who they are, or doesn't have any ties to the country.

Tell your people TO FUKKING LEAVE!!! OBEY THE LAW!! DEMAND THE HAITIAN GOVERNMENT TO TAKE CARE OF ITS PEOPLE.

you keep framing your argument about "protecting identity" when you know damn well the economic and society stability issues when you have milions of people you can't account for in a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY. If you can't do the math with that aspect of the argument alone then you are a fool. i KNOW FOR A FACT. Haitins wouldn't allow it in their country/.

anyways SE VAN!!
 
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