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the 2016 polls were actually right for the most part
Main difference between 2016 vs 2020 is Joe is above 50% in most of the battleground state polls
even though Hillary was ahead in most of the 2016 polls, she was never above 50% and within the margin of error, usually 47 vs 44
Joe is hitting 52-53% in most of these polls where Donald is still at his 44%
 
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Main difference between 2016 vs 2020 is Joe is above 50% in most of the battleground state polls
even though Hillary was ahead in most of the 2016 polls, she was never above 50%, within the margin of error, it was usually 47 vs 44
Joe is hitting 52-53% in most of these polls where Donald is still at his 44%
Biden is also leading with suburban women, seniors and shaved off double digits from cheeto's uneducated white males...

For somebody that barely won in 2016 in a low voter turnout year, add in record setting voter turnout in 2020 and he's done...

I get why people are paranoid because of 2016, but this election appears to be more like 2008...
 
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I wouldn't say they are way more accurate, but they have factored in the error they made in 2016 regarding Cheetos voters...

There is no silent Trump voter in 2020, they're all out and proud to be dumb fukks voting for a con man...

The numbers that matter are from the districts which clearly shows the "silent vote" in 2020 is in Joe Biden's corner...

This 100%.

If people are so nervous that it makes them vote....that's good. However 2020 is nothing like 2016.

Trump was an outsider and represented "change." He had no record to run on. Now he has a record and it sucks.

Plus, there were far more undecideds and many of those broke late for Trump.

This election is all about turnout. Hillary barely lost and she was the most hated Democratic candidate in a generation AT LEAST. All of that working against her and she was probably less than 100k votes in the midwest from winning the election.

Biden will get those midwest states, might lose Ohio....but don't be surprised if he pulls a southern state (Florida, Texas, NC or Georgia). Based on the map, Biden basically starts with 232 EC votes to Trump's 125. Biden has a lot of paths and Trump has to run the table.

This is a lot like the Democratic Primary. Bernie was overrated because people hated Hilary more than they liked Sanders. Everyone thought he had it in the bag but didn't account for how things would look without Hillary. Same situation....Biden isn't Hilary and Trump isn't talented enough as a politician to win over people that aren't already in his bag.
 
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Biden is also leading with suburban women, seniors and shaved off double digits from cheeto's uneducated white males...

For somebody that barely won in 2016 in a low voter turnout year, add in record setting voter turnout in 2020 and he's done...

I get why people are paranoid because of 2016, but this election appears to be more like 2008...

Yep...this could get real ugly for Trump. He's desperate to snatch Florida and Pennsylvania but I think PA is already lost. Plus the time he spends in FL....might cost him NC, TX or GA. Losing one of those even if he won Florida....game, set, match for JB.
 

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The fact that Nate is making this sort of statement is telling.
Yup and he was very cautious in 2016...

I remember him going on MSNBC or CNN telling them, despite what the polls say, Trump can seriously win this and getting bashed for it by the leftist echo chamber...

2020 is clearly different, men lie, women lie, numbers don't...
 
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