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So what? It’s a contract. You agreed to pay it back, at the agreed upon rates. Lot of places and people need help. Get that 10k forgiven by helping out locally in your community or city. You signed a contract. Own up to it. You just want it handed to you because you made a dumb choice? fukk that

This logic applies to small business owners. They all took on the risk of starting a business. No one put a gun to their head and forced them to go into business for themselves. Forced them to take out loans to fund said business. They did that. Then Corona destroyed their livelihood and the Government came to their rescue with PPP loans. The wide majority of them will get the loan forgiven. But people can’t get their student loans forgiven. Okay :skip:
 

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This logic applies to small business owners. They all took on the risk of starting a business. No one put a gun to their head and forced them to go into business for themselves. Forced them to take out loans to fund said business. They did that. Then Corona destroyed their livelihood and the Government came to their rescue with PPP loans. The wide majority of them will get the loan forgiven. But people can’t get their student loans forgiven. Okay :skip:
If the government closes your place of business, they should compensate. They aren’t getting bailed out if they just fail. Restaurants go out of business every day and folks lose it all. No ones saving them. They are getting bailed out for governors saying close your doors. You must have some bad debt also
 

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If the government closes your place of business, they should compensate. They aren’t getting bailed out if they just fail. Restaurants go out of business every day and folks lose it all. No ones saving them. They are getting bailed out for governors saying close your doors. You must have some bad debt also

So something unthinkable happens (a pandemic) and you’re okay with people being bailed out of their debt obligations but you’re not okay with other people being bailed out who had something unthinkable happen to them? A generation being the most educated while also having the least amount of wealth. Your argument is dishonest. I’m good bro. Don’t worry about me. Worry about making your logic make sense.
 
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So something unthinkable happens (a pandemic) and you’re okay with people being bailed out of their debt obligations but you’re not okay with other people being bailed out who had something unthinkable happen to them? A generation being the most educated while also having the least amount of wealth. Your argument is dishonest. I’m good bro. Don’t worry about me. Worry about making your logic make sense.
The government forcing a business to close and bailing them out for the forced closure is not akin to student loan forgiveness. What’s dishonest? It’s apples and oranges. If the government closed your school it would also erase the fees you owe because you can’t attend. If your business fails any other time, it’s tough shyt for you. If it’s humming along fine until the state says close the fukk up, they compensate you for it. It ain’t splitting atoms. Then again, maybe it is and that’s why folks pile up mounds of debt for shyt degrees and want handouts for their bad choices
 

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The government forcing a business to close and bailing them out for the forced closure is not akin to student loan forgiveness. What’s dishonest? It’s apples and oranges. If the government closed your school it would also erase the fees you owe because you can’t attend. If your business fails any other time, it’s tough shyt for you. If it’s humming along fine until the state says close the fukk up, they compensate you for it. It ain’t splitting atoms. Then again, maybe it is and that’s why folks pile up mounds of debt for shyt degrees and want handouts for their bad choices

Bro, your argument is dishonest. There’s no way you can be against student loan reform but okay with the government bailing out business owners. And stop phrasing it like the government was at fault for shutting the economy down. A deadly virus shut the economy down. Without government intervention millions of people would’ve died and those businesses would’ve still failed. It’s hilarious watching you flail to explain why ruthless capitalism is okay for college students but business owners deserve grace because this wasn’t supposed to happen to them :mjlol:
 
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Bro, your argument is dishonest. There’s no way you can be against student loan reform but okay with the government bailing out business owners. And stop phrasing it like the government was at fault fo shutting the economy down. A deadly virus shut the economy down. Without government intervention millions of people would’ve died and those businesses would’ve still failed. It’s hilarious watching you flail to explain why ruthless capitalism is okay for college students but business owners deserve grace because this wasn’t supposed to happen to them :mjlol:
The government closed restaurants, bars etc. the virus didn’t set local mandates. The government did. you can’t do that without compensating said businesses. That’s what should have been done nationally right away, to try and mitigate the virus. Pay everyone to stay home, for the duration. Not piecemeal like it was. Once shyt opens up and no one patronizes said business, no ones bailing anyone out. It closes down and they lose their shirt like anyone else. It’s a completely different analogy to student loans. Is your credit card or rent being forgiven? No? Then why the fukk should your student loans be. Work it off in exchange for the relief. Give a little back for your handout
 
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A measly 10k forgiven and you gotta work in public service for a year :trash: finna switch my vote
 

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The government closed restaurants, bars etc. the virus didn’t set local mandates. The government did. you can’t do that without compensating said businesses. That’s what should have been done nationally right away, to try and mitigate the virus. Pay everyone to stay home, for the duration. Not piecemeal like it was. Once shyt opens up and no one patronizes said business, no ones bailing anyone out. It closes down and they lose their shirt like anyone else. It’s a completely different analogy to student loans. Is your credit card or rent being forgiven? No? Then why the fukk should your student loans be. Work it off in exchange for the relief. Give a little back for your handout
I agree with some the first part but you can't blame the government for having to shut things down when citizens aren't doing their part. This country is the only one that politicized wearing a mask. And you against student loan forgiveness? Colleges and business aren't living up to their end of the deal. Raising prices every year and businesses now saying they want you to have x amount of experience as well as a degree
 

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I agree with some the first part but you can't blame the government for having to shut things down when citizens aren't doing their part. This country is the only one that politicized wearing a mask. And you against student loan forgiveness? Colleges and business aren't living up to their end of the deal. Raising prices every year and businesses now saying they want you to have x amount of experience as well as a degree
I don’t blame the local government for trying to take control. They did what they had to because the federal government failed. The national and local governments compensating folks for public health safety is not akin to forgiving someone’s anthropology degree debt. That only came up because someone mentioned the small biz pandemic bailouts, which is a poor analogy when discussing student loans. If you think schools are too expensive, no ones forcing you to sign away your financial freedom for a loan. If you do, the responsibility for said loan falls on you
 

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I don’t blame the local government for trying to take control. They did what they had to because the federal government failed. The national and local governments compensating folks for public health safety is not akin to forgiving someone’s anthropology degree debt. That only came up because someone mentioned the small biz pandemic bailouts, which is a poor analogy when discussing student loans. If you think schools are too expensive, no ones forcing you to sign away your financial freedom for a loan. If you do, the responsibility for said loan falls on you
That's why this country is where it's at:francis:
 
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