This is getting ridiculous, but even more just outright dangerous 
President Joe Biden Has Won the 2020 Election
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GreenGhxst
Veteran
Can't wait until they get his orange cracker ass up outta there
Chez Lopez
Neo-Abolitionist
Um the point here is that it doesn look like he is preparing to leave. It looks like he is digging in. And this is at the Pentagon, which means soldiers, aside from the street soldiers he already has. U are witnessing the coup.
G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman
Logic Is Absent Wherever Hate Is Present
Also fired the person in charge of the nukes...but back to more important things like talking about Kamala only shouting out black women 
Hater Eraser
Veteran
News|US Elections 2020
Biden campaign says White House ‘trespassers’ can be escorted out
Joe Biden’s campaign says Donald Trump can be escorted out of White House if he refuses to admit defeat in US election.
Tens of thousands of votes remain to be counted, many of them from heavily Democratic areas of the United States [David Goldman/AP]
6 Nov 2020
Joe Biden’s United States presidential campaign has warned that President Donald Trump could be escorted from the White House if he refuses to admit defeat in the knife-edge US election.
Democratic challenger Biden is edging towards the presidency after pulling ahead in the key states of Pennsylvania and Georgia.
But Trump has made it clear that he is not ready to concede, launching unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud and claiming falsely that he had been cheated out of re-election.
“As we said on July 19th, the American people will decide this election. And the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House,” Biden campaign spokesman Andrew Bates said on Friday.
In an interview with Fox News in July, Trump refused to commit to accepting the results of the election and a peaceful transfer of power if he lost.
US President Donald Trump has made it clear that he is not willing to concede the knife-edge US election [Mandel Ngan/AFP]
With tens of thousands of votes remaining to be counted, many of them from heavily Democratic areas, Biden opened up a 9,000-vote lead over the Republican incumbent in Pennsylvania, real-time state election results showed.
Pennsylvania and its 20 electoral votes would be enough to put the 77-year-old Biden past the magic number of 270 votes in the Electoral College, which determines the presidency.
Biden has also taken a razor-thin lead in Georgia, a state once seen as reliably Republican, which announced on Friday that it will recount the votes.
The former vice president will deliver an address to the nation on Friday evening, a campaign official said.
Biden last spoke on Thursday afternoon when he told reporters in his home town of Wilmington, Delaware that he had “no doubt” he would be declared the winner of the election.
With his victory looking increasingly likely, the US Secret Service increased its protective bubble around the former vice president, The Washington Post reported on Friday.
Trump’s term ends at noon EST [17:GMT] on January 20, 2021, whether he is reelected or not.
And the Secret Service would be the ones to do it, one former U.S. official and two experts told Newsweek.
The scenarios Newsweek discussed with its sources are hypothetical. No network has called the race and the votes are still being counted. Trump has a narrow path to victory in the electoral college. He has never said or implied that he would continue to occupy the White House after exhausting any legal challenges to the vote.
Still, this is what happens when a sitting president doesn't stand up to pass the baton to his or her successor. It's never been seen before in the United States and there is no imminent threat that it will happen in January, but there is a plan in place to prevent a transition in power crisis.
The 20th Amendment has it that Trump, or any other lame-duck leader, loses his presidential mandate January 20 at noon, and, if he tries to stick around after that, the very guard once tasked with protecting the nation's top officeholder now has to evict him.
"The Secret Service would escort him off, they would treat him like any old man who'd wandered on the property," one former official involved in the transition process between former President Barack Obama and Trump told Newsweek.
U.S. President Donald Trump is removed by a member of the Secret Service from the Brady Briefing Room of the White House in Washington, DC after the Secret Service shot an apparently armed man outside nearby, August 10.BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP/GETTY IMAGES
And whether or not Trump actually attends the Inauguration Day ceremony is irrelevant to the actual transfer of authority—in which Trump would also lose privileged modes of transportation such as the presidential Air Force One and his iconic, fortified limousine, the Beast.
"As of noon of January 2021 the Beast doesn't belong to him, AF1 doesn't belong to him, and the White House doesn't belong to him," former U.S. Navy intelligence and counter-terrorism specialist Malcolm Nance told Newsweek.
The system is intentionally built to work independently of the whims of whoever happens to be in the White House at the time.
"The transition process is automated. There is no 'do-it yourself' move," Nance said. "So if he doesn't have a designated place, they'll decide for him. Basically, the systematic things will happen whether he's a willing participant or not."
Trump also loses his commander-in-chief status, meaning the Pentagon cannot and will not come to his aid should Biden be sworn in.
"A POTUS becomes the commander-in-chief upon taking the presidential oath of office," a Pentagon spokesperson told Newsweek. "A former POTUS does not retain any authorities as they relate to the U.S. Armed Forces."
It's not the military's place to intervene, however. Like the former official Newsweek spoke to, Nance also indicated it would be the Secret Service to remove the president, physically if need be.
"If he says he will not physically leave the White House, they will physically remove him," he added. "They may have to put hands on him to remove him. They may tell him if he doesn't make his flight, he may have to contract his own flight."
Such a scenario would be unprecedented. Of the 43 men who preceded Trump in the presidency, 35 have willingly ceded power either because their two-term limit expired, they lost an election or chose not to run again. Eight died and one quit.
Trump managed to unwillingly make history last year by being only the third president to be impeached, but—like Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton before him—the Senate saved Trump from being ousted.
Overstaying his Oval Office welcome after an election, however, would truly be unparalleled.
"No sitting president has ever refused to leave office or vacate the White House in the course of American history," the White House Historical Association told Newsweek.
Rather, the first ever undetermined U.S. election would result in the third-in-line assuming the presidency. In this case, that's Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, an influential Democrat often targeted by Trump's rhetoric.
"There is no constitutional provision to extend the term of office," the White House Historical Association said. "If no president has been chosen by January 20, 2021, then the statutory line of succession begins, which means the Speaker of the House ascends to the presidency. The Vice President's term similarly ends at noon on January 20."
Many outlets project Biden is most likely to pull through based on the current count, however, and Berggruen Institute Vice President of Programs Nils Gilman said he cannot see Trump participating in the formalities of his predecessors.
"It's hard to imagine Trump graciously welcoming Biden to the White House on the morning of January 20th, then doing the traditional ride with him down Pennsylvania Avenue, then sitting behind him on the podium and politely clapping as Biden gets sworn in," Gilman told Newsweek. "Presiding over the ceremonial celebration of his own political failure doesn't seem at all in character."
Trump's absence, Gilman argued, would not only fuel more partisan bickering but also introduce dangerous new precedents for future leaders who potentially would not conceive of such a break in tradition.
"This would indeed be yet another example of how Trump is systematically breaking the norms that make felicitous governance and cooperative policymaking possible—in this case by traducing the symbolic performance of the idea that the US government is a government of all Americans, not just the government of a single party," Gilman said.
2020, a year defined by the COVID-19 pandemic, civil unrest and economic turmoil, has painfully demonstrated the limits of saying "never," and opened up an array of discourse on a number of doomsday scenarios.
In fact, an incumbent Trump unwilling to walk away has already been imagined by Gilman and other experts concerned about the potential for a break in the United States' so far uninterrupted democracy.
Earlier this year, Gilman and Georgetown Law professor Rosa Brooks established the Transition Integrity Project, an exercise involving a bipartisan group of experienced individuals from various government, media and academic backgrounds to establish four scenarios for the 2020 election.
These involved Biden winning the electoral and popular votes by a healthy margin, Biden winning the two metrics by a narrow margin, Trump winning the former but losing the latter and a too close to call case where the victor is not established the following day.
Needless to say, the final scenario has become reality, as did predictions of widespread efforts by the Trump campaign and friendly media to amplify "stolen election" and "voter fraud" narratives.
This hypothetical series of events quickly turns ugly, with Trump refusing to concede and mass nationwide demonstrations potentially turning violent as a new uncertainty grips an already tumultuous country. Trump presents himself as the "law and order" option.
Despite these attempts to overturn his rival's victory through propaganda and social media smears, officials and even some Republicans quietly begin to discuss backing Biden and, by the time the president-elect is certified by lawmakers on January 6 and Inauguration Day arrives two weeks later, it's clear that Trump no longer has the backing of the U.S. government.
"Biden's electoral victory was certified but Trump refused to leave the White House. He began to burn documents and potentially incriminating evidence, and continued to launch attacks against the legitimacy of the election. President Trump released a series of pardons for members of his administration as well as himself before the Secret Service escorted him out of the White House," the scenario goes.
"But the Secret Service demonstrated its 'culture of professionalism' (as one member of the Federal Government Team indicated) by indicating that it would be 'loyal to the office, not to the
person' and therefore it would escort Trump out of the White House on January 20," it continued.
Speaking to Newsweek in light of recent events, Brooks stood by this assessment.
"If Biden is projected to win and is then formally certified as the winner in the Joint Session of Congress on Jan 6, he is officially going to be the next President, whether Trump concedes or not," she said. "Once Biden is sworn in on inauguration day, power transfers to him, and the Secret Service will indeed escort former President Trump out of the White House."
Her colleague, Gilman, agreed.
"As to Trump refusing to leave the White House physically, I must say that I find this to be an exceedingly unlikely turn of events," he told Newsweek. "At some point the Secret Service will simply escort him out."
The White House and Secret Service did not respond to Newsweek's request for comment.
Chez Lopez
Neo-Abolitionist
Lol at thinking it is this simple. You sure trust these ppl huh.
Chez Lopez
Neo-Abolitionist
Lol at thinking it is this simple. You sure trust these ppl huh.
Not sure what happened here but I am amazed at ppl fighting this fight, like its ours.
Our struggle is against the whole gov not half. Its gettn ready to get bad for the ppl, no matter who wins their fight.
Not sure what happened here but I am amazed at ppl fighting this fight, like its ours.
Our struggle is against the whole gov not half. Its gettn ready to get bad for the ppl, no matter who wins their fight.
Trumps not even close to being black Hitler, you gotta stop the disrespect to the people before us.
Trump the type of guy to drop a nuke on Iran the day before inauguration
aXiom
Maximized Potential
Yall watch too many movies... first it was mass riots, shootings and a full on civil war if he lost, now it's a coup.. chill with the fantasies. At worst, he probably won't attend the inauguration.
G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman
Logic Is Absent Wherever Hate Is Present
Okay
GreenGhxst
Veteran
yeah, I get that
at some point he will have to get out, "coup" or not
this is not 3rd world Venezuela
blockburna420
Consecutive thumbs up
I do wanna see them drag him out the white house kicking and screaming live on cnn 
Hater Eraser
Veteran
He better get a bigger bullhorn then ..
Trump to face stricter Twitter rules post-presidency
President Trump’s tweets will face harsher scrutiny from Twitter when he leaves office, losing protections the platform grants to world leaders.
The tech behemoth treats violations of its policies from presidents and prime ministers differently from those of regular users, arguing the public should be able to see what their leaders are saying and that such posts are newsworthy in and of themselves.
But that protection does not extend to leaders once they leave office, meaning Trump’s preferred mode of communication could be restricted in ways he’s been able to avoid for the past four years.
The Associated Press and all the major news networks called the presidential race for Joe Biden on Saturday morning, putting a Jan. 20 deadline on Twitter protections for Trump's tweets.
Twitter has been loath to delete any of Trump’s tweets while in office, instead opting to flag to users that his controversial posts may contain misleading or false information and restrict users’ ability to retweet and like them.
A Twitter spokesperson confirmed to The Hill that the president's Twitter account would be treated like any other when he leaves office.
"Twitter’s approach to world leaders, candidates and public officials is based on the principle that people should be able to choose to see what their leaders are saying with clear context. This means that we may apply warnings and labels, and limit engagement to certain Tweets," the spokesperson said. "This policy framework applies to current world leaders and candidates for office, and not private citizens when they no longer hold these positions."
Specifically, that means Trump’s tweets could be deleted if they break the platform’s rules, and that he could accumulate “strikes” for repeated policy violations, which would worsen punishments from the platform.
The president has wielded his Twitter feed as one of the world’s largest megaphones since he began his presidential campaign in 2015, using it to announce major policy and personnel changes and roil Washington and world markets.
His activity on the social media platform has come under an avalanche of scrutiny since Election Day earlier this week, as he has railed against vote tallies in key states and made unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud and other misconduct at polling places.
Those tweets prompted led to warnings on his Twitter feed, with the company posting labels that read, “Some or all of the content shared in this Tweet is disputed and might be misleading about an election or other civic process.”
Users can still choose to pass through those warnings and view the messages, though they can’t directly retweet or like them.
Twitter, too, has come under a national microscope over how it handles Trump’s tweets, facing a barrage of criticism from Democrats that it has been too lax on his posts throughout his first term.
Trump to face stricter Twitter rules post-presidency
President Trump’s tweets will face harsher scrutiny from Twitter when he leaves office, losing protections the platform grants to world leaders.
The tech behemoth treats violations of its policies from presidents and prime ministers differently from those of regular users, arguing the public should be able to see what their leaders are saying and that such posts are newsworthy in and of themselves.
But that protection does not extend to leaders once they leave office, meaning Trump’s preferred mode of communication could be restricted in ways he’s been able to avoid for the past four years.
The Associated Press and all the major news networks called the presidential race for Joe Biden on Saturday morning, putting a Jan. 20 deadline on Twitter protections for Trump's tweets.
Twitter has been loath to delete any of Trump’s tweets while in office, instead opting to flag to users that his controversial posts may contain misleading or false information and restrict users’ ability to retweet and like them.
A Twitter spokesperson confirmed to The Hill that the president's Twitter account would be treated like any other when he leaves office.
"Twitter’s approach to world leaders, candidates and public officials is based on the principle that people should be able to choose to see what their leaders are saying with clear context. This means that we may apply warnings and labels, and limit engagement to certain Tweets," the spokesperson said. "This policy framework applies to current world leaders and candidates for office, and not private citizens when they no longer hold these positions."
Specifically, that means Trump’s tweets could be deleted if they break the platform’s rules, and that he could accumulate “strikes” for repeated policy violations, which would worsen punishments from the platform.
The president has wielded his Twitter feed as one of the world’s largest megaphones since he began his presidential campaign in 2015, using it to announce major policy and personnel changes and roil Washington and world markets.
His activity on the social media platform has come under an avalanche of scrutiny since Election Day earlier this week, as he has railed against vote tallies in key states and made unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud and other misconduct at polling places.
Those tweets prompted led to warnings on his Twitter feed, with the company posting labels that read, “Some or all of the content shared in this Tweet is disputed and might be misleading about an election or other civic process.”
Users can still choose to pass through those warnings and view the messages, though they can’t directly retweet or like them.
Twitter, too, has come under a national microscope over how it handles Trump’s tweets, facing a barrage of criticism from Democrats that it has been too lax on his posts throughout his first term.