POTUS or Prisoner; The '24 Trump Campaign Fvckery thread

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Well consider this, FOX News is really the Mainstream Media's Right-Wing platform while OAN, Newsmax, Breitbart and Blaze are more what the Right craves, but on a lesser platform.

Now the big difference is, a majority of the Right's media will be for FOX News but they are beginning to hate them even more because of dumping Tucker along with throwing out Trump; trying to prop up DeSantis. The issue stems from this... the Right are only getting stuff from OAN, Newsmax because of platforms like Facebook and Twitter.

When you have some Neo-Nazi that wants to spread their message... it's through Twitter; they won't promote it on Parlor or Truth Social because:
1) The User Base to make it go viral is low
2) It's a Echo Chamber of like minded folks.


So when Twitter goes down, the Right will look for a platform that will do three things...
1) Have a high user count like Bluesky and Mastodon
2) Be able to troll and harass the Left.
3) Promote Alt-Right Material.


Now the Right can do that easily on Twitter and tell the Left "If you hate us, get your ass out of here!" but here is the thing, when Twitter goes down, there is no platform that that can do all three things, because the reason why #1 is #1, is because it blocks out #2 and #3.

So what I am getting at, is I don't view Right Wing Media as fractured, but Right Wing Media for the most part is only relevant because of Social Media and Facebook. Facebook has begun to crack down, and all that energy is being focused on Twitter; but I agree with the rest

Just like Republicans with Trump, they don't know how corrupted that voter base is for Trump.

Even if DeSantis could talk decent, Trump would still beat him because the MAGA-base has consumed the GOP but the GOP thinks they can just purge all of Trump but are finding out the hard way how deep the rot has gone. The same can be said for Twitter, Republicans REALLY should be supporting Musk because when Twitter goes under... it's going to be hard for OAN, Newsmax, and every other Right Wing Media to gain traction in Social Media because no other platform will allow it.

For stuff like Telegram or Discord, here is another problem... most middle age folks would have to ask their teenage child how to setup a account; these people are not tech-savy, like Left Wingers, to them Cable television is good enough... and they only need Twitter and Facebook; both very user-friendly interfaces.

It will almost be like a severe drug withdrawal, having Right Wing Americans so used to Alt-Right, QAnon messages... and having to deal with FOX News telling them the truth to a degree.
The GOP got their SCOTUS justices and probably should have taken the short-term L and helped to remove Trump after J6. They would have taken the same short-term losses they're taking anyway, sure, but could have reconfigured their voting base for the long-term. They could have just made inroads with Latinos and Black men and calmed down a bunch of white folks who desperately want to see them as the responsible, fiscally conservative, very white (with enough exceptions that they can deny that it's a racist party) party they can support.
 

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The GOP got their SCOTUS justices

Agree, but... I think as time goes on... the Roe v. Wade overturn and Dobbs decision is causing them headaches, as Abortion acceptance is probably around 60% because even the notion of Rape/Incest Pregnancies can't be blamed on the victim.

It's given the Left a weapon to use against them in elections going forward.

All they need to do is point the finger and say, "This person believes you should carry the baby full term, even if it kills you." and it drowns out anything they say.
 

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Desantis is Scott Walker part 2. He fought a war about something outside of what most Americans care about. This is example #500 to the democrats that want them to turn on the LGBT. You’re out of touch with where the country is, and more importantly with what Gen Z are on.
 

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All they need to do is point the finger and say, "This person believes you should carry the baby full term, even if it kills you." and it drowns out anything they say.
looking forward to a lot of this in '24

stop letting republicans hide behind this bullshyt 'pro life' slogan. get on the debate stage and say 'big government republicans like ted cruz believe that a woman should be forced to give birth, even if she's raped'
 

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Tomorrow in Wisconsin, Janet Protasiewicz takes her seat on the Supreme Court. :ahh:

Projected Overturns before 2024 Election:
  • Wisconsin's 1849 Ban on Abortion
  • Wisconsin Redistricting before the General Elections

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Democrats worry their most loyal voters won’t turn out for Biden in 2024

Brittany Smith, 33, is the executive director of Black Leadership PAC, a new organization working to turn out Black voters in Philadelphia. (Michelle Gustafson for The Washington Post)
Democrats are worried about a potential drop next year in turnout among Black voters, the party’s most loyal constituency, who played a consequential role in delivering the White House to President Biden in 2020 and will be crucial in his bid for reelection.

Their concern stems from a 10 percentage-point decline in Black voter turnout in last year’s midterms compared with 2018, a bigger drop than among any other racial or ethnic group, according to a Washington Post analysis of the Census Bureau’s turnout survey. Such warning signals were initially papered over by other Democratic successes in 2022: The party picked up a U.S. Senate seat in Pennsylvania, Sen. Raphael G. Warnock won reelection in Georgia and anticipated losses in the House were minimal.

But in key states like Georgia, the center of Democrats’ plans to mobilize Black voters in large margins for Biden in 2024, turnout in last year’s midterms was much lower among younger and male Black voters, according to internal party analysis.

The drop in Black turnout has become a focus for Democratic leaders as the party reorients to next year’s presidential contest. Biden’s election in 2020 hinged on narrow victories in states like Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania that former president Donald Trump had won in 2016. Democratic activists are cautioning that the party can’t afford to let support from Black voters slip.

W. Mondale Robinson, founder of the Black Male Voter Project, shared a dire assessment of Democrats’ potential turnout problems with Black men. In many of the battleground states, he said many Black men are “sporadic or non-voters,” meaning they are registered, but have voted in one or none of the past three presidential elections. Robinson said Democrats spend too much time focused on converting “conservative-leaning White women” in the suburbs who they see as swing voters. Instead, he said, they should focus more on turning out Black men, viewing them as swing voters who are debating whether to vote or stay home.

“The Democratic Party has been failing epically at reaching this demographic of Black men — and that’s sad to say,” Robinson said. “Black men are your second-most stable base overwhelmingly, and yet you can’t reach them in a way that makes your work easier.”


Biden’s political team says it has received the message and is taking action, especially among younger Black men.

“We have to meet them where they are and we have to show them why the political process matters and what we have accomplished that benefits them,” said Cedric L. Richmond, a former Biden adviser who is now a senior adviser at the Democratic National Committee. He said there will be a clear focus on making Black voters aware of how they have benefited from Biden administration policies, learning from the errors of past Democratic efforts that fell short.

“We will not make the mistake that others made of not drawing all the connections,” he said.

Black voter advocates say the challenge is particularly acute among Black men, many of whom say they feel alienated from the political process and were hurt by policies pushed by both parties that led to increased incarceration and a decline in manufacturing jobs decades ago. Many say their lives haven’t improved regardless of which party was in power, and are dispirited after the country elected Trump, life was upended by a global pandemic and violence worsened in urban areas.

Many Democrats interviewed said they were less worried about Black women, whose voting enthusiasm has historically been more robust than that of Black men. Black women were a huge factor in Biden’s victory in 2020. Advocates expect that trend to continue, particularly with Vice President Harris on the ticket and the appointment of Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, who both made history as the first Black women in their roles.

Terrance Woodbury, chief executive of HIT Strategies, a polling firm focused on young, non-White voters, has been shopping around a PowerPoint presentation to liberal groups warning of the need to act soon to convince Black voters that they have benefited from Biden’s time in office.

Part of the problem, he argues, is that the party’s focus on Trump and Republican extremism is less likely to motivate younger Black men than arguments focused on policy benefits. The messaging, he has argued, must focus on how Black communities have benefited from specific policies.

His own polling has shown that voters’ belief that their vote doesn’t matter is the greatest barrier to voting among Black Americans.

A Washington Post/Ipsos poll of Black Americans in May found a tepid reaction to Biden’s reelection. Just 17 percent said they would be enthusiastic if he wins another term, 48 percent said they’d be satisfied but not enthusiastic, 25 percent said they’d be dissatisfied but not angry and 8 percent said they’d be angry about another Biden term. The poll also found that nearly 8 in 10 Black Americans say they would not consider voting for Trump over Biden and that 54 percent would be “angry” if Trump were to become president again.

Brittany Smith, the executive director of the Philadelphia-based Black Leadership PAC (BLP), which is working to turn out Black voters, said she has noticed a change in how Black people respond to her get-out-the vote efforts in recent years. In the past, she simply needed to remind people of where and when to vote. Now, she said, many express a cynicism about politics that requires a deeper level of persuasion.
 
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