POTUS or Prisoner; The '24 Trump Campaign Fvckery thread

[Worthless Loser]

Fair enough. I can see Trumpsim w/o Trump in the primaries, but how would that get him over the line in a general election?

Youth pairs well with fresh ideas. If all he is offering is trumpism, how will being young help?

Even if that's the case, would you consider them to be pro trumpism or anti-trumpsim states?

DeSantis will likely make some pivot to the center in a general election like a lot of politicians do. But I see him making a pivot in a way that keeps his Trumpism policy ideas alive without being seen as unelectable.

Being young helps DeSantis because Biden being old will be noticeable to voters. President Biden standing next to someone on the debate stage 35 years younger is not good optics for Biden and only helps DeSantis be viewed as a fresh young face.

I'd consider those states pro-Trumpism and anti-Trump. Again, Trumpism without Trump. The policy ideas without the crazy.

 

[the cac mamba]

Is it that he doesn't need specifics or there just isn't anything specific to separate him from the pack of today's GOP? He's not an outsider new to politics. How will he win by telling voters that he can fix problems nationally that he didn't address as a rep or governor these last 10 years?

If 2016's politics isn't relevant to the discussion, what makes you think 2008's climate has anything to do with what will happen in 24?

because biden's biggest strength relies on trump being in the picture. i dont know how i can say the same fukking thing differently 5 times he's old as fukk. the economy has problems to fix. its not the theory of relativity

your posts are frankly, fukking stupid. a 10 thousand vote margin in AZ does not mean AZ belongs to joe biden same with GA

 

[Pressure]

and the 10 percent of them that did, allowed biden to win GA and AZ and WI by 20 thousand votes or less not to mention the millions of right leaning independents who are right back in the R column with desantis

john mccains family endorsed biden in 2020. does biden get that endorsement against desantis in 2024?

Thanks for playing. He actually had 90% approval during nov 2020 which was actually higher than when he won in 2016.

Donald Trump didn’t lose GA for that reason. He lost because of increased voter turnout from Dem voters. The same ones who elected ossoff and then warnock twice.

In fact he only won the first time because Hillary’s unfavorables and terrible campaign.

 

[Pressure]

There are moderate Republicans who voted for Biden or didn't vote at all which helped Biden win swing states. These same people would vote for DeSantis. I don't understand why this is hard to understand.

DeSantis is disciplined. Trump is crazy.

If Kari Lake wasn't crazy, she would have won Arizona. If Herschel Walker didn't have CTE, there is a high chance he would have won Georgia.

Trump gained 12 million votes from 2016 to 2020. Y’all just be saying shyt.

 

[the cac mamba]

Thanks for playing. He actually had 90% approval during nov 2020 which was actually higher than when he won in 2016.

Donald Trump didn’t lose GA for that reason. He lost because of increased voter turnout from Dem voters. The same ones who elected ossoff and then warnock twice.

good point; dem turnout was maximized. and then 20 thousand republicans in some county voted republican, but not for trump. trump lost by 12 thousand

those 20 thousand vote for desantis, and boom. he takes GA

 

[Pressure]

good point; dem turnout was maximized. and then 20 thousand republicans in some county voted republican, but not for trump. trump lost by 12 thousand

those 20 thousand vote for desantis, and boom. he takes GA

Trump had more votes in 2020. Biden was just more popular. Deal with it sissy

 

[the cac mamba]

Trump had more votes in 2020. Biden was just more popular. Deal with it sissy

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[Pressure]

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Describe your own posts crehs

 

[the cac mamba]

Describe your own posts crehs

imagine thinking biden would beat desantis in GA

 

[Pressure]

imagine thinking biden would beat desantis in GA

He may or may not, but it has nothing to do with what y’all think.

 

[Worthless Loser]

Trump gained 12 million votes from 2016 to 2020. Y’all just be saying shyt.

No shyt. It's common for the sittting President to get more votes when going for re-election. Which is why it's hard for a sitting President to lose the election due to the power of being the incumbent. They have time in office to grow their support and unless given a real major reason to vote against a sitting President, voters don't like to rock the boat too much.

Nixon, Reagan, Clinton and Bush all gained more popular votes during their re-election bid than their original run.

It still didn't stop Trump from losing Arizona. The first time Republicans lost it since 1996. And losing Georgia. The first time Republicans lost it since 1992. Because he's toxic.

Trump had 94% of the Republican party vote. He needed to be at 96 or 97%. This is something many political analysts have said after the election. The other 6% voted for Biden. Don't let the small percentage fool you. That's over 4 million votes that went to Biden on estimate.

 

[Pressure]

No shyt. It's common for the sittting President to get more votes when going for re-election. Which is why it's hard for a sitting President to lose the election due to the power of being the incumbent. They have time in office to grow their support and unless given a real major reason to vote against a sitting President, voters don't like to rock the boat too much.

Nixon, Reagan, Clinton and Bush all gained more popular votes during their re-election bid than their original run.

It still didn't stop Trump from losing Arizona. The first time Republicans lost it since 1996. And losing Georgia. The first time Republicans lost it since 1992. Because he's toxic.

Trump had 94% of the Republican party vote. He needed to be at 96 or 97%. This is something many political analysts have said after the election. The other 6% voted for Biden. Don't let the small percentage fool you. That's over 4 million votes that went to Biden on estimate.

Trump lost because Biden had 24 million additional voters. And those voters weren’t republicans switching sides.

Dem turnout was higher than before because Biden was a better candidate than Hillary and Trump was disliked.

I know y’all are obsessed with the idea of needlessly playing the middle based on your own anecdotal experiences.

Scary ass nikka.

 

[Worthless Loser]

Trump lost because Biden had 24 million additional voters. And those voters weren’t republicans switching sides.

Dem turnout was higher than before because Biden was a better candidate than Hillary and Trump was disliked.

I know y’all are obsessed with the idea of needlessly playing the middle based on your own anecdotal experiences.

Scary ass nikka.

Going by the smallest of margins, Trump only lost the election by 44,000 votes. He lost Arizona by 12,000, Georgia by 12,000 and Wisconsin by 20,000. If Trump were to win these states, he wins re-election on a 269-269 tie. This is the same Wisconsin that turned around and re-elected nut job Ron Johnson by 27,000 votes in 2022 because Democrats were stupid enough to run a black progressive as the Senate nominee.

No one is disputing that Dem turnout was record levels, but there's no reason to also downplay or reject the notion that Republicans voting Biden over Trump severely hurt Trump. Especially in those three states. Everything all came together for Biden. High Dem turnout due to Trump's unpopularity, winning Independents, and winning a small portion of Republican voters.

You don't have to resort to shyt posting and trolling to get a reaction.

 

[88m3]

DeSantis is going to pivot to the center?

With his record?

 

[the cac mamba]

im still struggling to see this iron grip trump has on the party. he's weaker and more pathetic every day