Post Mike Brown: Hip Hop doesn't feel right to me anymore

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But you are investigating based on that claim. What is so anti black about MTV, BET & VH-1? You tell me. What on those channels contributes to the destruction of society? Most of these c*nts claim to not even watch that channel or listen to the radio.

... Honestly

How can I speak on that when I'm not informed on it and I'm telling you directly I'm going to research what the user said?

I never stated anything negative about those networks breh..

I don't watch either so I couldn't tell you. My focus was on the gatekeepers and owners of a genre that is falsely associated with black people.
 

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... Honestly

How can I speak on that when I'm not informed on it and I'm telling you directly I'm going to research what the user said?

I never stated anything negative about those networks breh..

I don't watch either so I couldn't tell you. My focus was on the gatekeepers and owners of a genre that is falsely associated with black people.
Black people aren't writing and performing rap music? Black people aren't the ones breaking the laws and getting thrown in prison? Black people aren't posing with guns talking bout how many nikkas they kill? Where's the accountability?
 

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I'm currently researching the prison system and the correlation between the system and the cable networks


As we slowly move the disscussion forward I'm wondering if we as a consumer (more so my fellow Africans) can detach from a genre we have no control in.

Everyone is screaming the same thing..

Well what do you listen to? The underground is better? Maybe we should change our image?


No sir. Maybe we should see hip hop for what it is now. If it's a tool being used by gatekeepers/enlightened ones to maintain the status quo it doesn't matter if the end users try and change it.. They don't have any power to change it...


Start a new genre. Unlike the hip hop forefathers who had no idea how big hip hop would be we can start something fresh and lay a foundation that will be extremely hard to infiltrate.


We're a very resillant people. We've survived everything our enemy has thrown at us. We don't own hip hop. We can't save something we don't own.
Yes the underground is better and its still alive.

I prefer to support the underground rap scene. You run from rap now and create another genre then you will run again when the next genre is taken over.

Put your foot down brotha. It aint over yet.
 

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Black people aren't writing and performing rap music? Black people aren't the ones breaking the laws and getting thrown in prison? Black people aren't posing with guns talking bout how many nikkas they kill? Where's the accountability?

I also stated that this thread unlike the millions before it will not focus on the artist.

Go back and do the first seven pages again fam.
 

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I see what your are saying but I was feeling like that prior to Mike Brown over the last couple of years in particular. Its hard for me to listen to anything new that has those drug/violence/misogyny themes...BUT I dont have my head in the clouds like its a new phenomenon or its anymore prevalent then it was before. All the shyt that's nostalgic to me has those themes on overdrive. I cant shyt on the new generation of rappers when I got C-murder on my ipod. And if anything, it feels like this era is even more open to various forms of hiphop that don't promote the shyt I feel is detrimental to the black community. So I listen to that :manny: We're just getting older and seeing things with a mature mind is all. Its too easy to blame rap music for whats happening. I always go back to "okay, so what were slave owners and jim crow purveyors' listening too?" Seriously, violence,drugs and stereotypes didn't start with rap music and it wont end with it. White folks were still treating us like garbage when we were marching in suits and shyt. nikkas was gangbanging and selling drugs before any rapper said it on a record.Lets be reality.

But again, I get where you coming from. I cant digest the majority of this shyt anymore. Especially when its coming from fukking 30 and 40 year old millionaires.

don't really see what this situation has to do with hiphop? crooked racist cops existed before hiphop and will exist far after hiphop is gone. this is a race issue. point blank period, and i don't see what hiphop has to do with it?


and again, ok there is a lot of violent music coming out of the youngsters these days....is that new?

I understand when I was 14 when "Kings of Crunk" came out & made a lil nikka wanna "hit you wit a louisville slugger bat" :russ: But unless you're mentally unstable no music or video games will make you do no vile shyt like that. Look breh I see ya point on rap but KRS been sayin how the game shady since that Nelly beef. I'm only 24 but blaming a genre when humans been murdering, raping & pillaging since day one(show me a civilization who hasn't) is deflection tactics. Racists will be racist, serial killers will kill, world peace is never happening,war will occur & rapes will happen. You can say im pessimistic but history repeats itself
 

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I also stated that this thread unlike the millions before it will not focus on the artist.

Go back and do the first seven pages again fam.
You're fukkin stupid. This is so funny. Black man gets arrested for selling drugs. Why they locking us up, we ain't make it, we don't bring it in, we just trying to get paid. Black male makes negative rap, don't blame him, blame the white man, he the one payingem and promoting it. Where is the accountability?!! Where!!
 

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You're fukkin stupid. This is so funny. Black man gets arrested for selling drugs. Why they locking us up, we ain't make it, we don't bring it in, we just trying to get paid. Black male makes negative rap, don't blame him, blame the white man, he the one payingem and promoting it. Where is the accountability?!! Where!!

The hell?

Breh you've seriously been baiting me for whatever reason.. Just leave the thread gracefully my g

No need to disrespect me anymore.
 

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I understand when I was 14 when "Kings of Crunk" came out & made a lil nikka wanna "hit you wit a louisville slugger bat" :russ: But unless you're mentally unstable no music or video games will make you do no vile shyt like that. Look breh I see ya point on rap but KRS been sayin how the game shady since that Nelly beef. I'm only 24 but blaming a genre when humans been murdering, raping & pillaging since day one(show me a civilization who hasn't) is deflection tactics. Racists will be racist, serial killers will kill, world peace is never happening,war will occur & rapes will happen. You can say im pessimistic but history repeats itself

It's less about blaming a genre


And more about focusing on who it's owned by and how it's used when programming the masses to view or group a specific demographic of people.
 

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I'm currently researching the prison system and the correlation between the system and the cable networks


As we slowly move the disscussion forward I'm wondering if we as a consumer (more so my fellow Africans) can detach from a genre we have no control in.

Everyone is screaming the same thing..

Well what do you listen to? The underground is better? Maybe we should change our image?


No sir. Maybe we should see hip hop for what it is now. If it's a tool being used by gatekeepers/enlightened ones to maintain the status quo it doesn't matter if the end users try and change it.. They don't have any power to change it...


Start a new genre. Unlike the hip hop forefathers who had no idea how big hip hop would be we can start something fresh and lay a foundation that will be extremely hard to infiltrate.


We're a very resillant people. We've survived everything our enemy has thrown at us. We don't own hip hop. We can't save something we don't own.
Pfft that definitely aint it :mjlol:

The work with rap is already working itself. even they can hand million dollar 360 contracts out to as many chief keefs and bobby schmurdas as they like but the market for those dudes is small and ever shrinking. the internet is a blessing cause without it we wouldn't have a J. Cole, Wale, Kendrick or even Drake in the mainstream. Just whatever create-a-thug jimmy iovine puts in front of you
 

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You say this and yet r&b suffers a similar fate to hip hop. A lot of the current top r&b artists are thugged out, like Chris Brown, or not something worth aspiring to, like Rihanna. If you want ANY source of uplifting - or fukk, just NORMAL- black music, you have very few options. Not all of us black people like hip hop, or want to continue listening to hip hop. I'd also like a little more variety than r&b as an alternative. Since there aren't really any alternatives, and rap is the face of black music curently, it carries the burden of expressing the full black experience and not a myopic pit of negativity and corporatism that rap embraces. We don't have much media that speaks for us, and it sure as fukk ain't the music anymore, so where do we go? Face it; black music is dog shyt in 2014. You can pretend like positive rap being a thing isn't going to happen due to the undercurrents of our culture, but I feel like it's an excuse.

I said it in another thread that black artists are marketed as the least talented, most negative based artist in the airwaves.
 

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I have mixed emotions about hip hop right now but I am leaning towards agreeing with the op. White people have felt black people were a threat long before our hip hop fore fathers were even a gleam in their parent's eye, so to rely on them for help us is absurd. The images we put forth are damaging to black youth. We criticize and complain when white people portray us as thugs on predominately white entertainment, as we should. We complain when black actors put on a dress which feminizes the perception of the black male to the world, as we should. We complain when we are seen shucking and jiving, as we should. But if we do this, we have to have the same resolve when we have a chance to put our own images forth. The way we treat black women in music and videos is absolutely disgusting. Can you imagine how many young girls are growing up with the images of Love and Hip Hop, Real Housewives etc. as their definition of women. The way we talk about our fellow brothers in music is absolutely disgusting. While we need to report on whats going on in our neighborhoods, we also have a responsibility to say how we can fix it. Violence sells in rap but it doesnt mean its the right thing to talk about for an entire album. Crack rap sells but it doesnt mean it should be the main focus of an album.The whole time the protesting was going on in Furgeson, I wonder how many voter registration tents were set up to register the 12% of black voters registered in the city. When we get the stage to make a impact, we have to drive the dagger directly into white supremacy. Images of black people doing the right thing on television and in music will spark change in our youth. Im all for building a black utopia within the US, but we need to take control of our image.

edit: they were registering voters a couple of days ago :blessed:

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You're fukkin stupid. This is so funny. Black man gets arrested for selling drugs. Why they locking us up, we ain't make it, we don't bring it in, we just trying to get paid. Black male makes negative rap, don't blame him, blame the white man, he the one payingem and promoting it. Where is the accountability?!! Where!!

Bruh you're expecting accountability or shame from people who were on the very lowest rung of society. We're talking convicted felons and the like with priors that ensure they'll likely fail in the job market. You think these folks wouldn't mind selling out for a short taste of the life most of america dreams about? Are these rappers not replaceable? Who's been handing out contracts to thug rappers long after they went out of style?


Schoolboy Q even said what convinced him to start rapping is when 50 said he'd recommend rapping to any dude with a criminal record.

but then again you're.....you
 

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Bruh you're expecting accountability or shame from people who were on the very lowest rung of society. We're talking convicted felons and the like with priors that ensure they'll likely fail in the job market. You think these folks wouldn't mind selling out for a short taste of the life most of america dreams about? Are these rappers not replaceable? Who's been handing out contracts to thug rappers long after they went out of style?


Schoolboy Q even said what convinced him to start rapping is when 50 said he'd recommend rapping to any dude with a criminal record.

but then again you're.....you
Accountability. You made the choice. So if a nikka is sucking dikk for $25 a whop, that's cool because that more than he can make because he's a felon? Bullshyt.
 
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