Possible Coup attempt happening at Howard University after a million dollar embezzlement scandal.

[FSP]

FAMU back on top

 

[Reece]

My school

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Too many students graduating with dumb ass degrees that leave them broke as fukk to even give anything back.
HBCUs should only offer stem courses and cut all those other bullshyt ass degree programs out.

Excuse you??!! .. my "bullshyt" degree led to six figure career advancements along with other benefits that I would not have attained if I did not have it. I had to start at the bottom and level up (just like a majority of degree programs and career choices) but my degree set the foundation for other career opportunities and life experiences. If everything was focused on STEM, then the market would be oversaturated i.e. (Business Administration, Communication degrees)- it's called supply and demand (oh and that's something I learned in my bullshyt economics class). Had I chose another degree option that I was not passionate about or felt interested in studying, I (or any other students) would not have applied myself and earned any type of degree, at all. Everybody is not built for STEM. NO degree options are guaranteed.

 

[FlimFlam]

exactly.. where are the so-called and influential, powerful black elite that @ab.aspectus made a whole thread about? Where are their contributions to the dire financial situations faced by the HBCU's as a whole. But yet, they have the capital, political connections and influence to affect change supposedly. This is an example of what happens when there is not a collective concentration of power, minimal oversight, dependence on corporate sponsorship, lack of reinvesting in education, etc.

Not saying whos available to support shouldnt do so, or up it....but we need to realize that these other schools are partly hoisted up by an ENTIRE CLASS of REALLY rich, and REALLY wealthy people...not borderline....and extra emphasis on entire class.

We got nikkas with money, we damn sure cant say we have a full fledged class of them though....only so much a handful of people can relatively do, papered up (at least image wise) or not...that has to be considered as well

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Now watch the the negros comment like HBCUs the only ones with issue like this
When PWI have had hundreds of millions misappropriated and numerous sex scandals


"Buh buh what about black on black crime?"

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Not saying whos available to support shouldnt do so, or up it....but we need to realize that these other schools are partly hoisted up by an ENTIRE CLASS of REALLY rich, and REALLY wealthy people...not borderline....and extra emphasis on entire class.

We got nikkas with money, we damn sure cant say we have a full fledged class of them though....only so much a handful of people can relatively do, papered up (at least image wise) or not...that has to be considered as well

Thank you. I respect your answer... gave me a different perspective.

 

[EndDomination]

Im not sure anything can be done to fix thinga for HBCUs at this point

What would u suggest be done?

Consolidate some of them.
Wilberforce and Central State here in Ohio need to be one school, all resources pooled together, and a stronger base of students.
There are a lot of HBCUs nearby other schools that should just combine, instead of stretching their limited pool of students even thinner.
Loyola of LA has the best model for first-generation incoming students; ensure that they’re prepared, and focus on them until they graduate.

Honestly, I know it’s a tired point, but until alumni money can create endowments like Non-HBCUs I don’t know if there’s much than can be done.

We (black folks, both graduates and non-graduates of HBCUs) don’t support monetarily, so it forces them to rely on the government faucet, which can be cut off or lessened at any point.

I believe HBCUs and their environment offer a lot to young black folks, but the leadership is filled with old-school thinking blacks who either refuse or have zero idea on how to market and attract the new generation. “Homecoming” is not enough to sell a kid born in the year 2000 to come to a HBCU.

It needs some new blood, IMO

The Most Generous Alumni Donors to American Colleges & Universities | The Best Schools
I was thinking this too, but it’s more than a greater chunk of the alumni giving back to the school (though that would do them a great deal of good), HBCUs don’t have billionaire alumni either, and those are the ones that really keep schools afloat.

The schools need to be revamped from the ground up, but they also are limited in what they can do, the wealthiest Black families are still sending their kids to Ivies and too publics/privates, and the job/investment market is not as open to Black people as it is to Asians and Whites.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Now watch the the negros comment like HBCUs the only ones with issue like this
When PWI have had hundreds of millions misappropriated and numerous sex scandals


"Buh buh what about black on black crime?"

Just because it happens at other institutions doesn’t make it right. We have to stop with that.

Also, when it happens at other institutions, it doesn’t affect accreditation or the overall welfare of the institution. HBCUs aren’t in a position to absorb misappropriated funds and continued scandals, and even if they were, why wouldn’t they want to be better than the status quo?

 

[newworldafro]

And the young administrators are brought into a system of graft where if they try to change it, they get fired by the Board of Trustees. Saw it happen at Morehouse, Alabama State and FAMU lately, now I guess its Howard's turn.

Young administrators come in and want to change the system not realizing that this system is unchangeable until you start to get people in on the policy level.

But another solution is consolidating all local HBCU's into one university system, with one flagship university regionally and the other schools kind of operating on the same level. You can't have Morgan, Bowie, and Howard all competing for the same demographics and funds.

Imagine if we could get rappers to start endowing shyt. I think HBCU's just need better leadership and a stronger marketing campaign like they had in the 90s.

I agree with everything but trying to create a HBCU system

Nah..each has unique history. Definitely need better endowents.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

Just because it happens at other institutions doesn’t make it right. We have to stop with that.

Also, when it happens at other institutions, it doesn’t affect accreditation or the overall welfare of the institution. HBCUs aren’t in a position to absorb misappropriated funds and continued scandals, and even if they were, why wouldn’t they want to be better than the status quo?

fukk does that have to do with the point of self hating nikkas always got negative shyt to say only about black shyt

Stop excusing your c00ning

 

[invalid]

exactly.. where are the so-called and influential, powerful black elite that @ab.aspectus made a whole thread about? Where are their contributions to the dire financial situations faced by the HBCU's as a whole. But yet, they have the capital, political connections and influence to affect change supposedly. This is an example of what happens when there is not a collective concentration of power, minimal oversight, dependence on corporate sponsorship, lack of reinvesting in education, etc.

Why are you associating this with the other thread? Like, I understand you disagree and all, but damn....

This is the result of financial mismangement and Howard allowing fiscal oversight to be given to people that are not qualified. Nothing more.

And dire financials situation? You can miss me with that. Howard has a larger endowment than the PWI I attended in Chicago. Their issue, like most HBCU's, is mismanagement.

2016 Howard Endowment - $685.8 Million

Howard University - Wikipedia

My Alma Mater -

2016 Lake Forest College Endowment - $89.1 Million

Lake Forest College - Wikipedia

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Why are you associating this with the other thread? Like, I understand you disagree and all, but damn....

This is the result of financial mismangement and Howard allowing fiscal oversight to be given to people that are not qualified. Nothing more.

And dire financials situation? You can miss me with that. Howard has a larger endowment than the PWI I attended in Chicago. Their issue, like most HBCU's, is mismanagement.

2016 Howard Endowment - $685.8 Million

Howard University - Wikipedia

My Alma Mater -

2016 Lake Forest College Endowment - $89.1 Million

Lake Forest College - Wikipedia

Mismanagement is an issue, but you’re comparing a small school with 1500 students to a University with over 10,000 students, and multiple Division 1 athletic programs

89 million to take care of 1500 students is no comparison

 

[Easy-E]

 

[iBrowse]

"I heard that Dr. Frederick was vindictive. I heard stories from student activists. I wasn’t trying to be an activist. I just wanted financial aid money to go where it belongs — to students. I wanted people to be held accountable. If I had known that standing up would screw up my life like this, I would have never said a thing. I guess that’s how they operate. He inspires fear which breeds compliance. Lesson learned.”

 

[invalid]

Mismanagement is an issue, but you’re comparing a small school with 1500 students to a University with over 10,000 students, and multiple Division 1 athletic programs

89 million to take care of 1500 students is no comparison

Fair Enough. How about this being a better comparison.

DePaul University -
Enrollment: 23,539 (double Howard's enrollment)
Endowment: $492.3 million (less than Howard's endowment)

Howard and other HBCU's need to get the right people in to make things work.

I do understand that there is an increase of students dependent on financial aid and are not able to come out of pocket for tuition.

I understand alumni not having the types of jobs where they can give back the university.

But most all schools are facing these issues. A qualified administration will make it work.