Poor Sam Bradford......Schotty

[heisenburrr]

wake isnt better than long he hasnt dont anything all year untill he faced Az terrible oline long is just as good as rusher imo hes better and hes better at the run. and yea idk much aout ur DTs but once brockers gets settled down as a rookie he and langford will dominate and we'll have the best dline in the nfl

ur Run D looks to be tops in the league but the only team u played that has a good running game is houston... we played redskins bears and seahawks whos intent going into the game is running it all day long. but then on the other hand ur pass D is and ours is the best in the league

should be a good game tho

bruh, langford was bench warmer status on the phins...

wake was terrorizing QBs every single game, sacks are not the only indication of productivity and stats will tell you Long is not good in the running game

then again.. we should be 3-1 right now if it wasn't for some missed field goal

but that's the Dolphins for you...

 

[Sulu]

bruh, langford was bench warmer status on the phins...

wake was terrorizing QBs every single game, sacks are not the only indication of productivity and stats will tell you Long is not good in the running game

then again.. we should be 3-1 right now if it wasn't for some missed field goal

but that's the Dolphins for you...

i kno sacks arent everything... long single handledy caused 2 ints off pressures in the seahawks game
what stats will tell u long is bad in the running game .. u just talkin outta ur ass with that one

The Rams’ defense recorded 46 total pressures in last night’s game… just let that sink in for a moment — 46. That is almost three times as many as they averaged per game last season (17.7). Long with 13 Alone.

 

[heisenburrr]

i kno sacks arent everything... long single handledy caused 2 ints off pressures in the seahawks game
what stats will tell u long is bad in the running game .. u just talkin outta ur ass with that one

The Rams’ defense recorded 46 total pressures in last night’s game… just let that sink in for a moment — 46. That is almost three times as many as they averaged per game last season (17.7). Long with 13 Alone.

PFF ranked him a -14.5 cumulative in the run game last season

I'll agree that as far as pass rushing, their play definitely compares and it's a question of preference

but Wake plays the run better

I told you already though that your overall team pass rush is definitely better because of Quinn

 

[yseJ]

Singletary thought the QB position was no more important than any other position on the team. He got fired for that very reason.

singletary got fired because his team didnt perform. no one cared what his thoughts were on the qb position

 

[yseJ]

I think you just proved my point here.

If a qb has a bad day the team WILL lose. If a wr has a bad day then the team isn't necessarily fukked, same with RB, TE, FB etc

And up until last year the 9ers have sucked, and a lot of that had to do with horrible qb play, regardless who it was.

Last year Alex Smith actually played well, and was a good "game manager". he did enough to get points on the board to allow the running game and defense to win the game.


to sum up
Winning (and losing) starts with the QB. its hard to deny. No other player on the offense can make the same impact that the QB can.
a bad day and they will lose, very rarely will a team win when the qb has a bad game(multiple turnovers, low completion %,etc)
The same can not be said about any other single player.

I didnt prove shyt, I just stated that a good qb makes good decisions.

and not one position can win games by themselves, but any player at any position can surely lose the game by themselves.

its funny how you now bring up good numbers for game managers when we started talking about sanchez and how he needed to be replaced, because it all started with him.

and it didnt start with him, when the team was good he was good enough. but forget it, you dont understand that concept.

and its not hard to deny. winning,especially in playoffs, starts with good defenses and good turnover differential. when average to below average qbs like smith and sanchez can do well enough so their teams can come within a superbowl...it doesnt "start" with a qb. unless the qb is elite or godawful, the position is just not that important as its made out to be.

same with 'making plays' Qb's. overrated.

 

[Sulu]

PFF ranked him a -14.5 cumulative in the run game last season

I'll agree that as far as pass rushing, their play definitely compares and it's a question of preference

but Wake plays the run better

I told you already though that your overall team pass rush is definitely better because of Quinn

link?

Chris Long and Robert Quinn. While Long didn’t quite see the bump in his sack total that we believed that he might do from facing Bobby Massie, he still added another nine pressures (1 sack, 1 hit, 7 hurries) to take his season total to 34 after just five games. At his current pace, that will give him 109 total pressures for a 16 game season, a simply astonishing number that would obliterate the 83 he got last season.

 

[Sulu]

im done tho... we'll see whats up next sunday.. i think we win 24 - 13

 

[heisenburrr]

link?

Chris Long and Robert Quinn. While Long didn’t quite see the bump in his sack total that we believed that he might do from facing Bobby Massie, he still added another nine pressures (1 sack, 1 hit, 7 hurries) to take his season total to 34 after just five games. At his current pace, that will give him 109 total pressures for a 16 game season, a simply astonishing number that would obliterate the 83 he got last season.

it's from PFF premium subscription, Wake has 34 total pressure too, in 4 games

i say 17-10 fins

 

[Maschine_Man]

I didnt prove shyt, I just stated that a good qb makes good decisions.

and not one position can win games by themselves, but any player at any position can surely lose the game by themselves.

its funny how you now bring up good numbers for game managers when we started talking about sanchez and how he needed to be replaced, because it all started with him.

and it didnt start with him, when the team was good he was good enough. but forget it, you dont understand that concept.

and its not hard to deny. winning,especially in playoffs, starts with good defenses and good turnover differential. when average to below average qbs like smith and sanchez can do well enough so their teams can come within a superbowl...it doesnt "start" with a qb. unless the qb is elite or godawful, the position is just not that important as its made out to be.

same with 'making plays' Qb's. overrated.

When did I ever say this? You dudes stay making shyt up.

This whole response was to what?
I don't recall making any of those arguments

 

[yseJ]

When did I ever say this? You dudes stay making shyt up.

This whole response was to what?
I don't recall making any of those arguments

you said qb position has the most impact out of all positions and has the most direct correlation to winning.

"If a wr has a bad day then the team isn't necessarily fukked, same with RB, TE, FB etc"

if rb loses 3 fumbles...the team is fukked, same for every other position

Im tired of you jumping and wiggling to different argument to be honest.

first of all it was sanchez did bad so he has to be replaced and everything starts wit the qb. then you agreed he was decent in 2010 but somehow inferred it was because of that jets were good that year

Im finna leave this at that.

 

[Maschine_Man]

you said qb position has the most impact out of all positions and has the most direct correlation to winning.

And its true. prove to me how someone that is involved in 100% of the offensive plays does NOT have the most impact.

"If a wr has a bad day then the team isn't necessarily fukked, same with RB, TE, FB etc"

if rb loses 3 fumbles...the team is fukked, same for every other position

a rb is only really going to be involved on average 50% of all the plays on offense. I will admit that the rb is probably the second most important player on the offense though. but in no way is his affect more than the qb. if a rb has a bad day then the offense can still move the chains.(it will be harder but not impossible by any means) 3 fumbles can fukk a team up for sure. thats no doubt.

Im tired of you jumping and wiggling to different argument to be honest.

what is my different argument?

first of all it was sanchez did bad so he has to be replaced and everything starts wit the qb. then you agreed he was decent in 2010 but somehow inferred it was because of that jets were good that year

no, see you aren't listening to what I am saying. in 2010 the talent that was around him, the running game, the defense carried most of the load and his responsibilities weren't as much. But with less talent on the team now, and with the defense not playing as good he is being forced to do more. And he isn't showing that he is capable of that. He was never a great qb, but back then he still had that "potential" which is why the team stuck with him, and I don't blame them cuz he did show that he could make plays and he was still young.

tell me that anything I am saying is wrong....but I bet you can't.

Im finna leave this at that.

c'mon bruh, your move.

I'm waiting(anyone that dap'd you can speak up to if they got something to say)




II'm not expecting a reply cuz no one has been able to refute ANYTHING I have said with facts.
just talk

 

[StreetDawah]

Dude is beyond awful

 

[NYC Rebel]

I felt bad seeing Bradford forced to throwing check down after check down, rampant bubble screens and hitting receivers short of the sticks yesterday.

Or seeing Stephen Jackson going in motion, split wide all the way to the end of the field, giving the Jets DL a heads up that it was time to tee off on Bradford.

Rams fans were complaining yesterday after the game that they shouldn't have gone away from the run.

Poor Sam.

An Open Letter to Brian Schottenheimer - Gang Green Nation

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Hey man, you got the last laugh on this one.

If yall would have lost to the Rams yesterday this thread would have been poppin today.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Hey man, you got the last laugh on this one.

If yall would have lost to the Rams yesterday this thread would have been poppin today.

I know it would have, but Schotty is Schotty to teams that really take the time to break him down.

Dude called a horrible game yesterday. Made it easy on the Jets.

Cro was out there calling their plays and reading their signals before the snap. You'd think an NFL coach would change that before a game knowing who they were going to face.