Poll : Did Kamala lose the election because she's a woman?

Did Kamala being a woman play a role in her lost?

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Luke Cage

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2020 election happens in the middle of one of the weirdest black swan event of our lifetime (COVID). We literally thought this was the end of the world at first (march-april). The summer of 2020, Olympics are cancelled, early in the summer, nation wide riots for george floyd, whole world is pointing its finger at the USA. Trump was acting a fool (that part i agree is the same). Then for the rest of the year, a lot of the world was on a curfew. Then an attempted coup in January 2025.

2024, people are outside again, Ukraine war going on, Gaza genocide going on, all under the Biden admin (which she represents in the eyes of a lot of people), Biden looking worst than larry holmes status in the debate so people lost even more trust in mainstream media (which for the most part were heavy in kamala's corner besides fox). Trump surviving an assassination attempt which gained him a lot of clout in his base.

Yes Kamala and Biden had similar programs. But the difference is that in 2020 it was theory. In 2024 it was after 4 years of them applying their policies. People don't care about if he had congress in his pocket in order to do what he wanted. They don't care that part of the prosperity under Trump was thanks to Obama. They look at it like "how was my life from 2017 to 2020 vs how was my life from 2021 to 2024.". They view it as back then there was no war, Russia, Iran, China, North Korea wasn't bold enough to cross lines. Maybe they saw Biden was looking like a mark. And Kamala was part of it all but was invisible.

The most powerful VP in US history was probably dikk Cheney (you could argue he was the real president). Kamala was invisible. So therefore she was seen as having no real consequential experience. At best she was invisible, at worst she is partially responsible for Biden's perceived failures. Biden was seen as change in 2020. She was seen as the incumbent.

So yes, there were differences. Damn near different eras. Different circumstances. Yes, her being a woman is a factor. But it goes deeper than that. Put it to you this way. Say this election, the DNC runs someone else, and lose, then Trump fukks up for 4 years and we're in 2028 and she runs, then it would be more similar to 2020, because now people are thinking, things weren't that bad in 2023-2024. Trump fukked it all up. Let's try something new. I think she would have won then in my scenario.
can you summarize? i've been debating people too much today and almost about to get off work, don't feel like reading all this right now.
 

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can you summarize? i've been debating people too much today and almost about to get off work, don't feel like reading all this right now.
2020 election was marked by a black swan event (covid), george floyd riots that made international news and half the world being forced to stay home.

2024 election was marked by the Ukraine war, gaza genocide, Biden cognitive decline, and Trump getting shot.

Yes, her being a woman is a factor but it was deeper than that and eventhough Biden and Kamala had similar policies, the context was very different. There is also a difference between Biden running on a theoretical program and Kamala running on a similar program after 4 years of its implementation where she was part of the administration.
 

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She lost because the people did not pick her to run. Anybody man or woman would be hard pressed to win with only 100 days to run a campaign. Trump has been running for President for three consecutive terms.

Getting handed the nomination and being handcuffed to Biden is a hard sell.


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2020 election was marked by a black swan event (covid), george floyd riots that made international news and half the world being forced to stay home.

2024 election was marked by the Ukraine war, gaza genocide, Biden cognitive decline, and Trump getting shot.

Yes, her being a woman is a factor but it was deeper than that and eventhough Biden and Kamala had similar policies, the context was very different. There is also a difference between Biden running on a theoretical program and Kamala running on a similar program after 4 years of its implementation where she was part of the administration.
i don't think any of these things swayed the election, Because trump still received the same number of votes as he did last time. Nobody switched sides during this due to current events. Literally everybody that voted, voted the exact same way they did last election. Kamala just wasn't a candidate that garner enthusiasm for people to get to polls for her even if they still didn't want to vote for him. I feel like if Gaza or the economy was factor, more people would have switched sides. Not just more dems staying home.
 

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i don't think any of these things swayed the election, Because trump still received the same number of votes as he did last time. Nobody switched sides during this due to current events. Literally everybody that voted, voted the exact same way they did last election. Kamala just wasn't a candidate that garner enthusiasm for people to get to polls for her even if they still didn't want to vote for him. I feel like if Gaza or the economy was factor, more people would have switched sides. Not just more dems staying home.
Because she represented the current status quo.
 

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Deflect with a 2016 voting environment, brehs.

You said Latinos didn't vote for Kamala because she's a woman, and I proved that Latinos voted majority for the last woman candidate.

Hold this L.

I hope Democrats double down on identity politics in 2028/2032....
 
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