Poll : Did Kamala lose the election because she's a woman?

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Didn’t help, among other reasons

 

[Ozymandeas]

Y’all are completely in another reality if you think her being a woman didn’t play a role in her loss

The funniest part about all of this is even if you feel like she was a terrible candidate, she was infinitely more qualified for the position than the other person.

Stop the cap

People be lying their ass off on here breh.

 

[jerniebert]

Will there ever be a woman president in your estimation?

And will she be a Democrat or Republican?

After this year I'm going with not for a while, but a lot can change over the next 4 years. I'd go with a Democrat over a Republican. To much misogyny on the right, but those demos could change over time. But who the fukk knows. We just elected a convicted felon who was Epstein's closest friend again. I still remember the world going to shyt last time he was president. We all lost a year of our lives in his final year.

 

[Turbulent]

Only difference in this election was her race and gender.
You can't blame Hamas or any thing like that either because the same exact thing happened to Hillary before all that was going on. both more qualified better in dabates, came with actually policies, none of it mattered.
she is like the 20th women to run for president since the 1860s none of them ever win.

There areva lot of differences between the 2020 and 2024 election. Matrer of fact, so much has happened that it feels like it was 8 years ago...

 

[Luke Cage]

There areva lot of differences between the 2020 and 2024 election. Matrer of fact, so much has happened that it feels like it was 8 years ago...

If you name one i will disprove it quickly.

 

[Sauce and Footwork]

There is of course a lot of people who solely not voting for women. Of course. Some not black folks period…But they lost because she was not likable . Black people didn’t even really fukk with her at large. Not blaming us for her losing, because obviously we were her biggest supporters. But just like Hilary, she wasn’t likable and those reasons go beyond being women. Trump was probably getting elected anyway even if it was someone else. But someone like Californias governor would have been a better choice. People like him and some of his policies

(I voted for Kamala and I didn’t like her either. She just doesn’t come off ginuine.. just like that video of her faking like she on the phone. fukk trump and he is a liar… but a lot of people of all races who voted for him, feel he is a honest person and they like how candid he is when he speaks. They feel like they know him

 

[Doctor Wily]

I wholeheartedly believe that's a large part. Whenever any of the two parties pushes a woman, they don't perform up to the expectations. Nikki Haley got dusted in her home state by Trump this year. Sarah Palin was thought of a bimbo in a bathing suit with guns that didn't know geography. Hilary and Kamala performed better than both, but I've heard women voters say they relied too much on being a women in their campaign. I'm heading towards my 40s and I don't think I'll ever see a woman be voted in as the president of the USA.

Yea you will.

 

[Luke Cage]

There is of course a lot of people who solely not voting for women. Of course. Some not black folks period…But they lost because she was not likable . Black people didn’t even really fukk with her at large. Not blaming us for her losing, because obviously we were her biggest supporters. But just like Hilary, she wasn’t likable and those reasons go beyond being women. Trump was probably getting elected anyway even if it was someone else. But someone like Californias governor would have been a better choice. People like him and some of his policies

(I voted for Kamala and I didn’t like her either. She just doesn’t come off ginuine.. just like that video of her faking like she on the phone. fukk trump and he is a liar… but a lot of people of all races who voted for him, feel he is a honest person and they like how candid he is when he speaks. They feel like they know him

She is unlikable because she is woman.

 

[Sauce and Footwork]

She is unlikable because she is woman.

I acknowledge her being a woman and people not voting for her because of that reason. But I voted for her and didn’t have feelings about her being a woman. Especially with daughters and a wife. I also voted for Hilary…I didn’t like Kamala personality and many others felt that way too. Unless you are calling me a liar.. Things aren’t always one way in life . Some people voted for Trump because they are white supremacist. Some people because they are uneducated, but simply find him funny or interesting. Some voted certain ways because of a certain policy they care most about. I hate Trump and like her more so I voted. But I don’t like either candidate personalities . Not Biden either, but I voted because I vote on policy I believe in and affects my family

 

[the cac mamba]

just to be clear, it's all biden's fault, for seeking the second term and then crashing out. kamala was put in an impossible position. it didn't help that she's an awful politician

but this was the best ticket we could have picked, given the circumstances

 

[Luke Cage]

I acknowledge her being a woman and people not voting for her because of that reason. But I voted for her and didn’t have feelings about her being a woman. Especially with daughters and a wife. I also voted for Hilary…I didn’t like Kamala personality and many others felt that way too. Unless you are calling me a liar.. Things aren’t always one way in life . Some people voted for Trump because they are white supremacist. Some people because they are uneducated, but simply find him funny or interesting. Some voted certain ways because of a certain policy they care most about.

No i'm not calling you a liar.
Just saying that her likability is also affected by her gender. I think it's unconscious behavior. Take two people who behave exactly the same. but one is a woman and one is a man. Despite them having identical behavior, you probably won't like them exactly the same.

This contextual of course but think of this way. A man who sways his hips and acts sassy is less likeable by many people than a woman who sways her hips and acts sassy is.

A woman who is career politician with the accompanying behaviors that come with that is less likeable than a man who is a career politician with all the accompanying behaviors that come with that. (sort of like how female comedians are generally less liked than their male counter parts)

 

[Ski Mask]

A part of it, yeah, at the same time she just got thrown in a race where she had to deal with pro Palestinians supports realizing both parties support Israel, she messed up by trying to appeal to never trumpets alienating those who dislike Cheney and his evil. Then she's just a person who can't ride the fence without it being blatantly annoying.

 

[Sauce and Footwork]

just to be clear, it's all biden's fault for, seeking the second term and then crashing out. kamala was put in an impossible position

but this was the best ticket we could have picked, given the circumstances

Yea I don’t get why people won’t acknowledge this. The first time Kamala ran for president people weren’t really feeling her like that. I acknowledge her being a black woman… but we can just look at how a lot of black women felt about her. They voted for her as I did , but those same women in my personal life never cared for her personally. I would hate to put white folks in front of a black woman. But those 2 people have notorious popularity with democrats. Also people are upset at the country and she is the acting vice president so people will blame her and naturally say let’s do something new. Even if it’s wrong (I voted Kamala )

 

[Sauce and Footwork]

No i'm not calling you a liar.
Just saying that her likability is also affected by her gender. I think its unconsious behavior. Take two people who behave exactly the same. but one is a woman and one is a man. And you won't like them exactly the same.

This contextual of course but think of this way. A man who sways his hips and acts sassy is less likeable by many people than a woman who sways her hips and acts sassy is.
A woman who is career politician with the accompanying behaviors that come with that is less likeable than a man who is a career politician with all the accompanying behaviors that come with that.

Bro I acknowledged in both post that it’s also because she is a woman and a lot of people didn’t vote for her that reason. I just said there are other reasons to. Like people mad at the government for this or that policy or lack of action with whatever pertains to them and says she is the acting vice president and it is partly her fault (I don’t agree, but those are real feelings. A lot of people blame Biden and her. Not sure what we are going back and forth about. I stated twice her being a woman was also a big reason. People can still have opinions about political subjects that doesn’t pertain to gender or race. I’m not religious.. but what if I was super Christian and said I will vote for my president based off of being pro life? (Not me) but Because it affects them. What if someone is a democrat but hates all the LGBT shyt (not me) .. that has nothing to do with her being a woman. I’m in college or went, student loan forgiveness matters.. I personally was very excited for a black female president. Some people because she a woman. Some others based off the policies they think affects they life. Didn’t say anything about which one was the main reason. Don’t get where the disagreement is lol

 

[Turbulent]

If you name one i will disprove it quickly.

2020 election happens in the middle of one of the weirdest black swan event of our lifetime (COVID). We literally thought this was the end of the world at first (march-april). The summer of 2020, Olympics are cancelled, early in the summer, nation wide riots for george floyd, whole world is pointing its finger at the USA. Trump was acting a fool (that part i agree is the same). Then for the rest of the year, a lot of the world was on a curfew. Then an attempted coup in January 2025.

2024, people are outside again, Ukraine war going on, Gaza genocide going on, all under the Biden admin (which she represents in the eyes of a lot of people), Biden looking worst than larry holmes status in the debate so people lost even more trust in mainstream media (which for the most part were heavy in kamala's corner besides fox). Trump surviving an assassination attempt which gained him a lot of clout in his base.

Yes Kamala and Biden had similar programs. But the difference is that in 2020 it was theory. In 2024 it was after 4 years of them applying their policies. People don't care about if he had congress in his pocket in order to do what he wanted. They don't care that part of the prosperity under Trump was thanks to Obama. They look at it like "how was my life from 2017 to 2020 vs how was my life from 2021 to 2024.". They view it as back then there was no war, Russia, Iran, China, North Korea wasn't bold enough to cross lines. Maybe they saw Biden was looking like a mark. And Kamala was part of it all but was invisible.

The most powerful VP in US history was probably dikk Cheney (you could argue he was the real president). Kamala was invisible. So therefore she was seen as having no real consequential experience. At best she was invisible, at worst she is partially responsible for Biden's perceived failures. Biden was seen as change in 2020. She was seen as the incumbent.

So yes, there were differences. Damn near different eras. Different circumstances. Yes, her being a woman is a factor. But it goes deeper than that. Put it to you this way. Say this election, the DNC runs someone else, and lose, then Trump fukks up for 4 years and we're in 2028 and she runs, then it would be more similar to 2020, because now people are thinking, things weren't that bad in 2023-2024. Trump fukked it all up. Let's try something new. I think she would have won then in my scenario.