POLL: Are You Against Black On Black Violence, But Still Listen To Music That Glorifies It?

Yes or No?

  • Yes

    Votes: 42 68.9%
  • No

    Votes: 19 31.1%

  • Total voters
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CrimsonTider

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It goes both ways. If it didn't we wouldn't see suburbs dudes coming from good homes trying to emulate hood dudes. Rap has had a profound impact on how black people perceive themselves and the world around them. It started off as an expression of the conditions created from the crack era. Since that time it has become more and more commodified to the point where it appears to be one big marketing ploy for brand names and the black struggle as a form of entertainment.
It’s the same as it’s always been

entertainment
 

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Doesn't matter.

it music can influence behavior, how come this never happens in the opposite direction? People ain't falling in love because they listen to jodeci
Music is music, if you kill someone because of a song, you didn't kill him because of a song, you are just a psychopath with an excuse.

This is like saying that Mafia movies are making italians kill each other.
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It’s the same as it’s always been

entertainment

Yes and entertainment influences culture and provides context for the world around us. It shapes our opinion and our worldview. Why do you think so much effort is put into propaganda. The Nazi's used propaganda to desensitize hatred towards Jews. The Birth of a Nation caused a resurgence of the KKK. Fox News has almost an entire nation rejecting basic science. A radio show incited Rwandan people to commit genocide against each other. Etc etc. There are countless examples from history and our current era of how mass media (which includes entertainment) influences large segments of people.

Now those are some pretty extreme examples but they exemplify the power of media and how it can drive people to do and think pretty wacky things. I am not saying there is some nefarious campaign to condition black people via rap but there are some very disturbing parallels.

If you're listening to songs about killing black people over and over its going to change your brain chemistry and influence how you experience the world. I think many of us don't realize just how malleable the human mind is.
 

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Yes and entertainment influences culture and provides context for the world around us. It shapes our opinion and our worldview. Why do you think so much effort is put into propaganda. The Nazi's used propaganda to desensitize hatred towards Jews. The Birth of a Nation caused a resurgence of the KKK. Fox New has almost an entire natiom rejecting basic science. A radio show incited Rwandan people to commit genocide against each other. Etc etc.

Now those are some pretty extreme examples but they exemplify the power of media and how it can drive people to the unspeakable. I am not saying there is some nefarious campaign to condition black people via rap but there are some very disturbing parallels.

If you're listening to songs about killing black people over and over its going to change your brain chemistry and influence how you experience the world. I think many of us don't realize just how malleable the human mind is.
Why didn’t it change your brain chemistry?
 
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Rap went from being a product of the environment to shaping the environment. Its lost all of its original creativity and is now just one huge scheme that markets black death and obsessive materialism.

Don’t forget drugs, and sex.

I love the beats, but the lyrics are abysmal. Don’t get me started on videos.
 

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Rap influences the culture and the culture influences rap.
The streets influence everything first. This chit rappers rap about is really happening and been happening since forever. When epmd and public enemy was the soundtrack niccas was still out selling dope and shooting people.
 

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Why didn’t it change your brain chemistry?

It did for while but I exposed myself to different things in life. There was a time in my life when I thought hitting licks was something to be proud of. I am not saying the mindset I had was entirely influenced by rap but it definitely played a factor.
 

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Doesn't matter.

it music can influence behavior, how come this never happens in the opposite direction? People ain't falling in love because they listen to jodeci

This

eh, Jodeci made me believe in love and the promise that it gives, and ive been happily married going on 14 years now. This new generation seems to have given up on the concept of love (if we’re going off what is presented on the internet at least)
 

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Rap went from being a product of the environment to shaping the environment. Its lost all of its original creativity and is now just one huge scheme that markets black death and obsessive materialism.


This is true. Also a byproduct of the influence media and entertainment has on American culture.
 

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The streets influence everything first. This chit rappers rap about is really happening and been happening since forever. When epmd and public enemy was the soundtrack niccas was still out selling dope and shooting people.

Again I agree. All entertainment starts as an expression of real life until real life starts emulating entertainment. I am not even saying that the solution is eradicating all rap. At the end of the day we have to change the conditions that it spawned from in the first place. However, I think its important to take into account how our minds are being manipulated my this genre of music. Again, it provides context about the world we experience and inhibits us from imagining different ways to contextualize our shared experience.
 

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Again I agree. All entertainment starts as an expression of real life until real life starts emulating entertainment. I am not even saying that the solution is eradicating all rap. At the end of the day we have to change the conditions that it spawned from in the first place. However, I think its important to take into account how our minds are being manipulated my this genre of music. Again, it provides context about the world we experience and inhibits us from imagining different ways to contextualize our shared experience.
That’s the only thing that matter. Until the conditions in our environments change ain’t nothing going to change. That’s a whole different conversation.


IMO The people who’s mind is being manipulated by music are usually the ones that’s not actually from these places where the chit goes down at. If you from there and out in the streets you been seeing plenty of negative influences right there in real life. They don’t need no song.
 

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Oh i know that. I'm asking is other media safe? Look at all the gang related shows that are the top black shows. Shouldn't we consider those as well?
I think it depends on how much you consume it. You can’t play basketball and watch a movie at the same time. Music becomes the soundtrack of your life without having to make any special accommodations. Other media, you’d have to be addicted to that form of entertainment for it to have the same effect. Like nerds who sit around all day watching anime whose lives revolve around it…. Very different than someone who just watches it a couple hours per week
 

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I’m 25, but I’ve been knowing this for years now. Even as a teenager I’ve never felt the urge to do something dangerous just because I’ve seen/heard it on tv, videos games, music etc.

Exactly. The main problem is accountability. People will blame everyone else except for the terrible parenting in some homes.
 

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nikkas can deflect, but how you can decry ignorance and violence in places like chicago, yet bump nikkas like king von who bragged about committing murder on his songs, durk, those jacksonville rappers, etc....

Man i wish someone would make a parody with a cop rapping about killing their opps(us). I wonder if we would see the disrespect then.
 

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*The following post is just a gauge for you to use in deciding your vote. This thread is just a poll thread not a discussion, no actual replies are necessary.

Many of us are heartbroken at the stories of children being killed in McDonald’s drive-thrus by hood nikka culture due to senseless hood nikka violence.

Or stories like the 3 year old killed last year when dudes fired 150+ shots at a house here in Charlotte.

How many times have you found yourself disturbed by Black on Black violence, while simultaneously listening to/rapping along with that song that be like “yea you know who took that sh*t from you come get back in blood burr burr”?(just an example song but this question applies to any rap song that glorifies killing Black ppl).

Please answer with your Vote.

Sure do. Because

1. I can separate hyperbole from reality.
2. I'm aware that too much of anything is toxic.
3. I'd never play some tracks around my (future) kids.


I'm against War, but I love War films.
I'm against doing hard drugs, but Requiem For a Dream is an amazing movie.

People's inability to separate fiction from reality is a failure of that reality, not the fiction that resides in it.
 
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