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There are lunatics out there but even a lunatic has struggle from what hes done. The measure of success is in your works of good and your worship of GOD:ufdup: Your ability to overcome your vices that demonically effect friends and ask for forgiveness for the wrong you've done. Lastly your ability to do all of these things while influencing the lost in the right direction, to do the same.

Where does this begin, the fear of GOD whos psychology is perfect and shows us that filth begets filth and the loss of ones soul not being worth the a brief gain. because sometimes evil is not punished but the seeds of evil are. Justice is always served, friend.

Ultimately, when the lights go out friend, its only going to be you and God on that day when he judges your life and none of the people who did wrong and succeeded will be there but hopefully you'll be there, in heaven that is. :umad:

Its so angelic, friend. :blessed:
you dont have to be a lunatic to not care. you just have to have strong reasons not to care. lots of people are bigots and have been trained to not care about what happens to a particular group.

that measure of success is predicated on stuff from a book of dubious origin. nobody has any objective reason to choose that book over any of the others i mentioned in a previous post. so again, we are back at a point where our measures of success are loose when we focus on the stuff you want us to focus on. i have to make too many serious leaps in logic to do what you do.
 

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you dont have to be a lunatic to not care. you just have to have strong reasons not to care. lots of people are bigots and have been trained to not care about what happens to a particular group.

that measure of success is predicated on stuff from a book of dubious origin. nobody has any objective reason to choose that book over any of the others i mentioned in a previous post. so again, we are back at a point where our measures of success are loose when we focus on the stuff you want us to focus on. i have to make too many serious leaps in logic to do what you do.

Thats where you're back to. I have my measure and it comes from the Bible. Yours comes from somewhere else. Focusing on the things God wants us to focus on are better than what you want us to focus on because Gods way creates pure utopia.
 

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so your stance is more about collective impact than any given individual's life? this is long, so you can just skim it...

if that is the case, then personal sinning should not be important enough to have divine morality attached to it. people think "impure thoughts", covet things, have beef with their parents and there is little to no impact on society. so if somebody has disrespect for his parents, but that disrespect does not harm society, should god care one way or the other?
I believe in what Rza is saying about individuals because from hot dense state until now the balance of everything is what keeps things in line and functioning. The 100 billion nerve cells that constantly interact with each other to allow me to type this message is nothing compared to what the universe went through in a split second to create the environment that would eventually evolve into something that would allow our atmosphere, hydrosphere, geosphere, biosphere, and heliosphere to work together perfectly. :ohlawd: If we understood these things, there really wouldn't even be a debate about how humans are negatively affecting the Earth.

Plainly put - if we all made slightly devilish moves on July 2, 2013, the world would be fukked. We need that balance. It's ok to think, damn I wanna smash dudes wife. That should be avoided, but it doesn't make you a horrible person if ur mind takes you there. We don't even know how our consciousness or subconsciousness works - to be held accountable for every single thought.

faith can help or hurt. some people leave things up to chance when they should have been making preparations, and ultimately suffer for it. typically, those who make preperations for something will improve their chances for success. also, successful dumb people might have other qualities that actually helped them, charisma, persistence, nepotism, or just weak competition.technology has made thousands of millionares out of otherwise dumb people since we need singers and athletes to entertain us, and technology helps scale the entertainment business enough to sustain high salaries.

but i agree, some smart folks will talk themselves out of great opportunities because their sensible assessment for potential failure turns into some neurotic pathology that causes them to see disaster and failure too much. but also, the other side of the "lucky dumb millionaire athlete" coin is true for smart people - sometimes you are knowledgable about something that is not very marketable. teachers should be paid more, scientists never should have a problem getting funding in the richest planet in human history, yet that is reality.
Faith can only help.. it's can't hurt. Considering the first people on the planet who taught us about faith were all about action - one can only conclude that actionless faith is simply part of the manipulation of the devil. It's the same way black slaves were forced to learn fake Christianity and were given the tools that will allow a fam of 7 white people to control 150 Slaves. I get a feeling when I'm doing something wrong and when something might be a selfish or demonic move - and when I still go for it I can expect the negative results... or the positive results with the guilt. If I'm positive then I make a sales call the sales call will go better. If I do something as simple as stand up and smile while I'm dialing the phone then the shyt has a better chance. Jesus tried to lay out a plan, but the plan was manipulated. He walked on Water and that's the only thing people know. They ignore the point. The point is that He called out to Peter (the calling is important because we all have purpose), Peter walked on the water without giving two fukks, Then he starting having doubt. All that shyt and everything in the Qur'an is important. Even things such as Jesus hanging out with hoes, and being tempted by the devil are important.

on tesla, im sure lots of folks with mutually exclusive gods think like this, and use their supposedly god given thoughts to oppose each other. i remember that evangelical american general that was caught telling his troops that their god was better than allah and they would use that to help them kill more islamic combatants. that might be some kind of cosmic balance, but disturbing as hell, LOL. maybe both the evangelical god and allah exist at the same time and let people go against each other like a big game of chess, maybe one of them is wrong and only one god is real and the other guy is just talking to himself, maybe they are both wrong and just interpreting things to justify their behavior...
The view from the Christian General who wants to evoke God to kill Muslims is also the same demon that would justify the rape and murder of Native Americans. That isn't how Christianity was formed, it's not what Jesus preached... He's just wrong. He's wrong because he's demonic.. The Quran and Bible claim that the Devil is the great Manipulator. There might not even be a hell or devil - but metaphorically speaking this statement is correct. Think about everything wrong with this world -- It is clearly made possible through manipulation and not violence, money, or power. The media of every nation uses propaganda because it's the only thing that can combat goodness. Muslims consider America the great Satan, not in a literal sense but in the sense that it keeps it's citizens numb and too preoccupied to be concerned about financial slavery and destruction in the world. On the flip side the Islamic Nations on Earth are addressed in one of the most important sections of the Qur'an because hypocrites are worse than devils in the grand scheme of things.

what rza said sounds nice. i have no idea how true it is, but i like it.
We are all connected like water, but like water humans spawn life (and consciousness) and we can break things down, destroy, and end life. Destruction usually leads to creation. You first destroy the Earth to plant seeds.. it spawns life. You break down cells to multiple the cells and grow life. You destroy the earths foundations to erect buildings. Even the best of humans contain some bad. Righteousness and religion only aims to keep evilness at 1/3- and neutrality and good shyt the other 2/3. The world seems to be heading toward 50% evil, which is why religious muthfakas are beating this drum and dead horse about this and that are sooo demonic. We know that the universe and our planet are ‘fine-tuned' for life. The stats on the tuning are amazing and close to impossible. More so than other animals, humans use social customs and behaviors to determine how the future is shaped. If you believe that God is a made up thing then that's fine. But it's immature and narrow-minded to actually believe we've created it and maintained it for reasons outside of evolutionary necessity. We didn't create it to make excuses for things we can't explain; a simple reading of the Bible can let you know that it does much more than that. Religion has went through the same process as evolution spawning different types and more stable and adaptable philosophies. We aren't the biologically dumbest of all organisms, we are the most advanced and most adapted for our situations.. and religion has been very important for the advancement of the human race. So I of course I'm a believer in spirituality and all that... but even if I wasn't I wouldn't advocate for a world void of something that has been so critical to our advancement.
 

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Thats where you're back to. I have my measure and it comes from the Bible. Yours comes from somewhere else. Focusing on the things God wants us to focus on are better than what you want us to focus on because Gods way creates pure utopia.

that's like somebody focusing on their adherance to climate change as further proof of climate change. it is illogical, but if that works for you, that's cool.
 

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I believe in what Rza is saying about individuals because from hot dense state until now the balance of everything is what keeps things in line and functioning. The 100 billion nerve cells that constantly interact with each other to allow me to type this message is nothing compared to what the universe went through in a split second to create the environment that would eventually evolve into something that would allow our atmosphere, hydrosphere, geosphere, biosphere, and heliosphere to work together perfectly. :ohlawd: If we understood these things, there really wouldn't even be a debate about how humans are negatively affecting the Earth.

Plainly put - if we all made slightly devilish moves on July 2, 2013, the world would be fukked. We need that balance. It's ok to think, damn I wanna smash dudes wife. That should be avoided, but it doesn't make you a horrible person if ur mind takes you there. We don't even know how our consciousness or subconsciousness works - to be held accountable for every single thought.


Faith can only help.. it's can't hurt. Considering the first people on the planet who taught us about faith were all about action - one can only conclude that actionless faith is simply part of the manipulation of the devil. It's the same way black slaves were forced to learn fake Christianity and were given the tools that will allow a fam of 7 white people to control 150 Slaves. I get a feeling when I'm doing something wrong and when something might be a selfish or demonic move - and when I still go for it I can expect the negative results... or the positive results with the guilt. If I'm positive then I make a sales call the sales call will go better. If I do something as simple as stand up and smile while I'm dialing the phone then the shyt has a better chance. Jesus tried to lay out a plan, but the plan was manipulated. He walked on Water and that's the only thing people know. They ignore the point. The point is that He called out to Peter (the calling is important because we all have purpose), Peter walked on the water without giving two fukks, Then he starting having doubt. All that shyt and everything in the Qur'an is important. Even things such as Jesus hanging out with hoes, and being tempted by the devil are important.


The view from the Christian General who wants to evoke God to kill Muslims is also the same demon that would justify the rape and murder of Native Americans. That isn't how Christianity was formed, it's not what Jesus preached... He's just wrong. He's wrong because he's demonic.. The Quran and Bible claim that the Devil is the great Manipulator. There might not even be a hell or devil - but metaphorically speaking this statement is correct. Think about everything wrong with this world -- It is clearly made possible through manipulation and not violence, money, or power. The media of every nation uses propaganda because it's the only thing that can combat goodness. Muslims consider America the great Satan, not in a literal sense but in the sense that it keeps it's citizens numb and too preoccupied to be concerned about financial slavery and destruction in the world. On the flip side the Islamic Nations on Earth are addressed in one of the most important sections of the Qur'an because hypocrites are worse than devils in the grand scheme of things.


We are all connected like water, but like water humans spawn life (and consciousness) and we can break things down, destroy, and end life. Destruction usually leads to creation. You first destroy the Earth to plant seeds.. it spawns life. You break down cells to multiple the cells and grow life. You destroy the earths foundations to erect buildings. Even the best of humans contain some bad. Righteousness and religion only aims to keep evilness at 1/3- and neutrality and good shyt the other 2/3. The world seems to be heading toward 50% evil, which is why religious muthfakas are beating this drum and dead horse about this and that are sooo demonic. We know that the universe and our planet are ‘fine-tuned' for life. The stats on the tuning are amazing and close to impossible. More so than other animals, humans use social customs and behaviors to determine how the future is shaped. If you believe that God is a made up thing then that's fine. But it's immature and narrow-minded to actually believe we've created it and maintained it for reasons outside of evolutionary necessity. We didn't create it to make excuses for things we can't explain; a simple reading of the Bible can let you know that it does much more than that. Religion has went through the same process as evolution spawning different types and more stable and adaptable philosophies. We aren't the biologically dumbest of all organisms, we are the most advanced and most adapted for our situations.. and religion has been very important for the advancement of the human race. So I of course I'm a believer in spirituality and all that... but even if I wasn't I wouldn't advocate for a world void of something that has been so critical to our advancement.

i cant really see how any of the ten commandments pertain to the health of the earth, though. those simply seem to be a combination of intersocial ethics to keep the hebrews as a cohesive entity. they may have been capable of keeping the hebrews together, but the earth or the universe are not impacted.

your comments on faith seem to be falling under the "no true scottsman" fallacy. when people's faith hurts them, it's not true faith, it's just demonic. when it helps them then it's faith. you can always get the answers you want depending on your point of view...

christianity was formed by a group of people who's god comanded them to destroy other nations and allowed them to take their women and children as property. jesus shows up when his people had already fallen off. his ways fit that of somebody on the bottom. before him, his people were stronger and had a god that advocated strong actions against others. when you look at the long view of both old and new testatment, that general would fit right along with an old testament way of thinking.

Cargo cult - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
we know that people have used religion to inaccurately explain phenomena they dont understand. whether island people worshipping americans is evolutionarily necessary or not, i would hope we have moved beyond this kind of behavior. im just the kind of persont that wants to know what is absolutely true. when i see people valuing faith over their own reasoning capabilities, i see these cargo cult people. it's scary.
 

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i cant really see how any of the ten commandments pertain to the health of the earth, though. those simply seem to be a combination of intersocial ethics to keep the hebrews as a cohesive entity. they may have been capable of keeping the hebrews together, but the earth or the universe are not impacted.

your comments on faith seem to be falling under the "no true scottsman" fallacy. when people's faith hurts them, it's not true faith, it's just demonic. when it helps them then it's faith. you can always get the answers you want depending on your point of view...

christianity was formed by a group of people who's god comanded them to destroy other nations and allowed them to take their women and children as property. jesus shows up when his people had already fallen off. his ways fit that of somebody on the bottom. before him, his people were stronger and had a god that advocated strong actions against others. when you look at the long view of both old and new testatment, that general would fit right along with an old testament way of thinking.

Cargo cult - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
we know that people have used religion to inaccurately explain phenomena they dont understand. whether island people worshipping americans is evolutionarily necessary or not, i would hope we have moved beyond this kind of behavior. im just the kind of persont that wants to know what is absolutely true. when i see people valuing faith over their own reasoning capabilities, i see these cargo cult people. it's scary.

fair enough.

But about Jesus... that's why he was a prophet. IF those things weren't going on and people already knew the knowledge , then it wouldn't have been necessary for him to lead the movement.

About faith: If it's real faith, regardless of the result- then it's faith. I was just saying you are better off with faith. Faith doesn't guarantee that you won't walk outside to visit your girlfriend.. and get jumped and robbed. Like I said there is evil in this world.

About Cargo Cult- This isn't something that rational people do. Some say the very belief in religion means that the person is irrational.. regardless if that person is rational in every other aspect in life. So if someone comes along and says the above quote by Nikola Tesla.. then he's an idiot.. but they will ignore the great things that person has done. Or ignore the fact that nearly every world leader and every person who advances our world believe in something other than inanimate matter in the universe. I've met geniuses in my line of work. Some are atheist, but them being atheist isn't what made them intelligent, nor is it a characteristic of their rationality. I say the Cargo thing is just ignorance, but ignorance curable overtime. Nothing is scary about that way of thinking because we have made it this far .. and for most of history most scientist and technology gurus have been religious. Most people in biology now aren't religious, but the vast majority of people with a limited scientific understanding learned in college aren't atheist.

Also about Jesus' timing - maybe he came when some of his people weren't at the bottom.. but he was never slow to drop ill lines about camels, needles, and wealth, and power... everything he said was for a reason.
 

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fair enough.

But about Jesus... that's why he was a prophet. IF those things weren't going on and people already knew the knowledge , then it wouldn't have been necessary for him to lead the movement.

About faith: If it's real faith, regardless of the result- then it's faith. I was just saying you are better off with faith. Faith doesn't guarantee that you won't walk outside to visit your girlfriend.. and get jumped and robbed. Like I said there is evil in this world.

About Cargo Cult- This isn't something that rational people do. Some say the very belief in religion means that the person is irrational.. regardless if that person is rational in every other aspect in life. So if someone comes along and says the above quote by Nikola Tesla.. then he's an idiot.. but they will ignore the great things that person has done. Or ignore the fact that nearly every world leader and every person who advances our world believe in something other than inanimate matter in the universe. I've met geniuses in my line of work. Some are atheist, but them being atheist isn't what made them intelligent, nor is it a characteristic of their rationality. I say the Cargo thing is just ignorance, but ignorance curable overtime. Nothing is scary about that way of thinking because we have made it this far .. and for most of history most scientist and technology gurus have been religious. Most people in biology now aren't religious, but the vast majority of people with a limited scientific understanding learned in college aren't atheist.

Also about Jesus' timing - maybe he came when some of his people weren't at the bottom.. but he was never slow to drop ill lines about camels, needles, and wealth, and power... everything he said was for a reason.
those cargo cults are not irrational in respect to the level of development their society is in. any group of stone age people attempting to understand things outside their frame of reference will make some very inaccurate observations.

the people that wrote the old testament were bronze age, not a huge leap over stone age. they lived in a time of superstition and miniscule scientific knowledge

tesla is not an idiot, but his comments dont get more credible simply because of who he is. in the 21st century we now know that it is a good idea to test the theory itself, and not merely take everything we are told based on authority. scientists can screw up, scientists can get lazy, be superstitious, or have an agenda. that's why they need to be peer reviewed...

the cargo cult thing is scary because we make strong actions based on faith, sometimes. we hate people based on morals and rules with authority by faith alone. we will kill others based on this. we will impede others' freedom on faith. the cargo cults should be a lesson to everyone that if you cant thoroughly explain something in an objective way, you might be jumping out of the window over some nonsense.
 

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How often do these cult groups end up being at the forefront of major movements. At best they become a mafia and work for the black elite.
 
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