PNB Rock shot and killed in Los Angeles (R.I.P PNB Rock) Update: Suspects in custody

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Exactly. We all have our contribution to this fukkery

I think blaming old white record execs is becoming archaic tho. Above all else these labels are about making money and wouldn't support anything that didn't have massive demand. It's easy to point the finger at the distributors but nikkas get quiet when it's time to address the amount of people that devour this content

And now with social media/YouTube you have a new drill rapper every week, whether their songs got them poppin in their neighborhood or nationwide. Ain't no labels crafting these rappers. All labels do these days is look for who already has a following

Again it's easy to say the labels are leading nikkas to water, but the truth is by the time they get to the water nikkas down there having a pool party:manny:

Not only that, folks would much rather point da finger at da distributors or whomever/whatever else than to hold these rap nikkas accountable as well as da listeners themselves. Cause as you said, it ain't just suburban peckerwoods that enjoy that shyt either.
 

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A lot of nikkas exposing how naive they are

Rap really got nikkas heads fukked up thinking just because a nikka ain't screaming at the the top of their lungs shyt ain't that serious

Everything about that nikkas demeanor said he was dead serious about everything he was saying. It's hard to put into words but when you've been around or are hip to certain shyt you can easily see when shyt is more serious than it sounds


There are plenty of situations where shyt "sounded cordial" right before a nikka got jumped, robbed, or killed
That's how it's supposed to be
 

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Rappers are so revered nobody wants to say anything bad about them but a lot of rappers are IDIOTS

The more I learn about this PNB case the dumber it sounds

Being a rapper is a catch 22 because the reckless, stupid shyt that gets nikkas famous is the same reckless, stupid shyt that gets them killed. This goes all the way back to Pac.

A rapper talkin his shyt on record like "I was in Roscoe's with 100k in jewelry on, eating waffles and wings with my white S550 outside" gets nikkas hype when it sounds good, but when you look at it objectively that shyt is comically stupid. Nikka you was doing what?:pachaha:

Nikka I laugh in disbelief every time I think of that Benny situation:mjlol: A nikka walking around one of the most hood Walmarts in Houston wearing expensive jewelry because WHY? Nikka what the fukk are you doing?

Rap is a trap because stupidity is your bread and butter, and you're making the LEAST money off your stupidity

This.

Even xxxtentacion was on some dummy shyt. Completely avoidable

Riding around in an i8 with a rucksack filled with money on the passenger seat. :pachaha: Was it $20k or $50k?

He ran into some real demons... A fukked up dude from a dysfunctional and criminal family

Some are truly tragic but a lot of rapper deaths can be avoided
 

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A lot of nikkas exposing how naive they are

Rap really got nikkas heads fukked up thinking just because a nikka ain't screaming at the the top of their lungs shyt ain't that serious

Everything about that nikkas demeanor said he was dead serious about everything he was saying. It's hard to put into words but when you've been around or are hip to certain shyt you can easily see when shyt is more serious than it sounds

There are plenty of situations where shyt "sounded cordial" right before a nikka got jumped, robbed, or killed
Raymond Washington was having a cordial conversation with brehs in a car in front of his home before they blasted him.
 

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Budden's solution to the problem is to act like it doesn't exist :russ:

budden is a fake piece of shyt…he not only watched the ak video but discussed the content of it at length on his own podcast…he’s essentially taking a sanctimonious approach but STILL discussing what happened bcuz he knows ppl want to hear about it in some form/fashion…the one thing he brought up I do agree with tho is highlighting shorty’s IG post but it came out on the news anyway and ak does serve as a hip hop media outlet for better or for worse…still tho as a direct part of the rap community, he could’ve shown a little better judgment there
 
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After processing what may have transpired in this situation, the Cali posters on the board are correct. As much as I would like to think we should be able to move freely as this is America, that simply isn’t the case, especially being young and black in this country.

Little over ten years ago I used to party out in the west a lot on holiday weekends. I’d start in LA, go to Vegas and come back to LA to end things and fly back East. The majority of times I would be solo at the pool parties, hotel bars, house parties and nightclubs. In my opinion, LA is no different than any other global city where gangsters have to rule of the land.

I remember being at the Standard one year in DTLA and a breh from Ft. Greene was working security recognized that I wasn’t from there by the clothes and watch that i had on at the time and in short schooled me on how to move and what to watch for shyt with the dudes and women. He warned that either they will try to befriend you or send women at you but either way move right.

Personally speaking, if I see another Breh shining and I like his style (pause) ill give props and keep it pushing but everyone doesn’t carry water the same way. I think relieving him of his personal belongings would have been a good enough lesson but sometimes it’s the other way and sadly enough that’s the way this went down.

Long story short, RIP to PNB Rock but Cali nikkas is right. Don’t come to their city, they can’t protect you. If you choose otherwise then you are at your own risk. Watching the video with him discussing how many times he was pressed there, it appears that it was only a matter of time before they caught up with him. Why he chose to stay is puzzling to me but I would have definitely left if I had to be doing extra shyt like taking my lady instagram away etc.
 

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I get what you’re saying but the 94 crime bill isn’t as black and white as most make it seem. Unfortunately A LOT of black people also backed the bill. I lost family members because of the crack epidemic from drugs and banging so on one hand I get it.
There's a larger context to black support of the crime bill

The Civil Rights generation sold out subsequent generations which led to what we have now. Black folks took the first opportunity they could to live around and spend money with white people. The communities they left, for lack of even more resources, got worse


Poverty rises, violence rises.

THEN crack hits :francis:

That same Civil Rights generation that high tailed it away from black people at the first opportunity are all of a sudden shocked that the communities they abandoned to spend their money on bullshyt are apocalyptic wastelands

Civil Rights generation that left, along with those stuck in these communities because they couldn't leave, beg the government to do something about all this crime, which admittedly had reached heinous levels

Then Crime Bill :francis:

Thats the problem with black folks running to the government to solve issues we need to fix ourselves. Instead of building up our communities to reconstruction era levels of independence, nikkas asked the government to do something about a mess they refused to acknowledge making and the result was entire generations of black people lost to a bill that lacked nuance of the core issues.

This all ties directly into hip hop and the apathy of the youth that feel naked and directionless because they came into this world with NOTHING because the previous generations left them NOTHING. This is a large part of the resentment of old nikkas hip hop is known for

It's very easy to ignore all this and just say "MAN LOCK THEM SAVAGE NIKKAS UP:damn:" tho.

Once again it comes down to nobody wanting to take accountability for their role in the bullshyt
 
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I get what you’re saying but the 94 crime bill isn’t as black and white as most make it seem. Unfortunately A LOT of black people also backed the bill. I lost family members because of the crack epidemic from drugs and banging so on one hand I get it.

Two things can be true at once. With law that is literally the case. Bill never really said the bill was “shytty” specifically he said it helped spearhead mass incarceration that was occurring and many economists, criminologists, and sociologist “moderately” pinpoint the 8 billion dollars incentives to state prisons as the reason.

But…….. the mass incarceration of black people was heading that way during the 70s snd 80s strictly due to the racial and bias justice system African Americans face in the country because of the hard on crime wave of politics republicans and democrats were pushing.

He also said, during the time you’re suggesting, it help lower crime. It “modestly” did. But many economists, criminologists, and sociologists pinpoint increases employment, better policing methods, an aging of the population, and lastly growth in income and inflation as the reason.

Also you have to understand why he said both these things. 1. He was pandering for votes for Hillary not out of the kindness of his heart. 2. He also later during 2016 changed his position and explained his reasoning why he did it. So once again you can’t simplify it by any means.

But unfortunately we maybe headed toward something seriously worse!!! I don’t know the answer for the violence that’s occurring. Having worked with young boys by mentoring them I just think our mind state has to change first. Just look at the posts in this thread.

We not only celebrate negativity and ignorance too much, we allow it to control our lives.
We’re not headed to something worse. We are headed towards it being damn near impossible to get bail for a violent crime and ending all the early release good behavior stuff

Repeat offenders are the problem


This guy what out on bail awaiting a murder trial and killed a 83 year old man
 

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That shyt never made sense to me and I will never agree with it, and to hear ppl in Illinois say this is a win for Black ppl, is just:snoop:
Initially, it was for people who did petty crimes but had to stay in jail because they couldn't afford bail. I get THAT but the way they responded is ludicrous
 
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