Playstation 5 Pro is a Powerhouse

[The Devil's Advocate]

Look at this cornball brother.. Deleted most of the quote which said I would suspect you need a 3080 to run it... Then laughs at the piece that makes it look like I said something else

Then the nikka with the actual info comes through and says you need a $1500-2000 to do exactly what I just said... Which would be 4-6 PS5s

 

[daze23]

I feel pro consoles show that we need shorter gens . consoles should release every 6 years because technology moves quickly

this last gen had a long cross-gen period, and the new consoles still sold well. I think they can have shorter 'generations' if they're not quick to cut off last gen players

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

OK. Right now you'd need an AMD RX 7900 XTX + 5800X3D to play God Of War 4k/120fps natively using Ultra settings ($1500-$2000 PC build). An RTX 3070ti can do 4K/50fps native and reach 4k60fps using DLSS, but definitely ain't doing no 4k/120fps. To put this into context, PS5 runs God of War @4k/60 CBR (Checkerboard rendering) That's definitely not native. The PS5 also runs God of War Ragnarok @ 4k/30fps (Native) and 4k/60fps with dynamic scaling (1440p-2016p) This is all according to Digital Foundry (Videos are bookmarked).



The GPU equivalent to what's in a PS5 is an RX 6600XT with extra vram (16gb instead of 8gb). From what I'm hearing regarding the PS5 Pro, its GPU should be the equivalent of an RX 7700XT (This is what is impressing people), but with the same CPU from the regular PS5. That GPU/CPU combo ain't doing 4k/120fps native for AAA games. The old CPU will be a bottleneck.

Have you tried hooking up your son's PC to the same 4k TV that you use to play PS5 games? I promise you, you'll be shocked how much better your son's 3070ti rig compares to your PS5 playing the same games. PS5 games aren't the same as a PC game using Ultra settings. Here is comparison of God of War on PS5 vs PC using Ultra settings. There's about a 10% performance difference between a 3070ti and a 7700XT. If your son's PC has a much better CPU, then his system should give the PS5 Pro a run for its money.

Thank you brother... That's the info I needed. The googles was pretty much 90% of people saying you need such and such or else!!! My son wasn't too pressed about it so I just got him some other stuff.

But yea.. Seeing how the ps5 is doing a whole bunch of upscaling, they are basically cheating. And then telling the world, hey we bout to give you even better, but what they actually going to give you is just what they told you they gave you last time. But now it's gonna be native and not upscaled. But really they won't even do that for all games cause ain't no way

I appreciate the lesson

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I feel pro consoles show that we need shorter gens . consoles should release every 6 years because technology moves quickly

this last gen had a long cross-gen period, and the new consoles still sold well. I think they can have shorter 'generations' if they're not quick to cut off last gen players

They need to quit calling them “generations”

Just release new hardware when it makes sense and let the devs decide what hardware they want to support.

The whole idea of console “generations” is some old ass shyt

We have not had clearly defined generations since PS360

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Thank you brother... That's the info I needed. The googles was pretty much 90% of people saying you need such and such or else!!! My son wasn't too pressed about it so I just got him some other stuff.

But yea.. Seeing how the ps5 is doing a whole bunch of upscaling, they are basically cheating. And then telling the world, hey we bout to give you even better, but what they actually going to give you is just what they told you they gave you last time. But now it's gonna be native and not upscaled. But really they won't even do that for all games cause ain't no way

I appreciate the lesson

It’s not even gonna be native still. It’s just gonna be upscaled “better”

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

They need to quit calling them “generations”

Just release new hardware when it makes sense and let the devs decide what hardware they want to support.

The whole idea of console “generations” is some old ass shyt

We have not had clearly defined generations since PS360

To be fair, the companies never call them generations.. The public did

Mainly because when one company released a new system, so was every other company, right around the same time. But if they released them whenever new tech came out, or random benchmark times, nobody would have ever started naming them by generation

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

It’s not even gonna be native still. It’s just gonna be upscaled “better”

Let me revert back to "I'll buy one when I'm impressed" if it wasn't for GT7, Sony would have already fukked me on PSVR 2... I'm not trusting that shyt again

 

[daze23]

Look at this cornball brother.. Deleted most of the quote which said I would suspect you need a 3080 to run it... Then laughs at the piece that makes it look like I said something else

Then the nikka with the actual info comes through and says you need a $1500-2000 to do exactly what I just said... Which would be 4-6 PS5s

you were talking about "native" 4k in response to the claims about Sony's PSSR upscaler. "native" means no upscaling

native 4k at 120hz is a tall task for any GPU including the 4090. and it requires the rest of the system to be top notch. it's not happening with this Pro console

 

[MeachTheMonster]

To be fair, the companies never call them generations.. The public did

Mainly because when one company released a new system, so was every other company, right around the same time. But if they released them whenever new tech came out, or random benchmark times, nobody would have ever started naming them by generation

'We believe in generations:' PlayStation argues cross-gen games risk stifling innovation

"In many cases, we can't take everybody with us from previous consoles into [a next-generation experience]. You need new hardware, you need new devices to experience what these developers want you to experience."

www.gamedeveloper.com

Hyping people up about generations is marketing shyt. But we’d all be better off to let that idea go

 

[The Mad Titan]

So we’re complaining about pro consoles now? Something everyone and their mother knew was coming. Even back then when the og 5 dropped people were saying. That they’ll wait for the pro consoles to release instead of buying the og system. And now it’s releasing and people asses are hurt about it.

So we acting like mid generation console refreshes are typical now


Last gen was the 1st generation of this.

 

[Jaguar93]

So we acting like mid generation console refreshes are typical now


Last gen was the 1st generation of this.

Yes we are…it happened last gen and sold like hotcakes. Why wouldn’t they do it again when it sells? I mean everyone predicted this.

 

[The Mad Titan]

The biggest issue is the the old hardware isn't cheap enough to even support people rotating out of a PS5 into a pro and PS4 users into a PS5.


I feel like releasing the PS5 pro this year or even at all isn't a good idea and is probably more just for the books or to stimulate software sales

 

[Instant Classic]

this last gen had a long cross-gen period, and the new consoles still sold well. I think they can have shorter 'generations' if they're not quick to cut off last gen players

Yeah, it makes sense to go this route because it seems devs are going to spend first 2-3 years creating mostly cross-gen games. The early adopters are going to buy a new console regardless imo, so might as well have shorter gens.

 

[Pressure]

I feel pro consoles show that we need shorter gens . consoles should release every 6 years because technology moves quickly

Generations are an outdated concept.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

The biggest issue is the the old hardware isn't cheap enough to even support people rotating out of a PS5 into a pro and PS4 users into a PS5.


I feel like releasing the PS5 pro this year or even at all isn't a good idea and is probably more just for the books or to stimulate software sales

For last gen the Pro consoles made sense in concept.

People had 4k TVs, with no 4k content

Problem is, PS4 pro couldn’t actually do 4k content.

Now PS5 can’t do 4K content, and they wanna sell another console based on the idea of 4k content