Phil's Drunk Messin' With The Association Save Again: Knicks 2015-2016 Tryout / Off Season Thread

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Your acting like every team doesn't need those things.

winning teams do, sure. But winning teams dont need guys like Melo. Points, especially guys that put up points on a lot of shots on mediocre to less than mediocre teams are the most overrated commodities in basketball.
 

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Really ? you really underrate Melo all the time . Is Melo the best player in the nba ? No but a healthy Melo is one of the top 10 players in the league . He's improved defensively and is a great offensive rebounder which is almost all effort . You praising chandler who was routinely no showing any big game the Knicks played and made hibbert a star . You ignore how valuable JR was to that 54 win team . Why is that both the Knicks and nuggets best recent playoff runs happened with Melo ?? All the cast and Melo was just there chucking away huh? Melo needs a team around him just any other player ! We have teams with 2 top 10 players that win no rings in the current nba but let's focus on Melo . I mean it's not mr cp3 hasn't won a ring right hes been further ... Oh wait !!! Not true at all.

lol no he is not, in no particular order...

1.Lebron
2. Durant
3, Westbrook
4, Paul
5, Griffin
6, Curry
7.Howard
8.George
9.Wall
10. Marc Gasol
11.Cousins
12.Davis
13.Harden
14.Kawhi
15.Butler

Are all clearly better than Melo.
 

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winning teams do, sure. But winning teams dont need guys like Melo. Points, especially guys that put up points on a lot of shots on mediocre to less than mediocre teams are the most overrated commodities in basketball.
Actually...points is exactly what the Cavs needed when Lebron James, alone -since Mozgov had to sit in the 4th - was the only person producing offensive output. If Lebron had one more guy who could consistently put points on the board...the outcome on a lot of those games would have been different.

With that being said... I am a staunch "Defense is key" guy. I love when games end in a score like 81-77 like back in the 90's Knicks Era...I'm just saying that with the right defensive players & 2nd option, Melo would look so efficient.
 

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Actually...points is exactly what the Cavs needed when Lebron James, alone -since Mozgov had to sit in the 4th - was the only person producing offensive output. If Lebron had one more guy who could consistently put points on the board...the outcome on a lot of those games would have been different.

With that being said... I am a staunch "Defense is key" guy. I love when games end in a score like 81-77 like back in the 90's Knicks Era...I'm just saying that with the right defensive players & 2nd option, Melo would look so efficient.

Well the Cavs were injured at that point. Lebron's also on a different planet than Melo is as a player(and by Lebron standards he had a down year this year)... Melo's had defensive players and second options(in reality he is one) and he hasn't changed at all...it just is what it is. It's Melo's own fault JR's his boy....Lebron was braindead bringing him and Shumpert in tbh....but Bron has his own issues with trying to be Mr Gm imo
 

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He went to the WCF once(a team also with Nene, Chauncey and young Birdman). The Knicks have stunk since the trade. And Kidd wasn't washed he just ended up playing too many minutes. And the defensive anchor and the competent PG are more valuable to a team than Melo jacking long two's and hitting them at a low rate. Stop overrating scoring.
:russ: U must be drunk early today. How'd they stink if they won 52 games?
 

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Well the Cavs were injured at that point. Lebron's also on a different planet than Melo is as a player(and by Lebron standards he had a down year this year)... Melo's had defensive players and second options(in reality he is one) and he hasn't changed at all...it just is what it is. It's Melo's own fault JR's his boy....Lebron was braindead bringing him and Shumpert in tbh....but Bron has his own issues with trying to be Mr Gm imo

When Melo had defensive players and second options, he made the WCF with Denver and the second round with the Knicks. That's pretty good for a guy who has played on a lot of less than stellar line-ups. But I get the hate, people tend to not appreciate Iverson and Melo types.
 

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lol no he is not, in no particular order...

1.Lebron
2. Durant
3, Westbrook
4, Paul
5, Griffin
6, Curry
7.Howard
8.George
9.Wall
10. Marc Gasol
11.Cousins
12.Davis
13.Harden
14.Kawhi
15.Butler

Are all clearly better than Melo.

Paul George? Jimmy Butler? Dwight Howard? Demarcus Cousins? Kawhi Leonard? John Wall?

Clearly better than Melo? :laff:
 

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Paul George? Jimmy Butler? Dwight Howard? Demarcus Cousins? Kawhi Leonard? John Wall?

Clearly better than Melo? :laff:

:mjlol::mjlol:Fat Iverson is better than those players? That no defense playing, ballstopping overrated bum is not better than any of those players.
 
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