Phil's Drunk Messin' With The Association Save Again: Knicks 2015-2016 Tryout / Off Season Thread

[CantStop]

@Mr. Jack Napier

u finna get that ban hammer

 

[JMurder]

This has been proven wrong over and over again.

You don't need to be good for free agents to sign, you need to put together an enticing package.

Cleveland is a dumpster fire, and LeBron signed there, and Kevin Love forced a trade there.

If the knicks have space, they'll be a factor. If they end up with a young talented player from the lottery, all the better.

I'd prefer them to be good, but the last thing I want to see is some ninth-seed team blowing it on both ends. I've tried to explain over and over that this is not a great roster. People don't want to hear it. Maybe calderon will be the missing piece.

Lebron signed to Cleveland because he wanted to go back home...is there a Lebron on this team?

Is there a franchise changing player that wants to come home to NY and play?

And once again...we're ignoring a decade of history where the only star players that wanted to come to play for us had tragic flaws in their game that made us worse instead of better.

 

[mvp_status]

We got these swagless ass hawk fans in here popping shyt

they earned the right tonight

 

[JMurder]

This team needs some practice time... they got the basics down but don't know what to do when the basics get shut down

once they can be comfortable running all the sets without thinking, it'll be a different looking team.

 

[I.V.]

Lebron signed to Cleveland because he wanted to go back home...is there a Lebron on this team?

Is there a franchise changing player that wants to come home to NY and play?

And once again...we're ignoring a decade of history where the only star players that wanted to come to play for us had tragic flaws in their game that made us worse instead of better.

Don't be a child.

LeBron went back to Cleveland because the situation was better there, and his time in Miami had elapsed. Cleveland had space, young talent, and the room to bring in another star with him. They had Kyrie - a talented young guard, and he knew he could bring Kevin Love, a star Power Forward.

I'm sure it was a bonus that it was his hometown, but if they had Utah's roster, he wouldn't be in Cleveland.

"Is there a franchise changing player that wants to come home to new york?" Who cares? LeBron and Bosh went to Miami, Dwight went to Houston, Kevin Love went to Cleveland...

The list of players chasing opportunity is LONG and DISTINGUISHED. If the knicks get it together and get themselves to a 6-7 seed. Great. But if they continue to play horrible basketball, and we end up with a top pick and cap space this summer, that is a very good thing for us. More TV money opening up the cap shortly thereafter. A young player added to the core, maybe somebody like Marc Gasol in the mix. Hell LeBron and Kevin Love could be free agents, good players are restricted, LMA is unrestricted.

And if your anecdotal point is that "the knicks have only attracted tragically flawed free agents" -- well, then... all the more reason to hope (aim?) for a high draft pick.

But why are you worried about attracting tragically flawed free agents and past foibles and trends, we've got new management! :knickphil:

 

[JMurder]

Don't be a child.

LeBron went back to Cleveland because the situation was better there, and his time in Miami had elapsed. Cleveland had space, young talent, and the room to bring in another star with him. They had Kyrie - a talented young guard, and he knew he could bring Kevin Love, a star Power Forward.

I'm sure it was a bonus that it was his hometown, but if they had Utah's roster, he wouldn't be in Cleveland.

"Is there a franchise changing player that wants to come home to new york?" Who cares? LeBron and Bosh went to Miami, Dwight went to Houston, Kevin Love went to Cleveland...

The list of players chasing opportunity is LONG and DISTINGUISHED. If the knicks get it together and get themselves to a 6-7 seed. Great. But if they continue to play horrible basketball, and we end up with a top pick and cap space this summer, that is a very good thing for us. More TV money opening up the cap shortly thereafter. A young player added to the core, maybe somebody like Marc Gasol in the mix. Hell LeBron and Kevin Love could be free agents, good players are restricted, LMA is unrestricted.

And if your anecdotal point is that "the knicks have only attracted tragically flawed free agents" -- well, then... all the more reason to hope (aim?) for a high draft pick.

But why are you worried about attracting tragically flawed free agents and past foibles and trends, we've got new management! :knickphil:

That's a long ass post... I'll read it and respond later. But from what I read so far, your thought process completely ignored the fact that dude didn't look at any other teams that had a s good or a better situation than Cleveland. He ain't even meet with anybody before his mind was made up

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

I was pissed earlier that we lost to the Hawks twice in a 3 day span, but I took that anger out on the customers at work. I'm about to listen to this LOX mixtape & chill the f*ck out.

@CantStop We got until all-star break breh, we'll still be better than the Fakeshow

 

[Aje]

 

[I.V.]

That's a long ass post... I'll read it and respond later. But from what I read so far, your thought process completely ignored the fact that dude didn't look at any other teams that had a s good or a better situation than Cleveland. He ain't even meet with anybody before his mind was made up

The list of other teams that had the room for lebron and the assets available to acquire Love... was SHORT.

 

[JMurder]

The list of other teams that had the room for lebron and the assets available to acquire Love... was SHORT.

But they existed

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

I'm predicting this upcoming stretch against garbage opposition sparks some renewed irrational optimism.

 

[JMurder]

I'm predicting this upcoming stretch against garbage opposition sparks some renewed irrational optimism.

I hope they can pick up some runs by the time they get that two day break after that Minnesota game. They need some confidence in the system before Fish/Jackson teach them some more Triangle sets

 

[Futuristic Eskimo]

I hope they can pick up some runs by the time they get that two day break after that Minnesota game. They need some confidence in the system before Fish/Jackson teach them some more Triangle sets

How many guys are even going to be here next year? Longterm implementation of the system is a secondary goal at this point. Phil is just trying to see who is buying in to decide who to keep around. You can see that from the comments he made today. When the roster is completely different next year, the process is going to have to restart anyway.

I wish I saw what you guys are seeing. I haven't been this disinterested in a Knicks season in a very long time.

 

[I.V.]

But they existed

Yeah?

Give them to me.

 

[JMurder]

Yeah?

Give them to me.

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