Phil's Drunk Messin' With The Association Save Again: Knicks 2015-2016 Tryout / Off Season Thread

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AM I the only one who thinks that these niccas were partying or something when they get exhausted in the game
 

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AM I the only one who thinks that these niccas were partying or something when they get exhausted in the game
No, you know, I think they collectively felt that they were playing w/ house money.

In that they knew they were projected...by everyone...to be terrible & the fact that they beat Bron & beat the Hornets, two teams that are supposed to make noise in the East, they felt they could possibly not play 100%.

Of course I'm speculating & I do feel like they play hard but that is what I sensed. There wasn't any urgency in the way they were playing.
 

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The problem was Carmelo Holmes :flabbynsick:
8 TOs :mjlol: 8 for 23? :mjlol:

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As for the bold, false. He had 7 to's (not 8), five of which were in the 1st half and they still went into the half with a lead. Sam, Larkin, Cole, Swish, and Tim were all inefficient. More of all of their shots should have gone to Jason Smith.
 
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I wouldn't over-analyze this loss. They were flat, Melo played awful... and the knicks just shot terribly from the floor.

Plus the Wizards are a good team, and that's BEFORE they get Beal back.

Let's see how they come out against the Pistons. It'll be interesting to see how they try to matchup, because Detroit's Size/Power/Athleticism should KILL us around the basket, but their guard play is awful.
 

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No, you know, I think they collectively felt that they were playing w/ house money.

In that they knew they were projected...by everyone...to be terrible & the fact that they beat Bron & beat the Hornets, two teams that are supposed to make noise in the East, they felt they could possibly not play 100%.

Of course I'm speculating & I do feel like they play hard but that is what I sensed. There wasn't any urgency in the way they were playing.

Nah, bro. They struggle against pressure defense right now. I was concerned about that after they said that's what happened against Chicago. Check these out from last night and against Chicago:

http://player.theplatform.com/p/TZlbt/raiMSG1/select/lRRA0PQ3xG_yZ7MzR4bCwoeCPcKuwI3V?width=1016&height=493&videoWidth=1016&videoHeight=493&feedParams=byId=2587272128

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Inside the New York locker room on Tuesday night, the players admitted to the offensive miscues caused by Washington’s defensive pressure in the second half. In a similar style as the Bulls in the home opener, the Wizards did not allow New York any space to operate the Triangle and generate offensive firepower. The Knicks were held to just 29.3 percent shooting from the floor in the second half. This defeat will provide Derek Fisher’s crew a chance to review the game film and see the back-door opportunities to counter any team that decides to overplay passing lanes and discover the myriad of options in the Triangle to find offensive success in these circumstances. http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/5-ta...Defensive-Pressure-and-Shumps-Offensive-Surge


There's a counter but it's gonna take time because they have to get their options taught to them piece by piece, so that they can absorb it all. Some of the 32 points in that 3rd quarter came from the ft line and it's hard to overcome from great defensive teams because the stops they get adds to the confidence they got at the line and NY was probably timid on defense when everything was a foul in that quarter. I'm actually not worried about this team at all. I was at first.

Obviously, Knicks fans were hoping for a different result on opening night. The key is preaching patience as this team works through the challenges of learning the Triangle Offense and a completely new defensive scheme. The worst-case scenario is to abandon Fisher’s direction and begin to panic early in the season. Chicago is a legit, title contender and New York is in the midst of a new era under Fisher and Phil Jackson. Larkin brought up some great points in the locker room following the defeat. The point guard explained the defensive pressure they witnessed from Chicago and now they understand how to counter through the use of the Triangle and back door cuts. This is one example of how each game will offer learning experiences, which this team must embrace and look to improve in each opportunity on the floor. http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/5-takeaways-what-knicks-learned-opening-night-defeat

Here's how to counter:

http://thomasdee.com/post/94250788845/triangle-101-part-v-how-to-counter-defensive-pressure
 
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