Pharrell's Views On Race Sends Twitter Into An Uproar

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Nationality and race aren't the same thing though :dead:
Race is typically denoted by physical features thus if you "look" a
certain way you're "half" black.
Nationality on the other hand isn't viewed like a mixture of different
attributes, you're just either are, or you aren't.
Hence you get terms like "British American","Chinese American" etc.
You don't get people saying "I'm half British, Half American".
I'm just letting you know before you run into somebody that calls
you out for this shyt offline :russ:

Anyways I know you can drag this out, so instead
of arguing four or five pages, I'll just :
Let me google that for you
Easy there...for a LONG time, nationality and race WERE the same.

In fact, in many countries it is. Japan. China. Russia. Etc.

In fact, most countries on earth are MOSTLY homogenous enough to qualify for such a label.
 

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I think I am starting to realize Black Americans are doomed. I'm going to look to assimilate in a Black country and watch the destruction continue :snoop:


No other group loos for wiggle room to run from their problems :leostare:

Responsibility isn't a word in their/our lexicon man. Thats kinda the point.

I'm DOWN to comment on problems....but NO ONE IN HERE is focused on solutions.
 

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Responsibility isn't a word in their/our lexicon man. Thats kinda the point.

I'm DOWN to comment on problems....but NO ONE IN HERE is focused on solutions.

The distinction between CREATING the issue and TAKING responsibility is one they can't make

Rather build my wealth in a nation of undamaged Blacks
 

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Dude, Pharrell pretty much UNDERSTANDS the black struggle. Listen to his lyrics...but he doesn't let it define him, and you wish it did. Thats the difference.

And how the fukk would you know that? Stop putting words in the man's mouth. He's talking about not letting "blackness" stop you from achieving your goals and i'm totally for that. But he negated the fact that most of the reasons why "blackness" could stop you have NOTHING to do with you. It's not a matter of blame. shyt has been set up for the better part of SIX-HUNDRED YEARS to keep people of African decent subjugated on this side of the planet. Talent or not, those are hurdles that still stand to this day and only a fool would not at least acknowledge that they are there even if they are only ankle high for some.

Race fades away the more money/prestige you make simple as that. You think Arabs and Bebers were trying to hate on Mansa Munsa when he was throwing gold everywhere? Nope, so his views on race were perhaps similar to Pharell's.
 

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Easy there...for a LONG time, nationality and race WERE the same.

In fact, in many countries it is. Japan. China. Russia. Etc.

In fact, most countries on earth are MOSTLY homogenous enough to qualify for such a label.
Whoa.
I don't know if you read my previous posts in the thread, I acknowledged that
but let's get something straight here, past or present Nationality and Race aren't
totally the same and if you're American, the vast majority of people won't ever see your
nationality first, they'll see your skin color.
That's why there's a clear distinction here based on Nationality and Race (well
here and in other countries as well).
I think we can at least agree that someone (black) who's from some country in Africa or someone who's Jamaican who has children with someone who's Black/African American, won't be having "Half Black","Half Jamaican","Half American" or "Half African" children or something else equally ridiculous.
 

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Talent or not, those are hurdles that still stand to this day and only a fool would not at least acknowledge that they are there even if they are only ankle high for some.

Agreed but is that what is going on or are people only doing that as a way to explain away responsibility? Its okay to fail but nikkas aren't even trying...
 

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Responsibility isn't a word in their/our lexicon man. Thats kinda the point.

I'm DOWN to comment on problems....but NO ONE IN HERE is focused on solutions.

it's not too late for you to start suggesting solutions.

:mjpls:
 

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Agreed but is that what is going on or are people only doing that as a way to explain away responsibility? Its okay to fail but nikkas aren't even trying...

That is something we can also agree on, remember the psychological effects of the slave trade/jim crow/ect. are so deep rooted that its all but eroded the self-worth of some sects of African-Americans. But by no means is than an excuse to not work, not strive to better ones self through travel/education/finance ect.
 

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AT THE END of the day we all still buy our black hair care products from Koreans. Koreans be hooking brothas up with wave grease and do-rags. That's why i'm proud of mike vick getting into black hair care.



if you ain't cutting the checks ya have no power. everyone goes to the white man for job and if ya not in his social circle ya gonna have a hard time.

when I hear about jessie jackson going in on silicon valley i can respect the idea...but he's begging white people to hire blacks and latinos. why isn't Jessie Jackson about getting black investors to creating competing companies? if ya can't join em...beat em!

Me in included....i feel lie we want to be the CEO of Walmart, or Mcdonalds (no offense to the brotha in charge) or apple instead of creating a competing start-up in the garage. But as a black man when you (blacks are still underpaid for same job compared to whites) and your people gave away free labor to build a country who wants to re-create?
 

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That is something we can also agree on, remember the psychological effects of the slave trade/jim crow/ect. are so deep rooted that its all but eroded the self-worth of some sects of African-Americans. But by no means is than an excuse to not work, not strive to better ones self through travel/education/finance ect.

So, true. Pharrell wants us to forget how messed up the system is, that is too narrow of a view.

I still believe people are responsible for their actions. And I would never let a man off the hook for his mistakes and weakness.

I feel a strong mind through education, discipline (so they can stay committed to goals), and self-control (so they are not so wreckless and destructive) is the difference between success and failure.

Our community are producing too many weak minded individuals, with no will power. This wasn't always the case, its psychological war through and through.
 

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:smh: U r so wrong

No because it is period. Its a lazy excuse because the lazy thing as I asked someone else is that all y'all on the opposite are saying such because your broke. That's lazy IMO. I've said it before if most people socioeconomic status isn't where it needs to be that's on them. People all of a sudden when it comes to blacks its about us collectively no it isn't. Its about us as individuals first and those who have similar views link up just like in many other facets of life. We can disagree on that but that's just how I feel and was raised regarding not letting circumstances gender my development. It worked for people around me and even others I didn't know until later so that's how I roll and you roll how you do and whatever happens.
i read this, and im not even disagreeing with the facts stated but where are you going with this?

i think in the end you are believing in an ideology that puts the fate of the black race in white hands, which i think is an unacceptable ideology

No, no, no...

This is where ya'll are missin' my point.

1. @philmonroe, quick with this black/white (metaphorically) where it's either this:hula: that

This is why I don't like talkin' about complicated subjects on thecoli

Ya'll make everything so simple, like race, when they are complicated subjects

@theworldismine13, no, none of my comments, in this thread, read as "It's white people's fault we are down"

Like I"m trying to get to @philmonroe ; Race isn't as simple as; it's white people's fault for our ills and only they can save us from this horrible situation

I'll try to keep this brief;

This country is about money. Capitalism is it's religion. Every system of discrimination (sexism, racism, xenophobia, etc.) is based on money. America is afraid of women takin' jobs $$$, America is scared of being robbed by Mailk $$$, America is afraid of immigrants comin' and doin' jobs ppl don't even want $$$.

Everything in this country is about money.

Dr. King was seeing it and saw the foundation of our situation was poverty and the lack of economic power.

With that said; ecomonic power = equality in this country.

Racist don't see your skin tone, they see your perceived (sterotypes are the riligion of Capitalism's 10 commandantments poverty).

Racist, sexist & xeonphobes have a lot of money issues mixed with their hatred. I'm digressing...

People like Pharell, don't see racism or race, because he has money, he has fame, he has affluence and most of all, he has people who would love to make money off of him. Of course they have no problem with him.

No, not everyone in his life is a fake snake, lookin' for dough. But, even racist will put their hate aside to make a buck.

You wanna see racism; see that white people are the biggest drug users, but brothers get arrested, charged and sentenced wwwwwaaaayyyy more.

Look at the Republican platform; hey, good clean, Christian white folk; these blacks & Mexicans & Muslims are threatening your way of life--you are on the fast track to being a millionaire :troll:--vote against your own interest...yea, we have anti-poor views, oh, but your goin' be rich someday, so help us empower the rich--that home business is $4,000 a year, but, it'll be $40 million if youo put us in office :troll:

There's 40 million black ppl, in this country...there's 40 MILLION TOTAL POOR WHITE FOLK in the same country.

The media (this religion's preist) tells lies; blacks, Mexicans, women and Muslims are stealing your money...LET US PUNISH EM...

There's so many layers to this and this post is very off hand, but, it's not as simple as "Oh, I'ma do me and not worry about race." THIS METALITY is our problem. Oh, I got a house & job, no black person has a reason to be poor.

Brotha's, read the news. They closing schools in Chicago & Detroit. WHAT IS THE FATE OF THOSE CHILDREN!?!?

Are they supposed to be like; well, this ain't about me being black, Imma do me and keep it pushing???
 

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The distinction between CREATING the issue and TAKING responsibility is one they can't make

Rather build my wealth in a nation of undamaged Blacks
I feel like the militants are chasing their tails in here.

Its like the military industrial complex CREATING shyt to fight.

(not saying we dont need militants :whoa:)

Look.

There are aspects of INDIVIDUAL influence that blacks can change.

Period.

Culture, values, and ...*shudder*...morals matter...and i'm basically a nihilist :wow:

Can't get ahead without dropping the bullshyt.

The real problem is that Pharrell contributed to some of the problems in the black community VIA HIS MUSIC than he probably cares to admit...:mjpls:
 

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it's not too late for you to start suggesting solutions.

:mjpls:
Dudes gotta change what they value as entertainment, frankly.

Too much acceptance of negative entertainment imagery of blacks.

Straight up. Blacks need to boycott EVERY song, picture, or movie that shows us negatively.

Can't gain the respect of others if you don't have it for yourself.

And that may mean abandoning the very music Pharrell helped create :mjpls:


....lets not even get started on education...
 
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