Peter Rosenberg hating on these R&B battles is proof that you cant trust rap opinions from this dude

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He’s close-minded for this. Anything that isn’t Madlib or Hi-tek is trash
 

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And Nas is one of the most Rnb/Soul/Jazz influences rappers of all time, he has countless lines with references to Rnb and Soul singers of yesteryear, I mean he even made a whole track in ‘Blunt Ashes’ dedicated to them, his Dad was a Jazz player and basically from near his inception he’s been collaborating with Rnb singers, any person who is a fan of Nas would know what makes him great is his appreciation for not only older Hip Hop acts but his appreciation for Black music of all generations in general, and Tupac or nearly every GOAT level rapper was exactly the same.
 

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That's a different issue. Not wanting to mix genres is different than hating on r&b. Rap dudes didn't fukk with Michael Jackson? If anything, hardcore rap stans didn't like trendy new r&b at the time but respected/enjoyed the established artists from Luther to MJ to Anita Baker.


there was a rivalry between rap and r&b back in the day.
and that point in the late '80s/early '90s era, r&b was kicking rap's ass. hence, the reason why ice cube & tribe were throwing shots.

btw, Michael Jackson used to get dissed heavy. altho, he was a pop artist by the time hip-hop got big, and not the same Motown mike that rappers grew up on.


I literally said these exact words last week :russ:

It's time we get that goofy outta Hip Hop FOR GOOD. Do him worse than cipha sounds


whatever happened to cipha sounds??

he sucked but he seemed like a nice guy.


I've never met a black person who didn't like R&B.

Like, ever.


yes you have.

plenty of em on this board.
 

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there was a rivalry between rap and r&b back in the day.
and that point in the late '80s/early '90s era, r&b was kicking rap's ass. hence, the reason why ice cube & tribe were throwing shots.

btw, Michael Jackson used to get dissed heavy. altho, he was a pop artist by the time





whatever happened to cipha sounds??

he sucked but he seemed like a nice guy.






yes you have.

plenty of em on this board.

No idea. Last I heard he had a podcast but that was like 2 years ago
 

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didn't really watch it yet BUT

that Russell simmons quote in the beginning, sums up what I was saying about Michael Jackson getting dissed heavy.

EDIT: video was pretty sloppy. the timeline was lazy.
and they ignored the fact that '70s & '80s hip-hop always had the singing hooks & such. they tried to just mention whodini as a footnote and claim that they were just suttle about it. I doubt that they even did any research prior to them.

which basically takes the Russell simmons comment out of context, in a way.
 
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fukking ridiculous..
I ran out and sourced soul and rnb tracks based on samples I heard in hiphop. Music is a mission and a journey, these cac supremacist journos want to dictate the direction of art..:mjtf:
 

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I have no problem with rosenberg's hot takes from his perspective. I find him entertaining actually.

the problem is that his chit usually goes uncontested unless they have an outspoken guest in the room, like when papoose clowned him.

I don't understand how whats supposed to be the biggest show on supposedly the biggest urban radio station, doesn't have a black person on the panel. do black people actually listen to that chit in new York??
 
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