Pete Rock Blasts Funkmaster Flex For Not Supporting Real Hip-Hop "You talk sh*t like you better than everybody and I believe it's all planned"

[ExodusNirvana]

Fair enough…its chicken and egg i suppose.

Did people listen to Drama Hour (rip) or Real Late, or are those too irrelevant (again, not sarcasm)

It depends...there was definitely a point where Kay Slay was must listen radio or at the very least you'd have it on in the background or something

I think the issue with NYC radio right now is that once upon a time, artists from other regions used to say that only NYC artist got spins in NYC and they were right because if you weren't from NYC/NJ or you had a pass off the strength of how dope you were (ie. Guru) you weren't getting burn like that.

Now? You barely hear NYC artists and the ones that you do hear feel like they're artificially pushed.

Flex should definitely be playing more Griselda, even if he himself don't feel them like that, to deny their popularity is kinda crazy on his part because he knows damn well that he is a gatekeeper and he's misusing that power.

There were definitely some people that should have been left off that most recent Summer Jam lineup and replaced with the Big Three from Griselda and Stove God Cooks.

 

[bobbiewishbone]

Pete suing Eddie F too?

 

[Collateral]

Everyday when Flex gets on the radio he plays the same songs, literally. Same sequence, same Chief Keef song from 10 years ago when he said he was gonna blow New Jersey up, same “random” callers giving their shytty Doja Cat requests and whatnot. Flex has power but he still gotta take orders from somebody. Flex don’t give a damn about supporting and propping up local artists, he has his formula and sticks by it.

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

Please tell me we’re gonna get another “you don’t know what music I play IN THIS BUILDING!!! “

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Pete Rock supporting Griselda but saying drill music is brain poison sure is interesting.

It's not complicated. How many beefs resulting in violence had grizelda jumped off? They real opps in their songs? They got active issues stemming from music?

This false equivalency needs to stop. Drill music has associated bodies for days with no end. It's like if hit em up was a genre not an individual diss. Drill is very much all the worst elements.of street music combined +social media instigation = fireworks. You comparing that to middle aged street poetry raps

Let me know when grizelda music becomes the soundtrack to bodies after bodies, Rico charges etc.

 

[L. Deezy]

Flex ethered Pete.. hate to say it

 

[TripleAgent]

Flex has the airtime to go on a 20 minute rant about Pete Rock but can't play a Griselda song every so often?

 

[Ziggiy]

I love music by Pete Rock and Conway too, but like...do people really think in 2022 that Flex has a ton of power? When I worked in the music business in the 2000's it was already at a point where DJs had almost no say to play what they wanted outside of college radio. If you're at a major station, you got pre-approved lists of what stuff you can play. He might be able to play 1 or 2 songs every xyz amount of minutes, but it's not a ton of freedom.

This whole situation is just weird to me in the streaming era. Terrestrial radio isn't even breaking new artists anymore, period. In any genre. Why anyone cares what Flex plays or doesn't play in 2022 I have no idea.

I think of it as more of a “prestige” thing. These NY artists literally GREW UP listening to Flex drop bombs. It was probably their dream to have their songs played on Hot 97 and Flex go wild. Instead, not only do they NOT get the radio love, Flex shades them and publicly says he don’t fukk with their music. Thats gotta sting.

 

[L $ C]

Pete Rock supporting Griselda but saying drill music is brain poison sure is interesting.

I dont see how thats surprising tho....I mean its the styles not content


flex restoring the feeling lol

 

[Piff Perkins]

It's not complicated. How many beefs resulting in violence had grizelda jumped off? They real opps in their songs? They got active issues stemming from music?

This false equivalency needs to stop. Drill music has associated bodies for days with no end. It's like if hit em up was a genre not an individual diss. Drill is very much all the worst elements.of street music combined +social media instigation = fireworks. You comparing that to middle aged street poetry raps

Let me know when grizelda music becomes the soundtrack to bodies after bodies, Rico charges etc.

So rapping about killing nikkas and selling drugs is all good as long as you aren't naming specific opps? Crime was higher in the 90s during the heights of gangsta rap. What would your argument be back then...

 

[Tetsuo]

Hilarious. And the funny thing is the Bronx drill is the most authentic, organic, and “hip-hop” thing out.

nikka please

 

[Redwing80]

Flex is hilarious I don't care what anyone says

Facts he's entertaining and makes good points too. Pete Rock shytting on drill was corny

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

So rapping about killing nikkas and selling drugs is all good as long as you aren't naming specific opps? Crime was higher in the 90s during the heights of gangsta rap. What would your argument be back then...

One is like watching a movie and the other is the first 48. Crime was higher. But crime related to music and murder related to music has never been higher. Rappers have never died at this rate before drill in any era of rap. So there's no need for an argument, the stats are there. False equivalency.

Yes naming names and personalizing beef while still actively in the streets has consequences. Just the mere act of naming people makes them pressed to retaliate. Now if they were doing the same shyt and not personalizing the attacks in music People wouldn't feel a need to save face in public or maintain a rep. When you getting clowned in songs and socials, dead loved ones or living people it's just pushing for friction. Add to that the social media and you got fuel to a fire.

You talking crime stats but when's the last time you seen people in real abject poverty? No heat in the winter. No food type shyt. Be real. This is the same generation of kids who said songs like Ghostface all got is you is cap because they don't believe the level of struggle described and can't relate to it.. Being poor back then and being poor today is NOT the same thing.

You can struggle today and still be in a home with cable, internet heat and running water. Crimes for the most part in this era are driven by opportunity more than need. That's a reality most people won't talk about. This isn't back in the day.

 

[Art Barr]

Says the producer. Who was always infringe'n on emcees trying to rhyme.
when he need to shut up and just produce. The problem is nikkaz liie pete rock think they should be behind a mic. Which made it so every producer who should not be rhyme'n think they can rhyme. Ol sheltered producer rap ruined rap. Drake being called an emcee on a sprite can is from wack nikkaz like pete rock and diddy. All this commmercial wack shyt is partly because of producer trying to be the emcee and are not and never were.

Flex is huff too but if wack producer were never allowed to rhyme. We would not be where we are .





Art Barr

 

[The Dust King]

the reason drill is wack is two fold; the amount of off beat, non linear, out of pocket, punching is ridiculous is 1.

the fact its just a sub genre for gangs to communicate is 2

never herd a dope drill rapper cuz they all are subpar skilled. lack of skills originate from idolizing other wack off beat rappers

so not only is the content extremely negative, it lacks the syncopation.

that ngga rapping over that dancehall had his first line punched in horribly

no bars, no rhythm, no rap skills.

why would i wana hear someone ruin wayne wonders beat? same nggaz who told me auto tune crooning was HOT when it was NOT.

as long as people callin this music then we aint pushin, this is de-evolution