Pete Buttigieg is a failure at the U.S. Department of Transportation - UPDATE: He's improved!!

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How are flights being cancelled an overreaction?

And what’s his plan on updating the technology? Has he articulated it? the FAA is in the Dept of Transportation.

This airline mess is another example of his how behind the United States is. It’s embarrassing and even more embarrassing that our “leaders” seem to not give a fukk.
Fam. Eggs prices are skyrocketing. I haven’t seen one article about the FDA or Agriculture
 

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How are flights being cancelled an overreaction?

And what’s his plan on updating the technology? Has he articulated it? the FAA is in the Dept of Transportation.

This airline mess is another example of his how behind the United States is. It’s embarrassing and even more embarrassing that our “leaders” seem to not give a fukk.
The FAA has its own infrastructure.

If Pete were responsible for appointing these people the argument would hold more weight.
 

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Has little to nothing to do with Buttigeig to be real. This was 1) an overreaction (imo) 2) the results of years of putting off updating FAA technology.


NexGen (upgrading FAA technology across the board) was talked about around 2010.
It’s 2022 and we’re still at crippling pace of actually instituting better plans and newer tech.
Southwest shyt the bed one weekend while no one else did but that’s his fault?!?
 

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Fam. Eggs prices are skyrocketing. I haven’t seen one article about the FDA or Agriculture
It's a lot of what you said before.

2017 and 2018 were met with mass delays and outages, but I don't recall one Elaine Chao is a massive failure thread over it.




 

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The FAA has its own infrastructure.

If Pete were responsible for appointing these people the argument would hold more weight.
Is the FAA under the Department of Transportation or not?

Thats not absolving Biden or the Senate for not having a confirmed director, but it’s still under Buttigieg’s scope. We don’t need to run interference for him.
 

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Is the FAA under the Department of Transportation or not?

Thats not absolving Biden or the Senate for not having a confirmed director, but it’s still under Buttigieg’s scope. We don’t need to run interference for him.

The Bernie bros invented some argument to undermine him during the southwest thing for not doing preemptive fines or something??? Y’all just come up with weird shyt when disaster hits
 

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It's a lot of what you said before.

2017 and 2018 were met with mass delays and outages, but I don't recall one Elaine Chao is a massive failure thread over it.




Dont you usually make fun of whataboutisms?

Why would we have a thread on this when a majority of the forum said Trump and his admin is a clown show and mocked it hourly.

Buttigieg is doing a bad job in this role and doesn’t deserve your excuse making and whataboutisms.
 

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Is the FAA under the Department of Transportation or not?

Thats not absolving Biden or the Senate for not having a confirmed director, but it’s still under Buttigieg’s scope. We don’t need to run interference for him.
Do you believe appointing effective leadership at the FAA would lead to better results?

If these failures are due to leadership decisions at the FAA, which I think it's hard to argue against with a software update causing flights to he grounded, then the issue falls squarely on the president and Senate for not appointing appropriate leadership. They've been using an active head since March of last year.

So yes, the FAA falls under the DOT, but this scenario unlike the policy discussions we've had early don't fall on Pete because this isn't a policy issue.

Office of the Secretary​

Leadership of the U.S. Department of Transportation is provided by the Secretary of Transportation, who is the principal adviser to the President in all matters relating to federal transportation programs. The Secretary is assisted by the Deputy Secretary in this role. The Office of the Secretary (OST) oversees the formulation of national transportation policy and promotes intermodal transportation. Other responsibilities range from negotiation and implementation of international transportation agreements, assuring the fitness of US airlines, enforcing airline consumer protection regulations, issuance of regulations to prevent alcohol and illegal drug misuse in transportation systems and preparing transportation legislation.

This is on the FAA admin and since Pete has no authority over the hiring and firing of its leadership I just don't see the point of trying to throw this on him.

Federal Aviation Administration​

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) oversees the safety of civil aviation. The safety mission of the FAA is first and foremost and includes the issuance and enforcement of regulations and standards related to the manufacture, operation, certification and maintenance of aircraft. The agency is responsible for the rating and certification of airmen and for certification of airports serving air carriers. It also regulates a program to protect the security of civil aviation, and enforces regulations under the Hazardous Materials Transportation Act for shipments by air.

The FAA, which operates a network of airport towers, air route traffic control centers, and flight service stations, develops air traffic rules, allocates the use of airspace, and provides for the security control of air traffic to meet national defense requirements. Other responsibilities include the construction or installation of visual and electronic aids to air navigation and promotion of aviation safety internationally. The FAA, which regulates and encourages the U.S. commercial space transportation industry, also licenses commercial space launch facilities and private sector launches.
 

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Dont you usually make fun of whataboutisms?

Why would we have a thread on this when a majority of the forum said Trump and his admin is a clown show and mocked it hourly.

Buttigieg is doing a bad job in this role and doesn’t deserve your excuse making and whataboutisms.
Actually, the point being made is people were so caught up in Trump's fukkery or governance through Chaos that they put little to no energy into how poorly they were performing. Now that things have settled they now are looking at these things like this is a new issue.

I'm not sure why folks would say the Trump administration was working hard to dismantle out systems then act surprised when the systems are failing. :pachaha:

The FAA has been facing many of these issues for decades. Acting as if this is the result of one man's failed policy is just blatantly missing the forest for the trees.

I've argued throughout that there needs to be a massive overhaul of most of these agencies and their purviews, but that only happens with the legislative branch actually doing their jobs.
 

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Do you believe appointing effective leadership at the FAA would lead to better results?

If these failures are due to leadership decisions at the FAA, which I think it's hard to argue against with a software update causing flights to he grounded, then the issue falls squarely on the president and Senate for not appointing appropriate leadership. They've been using an active head since March of last year.

So yes, the FAA falls under the DOT, but this scenario unlike the policy discussions we've had early don't fall on Pete because this isn't a policy issue.



This is on the FAA admin and since Pete has no authority over the hiring and firing of its leadership I just don't see the point of trying to throw this on him.
I guess it will be said again, the FAA is within the DOT.

If anything, Biden should be getting more criticism for this but that does not absolve Buttigieg.
 

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Dont you usually make fun of whataboutisms?

Why would we have a thread on this when a majority of the forum said Trump and his admin is a clown show and mocked it hourly.

Buttigieg is doing a bad job in this role and doesn’t deserve your excuse making and whataboutisms.

You can't say what he's done poorly except when the actual FAA shyts the bed itself.

Does he derail trains too?
 

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I guess it will be said again, the FAA is within the DOT.

If anything, Biden should be getting more criticism for this but that does not absolve Buttigieg.
By your own logic we should be blaming Biden. Isn't the DOT under the executive branch? Isn't Biden the President? :Okayjack:

Pete doesn't have limitless control over the 10 agencies within the DOT and it's absurd to suggest that he's going to micromanage them to the point that he's in charge of software updates. And while there is some awareness that he shoukd receive and heads up. I think it'd absurd to assume the former Mayor from Indiana has any knowledge in that space.

We can criticize Pete for his responses and general policy implementation, but I find it interesting considering we generally accept that the President is the one ultimately dictating what he'd like to see put of Major policies.
 

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your own logic we should be blaming Biden. Isn't the DOT under the executive branch? Isn't Biden the President? :Okayjack:
my own logic? My own words just said that. Good job for reading.:heh:

Pete doesn't have limitless control over the 10 agencies within the DOT and it's absurd to suggest that he's going to micromanage them to the point that he's in charge of software updates. And while there is some awareness that he shoukd receive and heads up. I think it'd absurd to assume the former Mayor from Indiana has any knowledge in that space.
Nah, secretaries have wide control over their departments. He was also warned about this in the past and if he did his research on the position, he would have known the FAA mess is a priority From past administrations. He didn’t do shyt.
 

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my own logic? My own words just said that. Good job for reading.:heh:


Nah, secretaries have wide control over their departments. He was also warned about this in the past and if he did his research on the position, he would have known the FAA mess is a priority From past administrations. He didn’t do shyt.
I made two points:
Pete does not have control over appointing the leadership of the FAA. Potentially because the FAA predates the DOT. Without that sort of control it's hard to really do some of the things you suggest. Broad doesn't mean limitless :manny:

The FAA is a mess. But until they appoint the person (who I assume he wanted to run the agency) and not holdovers from previous years it is what it is. :manny:

Blame Biden. He clearly doesn't care much about this or sees it as problematic as you do. If he did he would have replaced a lot of folks. :manny:
 
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