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poor mixing, theres simply no excuse for it in 2018. every $200 DAW has something that can help clean up

no production credits! why does Genius have it up before some of these bigger artists? thats why everyone started doing tags, cuz they got fukked out of credits or the pay is low. i dont blame em

using 'mixtape' as reason to not pay anyone. Joey Badass is dope to me, but him and his team are weasels for calling 1999 that then selling it on vinyl and still not paying the producers and engineers. thats some label-invented bullshyt
 

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You really think Andre bit Kool Keith like that?....kind of a reach....:patrice:

Dre's change harkened more bac to 70s funkadelic style than that weird offbrand Keith thing. I liked Dr Octagon but you reachin


YEA I DONT HEAR IT EITHER

BUT MAYBE HE MEANS FASHIONWISE

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I CAN KINDA SEE IT
 

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YEA I DONT HEAR IT EITHER

BUT MAYBE HE MEANS FASHIONWISE

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I CAN KINDA SEE IT

Yea he means fashion which i could see. I think they were influenced by the same shyt...the weird gear that Ohio Players and Funkadrlic would wear

I didn’t just mean fashion wise. His name became Andre 3000 a year after the Dr. Octagon album dropped. He wasn’t Andre 3000 before that. He was just Andre.

Listen to him address Andre Benjamin at 3:09



Andre shooting back.



 

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I didn’t just mean fashion wise. His name became Andre 3000 a year after the Dr. Octagon album dropped. He wasn’t Andre 3000 before that. He was just Andre.

Listen to him address Andre Benjamin at 3:09



Andre shooting back.





Hmm....well i kinda get ya point. Regardless Andre>Keith
 

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Dudes are funny. Multiple people suggested I was reaching and then I show evidence and it’s, “I kinda see it” or “Andre is better”. Andre 3000 wouldn’t exist as the MC we know without Kool Keith and to take it one step farther, Andre Benjamin jacked his original flow from Souls of Mischief. Organized Noize said as much in their documentary. All that said, I still love OutKast.
 

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Dudes are funny. Multiple people suggested I was reaching and then I show evidence and it’s, “I kinda see it” or “Andre is better”. Andre 3000 wouldn’t exist as the MC we know without Kool Keith and to take it one step farther, Andre Benjamin jacked his original flow from Souls of Mischief. Organized Noize said as much in their documentary. All that said, I still love OutKast.

You could say the same thing about Nas building on Rakim's foundation

Or

Biggie building on what Kool G Rap started

Were they biting?

Improving on something and just biting without adding on are two different things.
 

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You could say the same thing about Nas building on Rakim's foundation

Or

Biggie building on what Kool G Rap started

Were they biting?

Improving on something and just biting without adding on are two different things.

Nas didn’t call himself Naskim or Nas The Microphone Fiend though. Same for Biggie. By the way, bad example with Biggie. Biggie was more in the vein of Heavy D or Chubb Rock with his rhythmatic delivery. Nas was more influenced by Rakim and G Rap.

Big Pun was a direct G Rap offspring style wise, BUT he acknowledged that and physically knelt and kissed G Rap’s ring when he met him.
 

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Nas didn’t call himself Naskim or Nas The Microphone Fiend though. Same for Biggie. By the way, bad example with Biggie. Biggie was more in the vein of Heavy D or Chubb Rock with his rhythmatic delivery. Nas was more influenced by Rakim and G Rap.

Big Pun was a direct G Rap offspring style wise, BUT he acknowledged that and physically knelt and kissed G Rap’s ring when he met him.

Biggie was a Kool G disciple. He aint like no fukkn Heavy D or Chubb besides being a fat nikka like them usually you only heard Big Poppa or the pop shyt. Gimme the Loot is a direct update of "Train Robbery" by Kool G....Biggie just went in more detail than Kool G
 

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one of roc’s people tried to say rapping over drumless loops harder than with drums which is bullshyt

I think it COULD be it depends on what the sample is and how it’s looped. I don’t necessarily think it’s “lazy” production just boring. Do it for one project or for a few songs here and there but to have that be your whole style is boring IMO. imagine if Ghostface just kept rapping over full songs like he did with Holla? It would have got boring very quickly
 

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Biggie was a Kool G disciple. He aint like no fukkn Heavy D or Chubb besides being a fat nikka like them usually you only heard Big Poppa or the pop shyt. Gimme the Loot is a direct update of "Train Robbery" by Kool G....Biggie just went in more detail than Kool G

Subject matter, yes. Flow, no. Appearance and style? Definitely influenced by the two I mentioned. I’d post examples, but I feel like you’re still not going to acknowledge it.

 

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Subject matter, yes. Flow, no. Appearance and style? Definitely influenced by the two I mentioned. I’d post examples, but I feel like you’re still not going to acknowledge it.



Yea Puff modeled his appearance on Chubb n Heavy. You are Correct.

His flow, lyrics n delivery are not like them two at all besides Poppa and one more chance remix
 
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