People finding out they owe more in taxes this year because of the 2017 tax revision passed by Donald Trump & Paul Ryan #BothSides

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All the years biden been in office did he fix it for the people who got him in there... or was he quiet like a bytch...:mjlol: these politicians aint shyt and you literally say nothing about biden correcting all the bad shyt trump was doing. Taxing the rich. no he taxed poor folks harder... taxing corporations using their money to help the poor people. nope tax loopholes still exist and they pay no federal tax...

:mjlol: wow really game changing...

And this is not in defense of trump but to show you BIDEN aint shyt either... so...:manny:
I have no idea why you continue to enter political debates. This is a pathetic post by the way.
 

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All the years biden been in office did he fix it for the people who got him in there... or was he quiet like a bytch...:mjlol: these politicians aint shyt and you literally say nothing about biden correcting all the bad shyt trump was doing. Taxing the rich. no he taxed poor folks harder... taxing corporations using their money to help the poor people. nope tax loopholes still exist and they pay no federal tax...

:mjlol: wow really game changing...

And this is not in defense of trump but to show you BIDEN aint shyt either... so...:manny:
You have to be one of the dumbest people on this forum. Learn how tax cuts are passed before spewing bullshyt.
 

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You have to be one of the dumbest people on this forum. Learn how tax cuts are passed before spewing bullshyt.

But am I wrong???:sas2: why havent biden reversed or fixed whatever trump did??? y'all blaming trump that's fine but dont hold biden accountable to fix nothing...:mjlol: fukking joke. y'all are a fukking joke...
 

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The #bothsodes gang, also has no smoke for Trump of Haldling COVID, the George Floyd murder, or the 1/6 insurrection.
What's worse about their ignoring of Jan 6 is that the main focus of Trump's lie about voter fraud was the votes from black cities, ie Philly, Atlanta, Detroit. Those are the votes he was angry about, and if he had his way would throw out. The worst thing about both siders isn't that they're stupid. isn't that they think they're telling educated people about the corruption in the DNC that they don't know, it's the "I'm so smart, I have it all figured out" attitude, when it's really the opposite.
 

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What's worse about their ignoring of Jan 6 is that the main focus of Trump's lie about voter fraud was the votes from black cities, ie Philly, Atlanta, Detroit. Those are the votes he was angry about, and if he had his way would throw out. The worst thing about both siders isn't that they're stupid. isn't that they think they're telling educated people about the corruption in the DNC that they don't know, it's the "I'm so smart, I have it all figured out" attitude, when it's really the opposite.

They still believe that COVID was a Democrat and China collaboration :heh:
 

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All the years biden been in office did he fix it for the people who got him in there... or was he quiet like a bytch...:mjlol: these politicians aint shyt and you literally say nothing about biden correcting all the bad shyt trump was doing. Taxing the rich. no he taxed poor folks harder... taxing corporations using their money to help the poor people. nope tax loopholes still exist and they pay no federal tax...

:mjlol: wow really game changing...

And this is not in defense of trump but to show you BIDEN aint shyt either... so...:manny:

As part of his fiscal year 2024 budget proposal, President Joe Biden introduced a set of tax proposals that would reform and reverse some of the changes made by the TCJA and take ambitious steps toward ensuring that income from wealth is taxed comparably to that from work.8 Taken as a whole, the Biden proposal would substantially improve the equity of the nation’s tax code while raising revenues to support investments that will advance economic growth and opportunities and the well-being of American families. This issue brief examines and contrasts between the two sets of proposals, which offer starkly different visions for the future on the nation’s tax laws.

President Biden’s fiscal year 2024 budget includes a set of proposals that would reverse many of the TCJA’s tax cuts for the wealthy and reform how the tax code treats income from unrealized gains.32 The Biden budget would also restore the child tax credit’s full refundability and expand the credit from $2,000 per child to $3,000 per child for children age 6 and older and to $3,600 per child for children younger than 6 years old. Taken as a whole, these proposals would, on average, result in lower taxes for the bottom 90 percent of the income distribution while significantly increasing taxes on the top 1 percent.33 Specifically, the president’s budget proposal would:
  • Restore the top 39.6 percent tax rate for married couples with taxable income of more than $450,000 and single earners with taxable income above $400,000. The TCJA lowered the top rate to 37 percent.34
  • Equalize the tax rate on capital income with the rate on work for millionaires. Currently, long-term capital gains and qualified dividends are taxed at a rate of 20 percent. The new rate would only apply to the extent that the taxpayer’s taxable income exceeds $1 million ($500,000 for married people filing separately) and would be indexed for inflation after 2024.35
  • End the so-called stepped-up basis at death for assets that are passed on to heirs by taxing capital gains at death or the date of transfer.36 The proposal would also impose a 25 percent minimum tax on the total income of taxpayers with wealth exceeding $100 million. The tax would apply to income from unrealized capital gains and would function as a pre-payment of the tax that would ultimately be owed when the gain is recognized at sale or death.37 Taken together, these provisions would close loopholes that currently allow the very wealthy to avoid ever paying taxes on appreciated investments.
  • Stem the abuse of tax-preferred retirement accounts by the wealthy. The president’s proposal would impose a minimum distribution requirement on tax-favored retirement account balances exceeding $10 million.38 It would also limit the ability of the wealthy to use so-called mega IRAs to avoid paying capital gains taxes and to avoid paying estate taxes on amounts passed on to wealthy heirs.39
  • Close the carried interest loophole that allows investment fund managers to treat most of their income as capital gains—which are taxed at a lower rate—rather than wage and salary income.40 The change would apply to individuals with taxable incomes above $400,000.41
  • Close loopholes in the net investment income tax (NIIT) that benefit high-income taxpayers with pass-through business income, ensuring that all pass-through business income is treated consistently with other investment earnings of high-income individuals. The president would also increase the NIIT and related Medicare payroll tax rate by 1.2 percentage points for those with more than $400,000 of income and dedicate the entire proceeds of the tax to boost the solvency of the Medicare Hospital Insurance Trust Fund.


The Biden budget proposals address flaws in U.S. tax system that allow the wealthiest to avoid taxes​

The president’s proposed minimum tax would address flaws that allow the nation’s very wealthiest families to pay a lower tax rate than middle-income families or even their slightly less wealthy counterparts. Recent research examines the impact of provisions of the tax law that provide preferential treatment for investment income and the fact that this income goes untaxed until an asset is sold. Taken together, these factors allow the wealthy to pay low tax rates year after year and, in many instances, to avoid paying tax altogether.45

Using a broader measure of earnings that includes income from unsold stock, economists Greg Leiserson and Danny Yagan estimated the average individual tax rate paid by the United States’ 400 wealthiest families and found that for the period from 2010 to 2018, they paid an average tax rate of 8.2 percent.46 This analysis takes into account the benefits the wealthy receive from the assets they own, as well as the tax preferences provided to realized and unrealized investment income.

A separate analysis by Martin Sullivan, using only income reported for tax purposes, compared the taxes paid by the superwealthy— those earning more than $10 million—versus their modestly wealthy counterparts and found the federal income tax to be progressive up until the very highest incomes.47 This analysis cites the wealthiest individuals’ very high share of income from tax-preferenced capital gains and dividends as the reason for the sizeable drop in their average tax rates. These households had adjusted gross incomes (AGI) of more than $10 million but paid a rate that was lower than that paid by those reporting $1 million to $10 million in AGI. Tax-favored capital gains and dividends accounted for the majority of the income of the superwealthy—57.8 percent in 2020, as compared with 37.6 percent for those with incomes of $5 million to $10 million and less than 4 percent for those with incomes below $200,000. The author of the study notes that the disparity would be even more significant if the income from unrealized gains is taken into account, saying:

Perhaps the absence of unrealized gain from the tax base wouldn’t be such a big deal if working folks and the rich all had unrealized gains proportionate to their taxable income. But nothing could be further from the truth. Most working folks have relatively small or nonexistent unrealized gains (except for gains on their personal residences). For the superrich, unrealized gains routinely account for an overwhelmingly large proportion of their wealth accumulation.48

The problem with Biden is that he doesn't go far enough on these issues.
 

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