Pelicans Jaxson hayes arrested after brawl with police

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From the sounds yes he was hitting and believe had spit on her...another dude there was pleading with him to stop and just leave.
She was as well and said at the end I don't know what else to do but call the police.
She probably wasn't going to call the police but dude wouldn't leave and kept trying to put hands on her.
Outside video shows shove and spit. She also said she not his punching bag
 

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The outside party is the victim, so the league should have done everything in their power to try and interview her before making the decision because now this video makes them look even worse since they levied no punishment whatsoever. It’s all about optics.

She's also been suing him since 2022 and the case has been ongoing, so it's not like the video just popped up out of the blue.
If it didn’t pop out the blue where was it?

How many employers are interviewing a 3rd party? But again you really believe she would have given up a video during that time? Place blame on the courts not the league
 

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If it didn’t pop out the blue where was it?

How many employers are interviewing a 3rd party? But again you really believe she would have given up a video during that time? Place blame on the courts not the league
Those employers aren't the NBA who have to worry about optics and also have the resources at their disposal to obtain access to more information than the average employer. Cats get fired at their job everyday for less, so I don't know why you think the league can't or shouldn't have done anything about the situation.

Considering that she's been suing him pretty much since the incident happened, whose to say that she wouldn't have given it up if asked?
 

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Those employers aren't the NBA who have to worry about optics and also have the resources at their disposal to obtain access to more information than the average employer. Cats get fired at their job everyday for less, so I don't know why you think the league can't or shouldn't have done anything about the situation.

Considering that she's been suing him pretty much since the incident happened, whose to say that she wouldn't have given it up if asked?
Why hasn’t she given it up before? You haven’t answered that. The league had no legal authority to force her. What would she gain? Were they supposed to pay her
 

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This is a bad look on Adam Silver and the NBA more than anything. What kind of investigation process do you guys have if this clear footage was available and you didn't punish him at all?

He has honestly been very bad at dealing with these issues.


They more than likely could have gotten access to the video had they just decided to interview the victim in the first place instead of taking the court case and Hayes word at face value.

No suspension or punishment at all gives off the optics that they did the bare minimum investigation to sweep it under the rug.


So basically Ray Rice 2.0
 

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Why hasn’t she given it up before? You haven’t answered that. The league had no legal authority to force her. What would she gain? Were they supposed to pay her
Who says she didn't?

Her and her lawyers are claiming that he paid one of the cops during his arrest, which is why this video is now coming to light.
 

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I can say the same to you considering you're the one in here essentially defending a domestic violence abuser.
You’re better than this at least I thought. Lowball reply

No post in here is me defending him. You know my post history. Do better.
I’m specifically pointing out the league is not at fault. If any one failed it’s the justice system.
 

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You’re better than this at least I thought. Lowball reply

No post in here is me defending him. You know my post history. Do better.
I’m specifically pointing out the league is not at fault. If any one failed it’s the justice system.
The league could have done more to investigate and even they would tell you that if they were being honest is all a lot of us are saying.

They were obviously called there for a reason which prompted what ended up transpiring.

If the NFL can do it with no issues and all the fukkery that their players engage in, then the NBA can as well.
 

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The league could have done more to investigate and even they would tell you that if they were being honest is all a lot of us are saying.

They were obviously called there for a reason which prompted what ended up transpiring.

If the NFL can do it with no issues and all the fukkery that their players engage in, then the NBA can as well.
One league going over & beyond does not mean the other league failed because they used appropriate resources & the law enforcement failed.

I’m pretty consistent on the matter of sports leagues making decisions based on hearsay. Talk to the player & talk to law enforcement. Hell I’m not fond of punishing players who haven’t been convicted of anything.
 

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One league going over & beyond does not mean the other league failed because they used appropriate resources & the law enforcement failed.

I’m pretty consistent on the matter of sports leagues making decisions based on hearsay. Talk to the player & talk to law enforcement. Hell I’m not fond of punishing players who haven’t been convicted of anything.
Just because you aren't convicted of anything doesn't necessarily mean that you're innocent especially in the case of athletes who have money and resources that can easily pay off victims to keep quiet.

If you're sitting out due to pending investigation, then that should count for your suspension and shouldn't be double dipping. I do agree with that aspect.
 

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Just because you aren't convicted of anything doesn't necessarily mean that you're innocent especially in the case of athletes who have money and resources that can easily pay off victims to keep quiet.

If you're sitting out due to pending investigation, then that should count for your suspension and shouldn't be double dipping. I do agree with that aspect.
Players who been suspended & lost pay but later found to be not guilty or not charged. Do they typically get made whole?

Seems like the leagues can still punish them for bringing bad PR, No? Which is exactly why it’s a slippery slope not letting the legal process play out.
 

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Players who been suspended & lost pay but later found to be not guilty or not charged. Do they typically get made whole?

Seems like the leagues can still punish them for bringing bad PR, No? Which is exactly why it’s a slippery slope not letting the legal process play out.
That’s typically doesn’t happen because leagues wait until an investigation is done before levying punishment. The NFL puts players on the Non-Exempt List while waiting for the investigation to play out and they’re still getting paid in the process. It’s why Watson was still getting paid and didn’t get suspension until those court cases was settled.

Technically Bridges was still getting paid as well until he was suspended. You just couldn’t have him on the floor for obvious reasons.
 
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