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Yup. 100s of years later and we still have the same mentality that allowed the slave trade to pop off initially.

If they could some modern-day African leaders would sell their own people to obtain fighter jets, Swiss watches or free trips to London.
 
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Yup. 100s of years later and we still have the same mentality that allowed the slave trade to pop off initially.

Yes.

That same exact mentality is shown in the fact that the governments of africa (minus Ghana), TODAY, have refused to do anything tangible for us descendants of slavery in the diaspora.

When i bring this up, nikkas deflect and make excuses, just as they do when pointing out africa's role in the slave trade :snoop:
 

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:yeshrug: I've always looked at "Blacks sold other Blacks into slavery" as a made-up excuse from White trolls to blame someone else for slavery.

and the reality is that if White people acted fairly after slavery, we'd all be kumbaya now. It's weird how people ignore all the shyt that happened post-slavery that was, in many ways, the really offensive and generation-damaging shyt.

Focusing on "Africans sold other Africans" in light of all this shyt is mostly a distraction.

shyt... in The Holocaust, Jews sold out other Jews. And it's worth mentioning. But that doesn't negate the fact that Nazi Germany did 99% of the damage and that antisemitism, like racism, is a huge and real problem.

In the midst of discussion about The Holocaust, imagine a prominent Jewish scholar coming out the woodwork like: "but Jews sold other Jews tho" :deadmanny:

While it is a part of history, I agree with @satam55 its just an excuse really

If Im not mistaken a lot of slavery in Africa was from POW and debt and I remember learning that many times slaves were fed well and respected as long they did what they were told to do. Doesnt make it right, but...

Amerikan slavery is an extension of racism and white supremacy via chattel slavery. And the "slavery" argument is merely a deflection for the true extent of racism in Amerika. White people taught blacks to hate their African features in addition to instituting actual laws to keep blacks uneducated. They created these stereotypes and then enforced them to make these stereotypes true

So thats why I see it as apples and oranges

very true, and it is very much apples and oranges
 

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and the reality is that if White people acted fairly after slavery, we'd all be kumbaya now. It's weird how people ignore all the shyt that happened post-slavery that was, in many ways, the really offensive and generation-damaging shyt.

Focusing on "Africans sold other Africans" in light of all this shyt is mostly a distraction.

shyt... in The Holocaust, Jews sold out other Jews. And it's worth mentioning. But that doesn't negate the fact that Nazi Germany did 99% of the damage and that antisemitism, like racism, is a huge and real problem.

Jews do not continue to perpetuate the behavior that allowed them to be victimized. There lies the difference. No one is saying White people are not evil for what they did just that Black people engaged in behavior that allowed them to be victimized.

Like @MansaMusa said, many African leaders/elite would sell their people like gold and oil for riches in 2017 if they could. The mentality has not changed and we do not value our fellow human beings...probably the most valuable form of "capital" even though I hate reducing people to a value.
 
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Jews do not continue to perpetuate the behavior that allowed them to be victimized. There lies the difference. No one is saying White people are not evil for what they did just that Black people engaged in behavior that allowed them to be victimized.

Like @MansaMunsa said, many African leaders/elite would sell their people like gold and oil for riches in 2017 if they could. The mentality has not changed and we do not value our fellow human beings...probably the most valuable form of "capital" even though I hate reducing people to a value.

it hasn't changed because we're still oppressed on a global scale by White supremacy. That's the point.

If Jews were still being oppressed on a global scale by antisemitic forces, Jews would still be selling Jews

This isn't to excuse the behavior of the African elite. trust me, I know intimately about that bullshyt and I fukking hate it. I'm just saying that I understand it. I don't use their cowardice to judge my Black people as a whole. Every race has its snakes. Gotta adjust and move accordingly :yeshrug:
 

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Jews do not continue to perpetuate the behavior that allowed them to be victimized. There lies the difference. No one is saying White people are not evil for what they did just that Black people engaged in behavior that allowed them to be victimized.

Like @MansaMunsa said, many African leaders/elite would sell their people like gold and oil for riches in 2017 if they could. The mentality has not changed and we do not value our fellow human beings...probably the most valuable form of "capital" even though I hate reducing people to a value.

It gets even worse when you have these so called "Africanist" trying to justify by saying African slavery was not as bad...
 

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it hasn't changed because we're still oppressed on a global scale by White supremacy. That's the point.

I don't buy this at all. The behavior existed before Whites pulled up on the Western coast and finessed these kingdoms. Cacs are not responsible for our mental approach to business and our perception of our fellow man.
 

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I don't buy this at all. The behavior existed before Whites pulled up on the Western coast and finessed these kingdoms. Cacs are not responsible for our mental approach to business and our perception of our fellow man.

You sound :mjpls:

Of course cacs are responsible for our mental approach to business. Business is about economics/resources. If you have way less resources, it's gonna affect your approach to shyt :what:

Every single race on the planet has people who sell out their people in a heartbeat. Europeans slaughtered each other for centuries before deciding to literally team up and decimate other countries. So I dunno what you're talking about.
 

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You sound :mjpls:

Of course cacs are responsible for our mental approach to business. Business is about economics/resources. If you have way less resources, it's gonna affect your approach to shyt :what:

Every single race on the planet has people who sell out their people in a heartbeat. Europeans slaughtered each other for centuries before deciding to literally team up and decimate other countries. So I dunno what you're talking about.

No, every race did not sell their own people en masse for finished goods. Just.stop.this.lie.

And no, cacs are not responsible for Africans selling humans for commodities. Do you actually know anything about African history? You sound uninformed.
 

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I don't buy this at all. The behavior existed before Whites pulled up on the Western coast and finessed these kingdoms. Cacs are not responsible for our mental approach to business and our perception of our fellow man.
Like I said this is mostly a West African/Southern African thing due to both groups being naive due to isolation.
 

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No, every race did not sell their own people en masse for finished goods. Just.stop.this.lie.

What in the fukk are you talking about? The Chinese didn't sell their own people to North America and the West Indies?

And no, cacs are not responsible for Africans selling humans for commodities. Do you actually know anything about African history? You sound uninformed.

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Can someone other than Poitier vouch for dude? Am I about to have a long pointless convo with some troll? Something tells me he's been :troll: on this subject before.
 

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Like I said this is mostly a West African/Southern African thing due to both groups being naive due to isolation.

In the Peopling of Africa thread, I discuss how West Africa wasn't *that* isolated and participated in the Trans-Saharan slave trade for hundreds of years before the Trans-Atlantic trade eclipsed it.
 
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