PBS & Henry Louis Gates Team Up for Epic 6-Hour Documentary Series on Africa's Great Civilizations
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ThatTruth777
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I just don't like HLG. I caught a bit of this doc yesterday when he was covering Benin and it got to the part where they were discussing some of the art. The woman tells him about a piece that is suspected of being of an captured enemy and how it was made to make him look dignified and brave. HLG comes in with his own interpretation on some.. "yaah! they wuz like he brave and bad and all that but look who beat em up.. me that's who! who the man!" gotta "black" it up you know...
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Yea watching them White Almoravids race across the sahara to conquer spain was stomach turning
Its 2017 and these clowns are still playing this came. Especially when its agreed that the Sanhaja Berbers who were the FOUNDERS of the Almoravid dynasty origianted near the Senegal river which is basically near West Africa. Those type of Berbers would have been very dark since they were Saharan Berbers like Tuaregs. Unlike coastal Berbers there is no DOUBT that they would have been black. These clowns still ignore primary sources.Yea watching them White Almoravids race across the sahara to conquer spain was stomach turning
Grano-Grano
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Its 2017 and these clowns are still playing this came. Especially when its agreed that the Sanhaja Berbers who were the FOUNDERS of the Almoravid dynasty origianted near the Senegal river which is basically near West Africa. Those type of Berbers would have been very dark since they were Saharan Berbers like Tuaregs. Unlike coastal Berbers there is no DOUBT that they would have been black. These clowns still ignore primary sources.
Yeah I told you that this doc has flaws. Seen the light
Yeah, he trying too hard.
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The c00ns are thrilled a white sanctioned version of black history is finally being released. You fukks can thank Tariq for this.
I'll be watching with my third eye with this one...
Gates disgust me man. I couldn't even finish this
Yea watching them White Almoravids race across the sahara to conquer spain was stomach turning
yea that part was so disgusting I just had to fast forward through it.
Henry Louis Gates is the ultimate c00n in academia. I wonder how he can live with himself.
Yea watching them White Almoravids race across the sahara to conquer spain was stomach turning
I quit the series right then and there.
The Singularity
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I have hated every single documentary by HLJ. Why does this guy still keep getting new TV deals.
Over emphasis on Ethiopia in East Africa. No mention of Somalis and their Islamic kingdoms that conquered Solomonid Ethiopian kingdom. The lack of mention of Mogadishu and Zeila and the coastline and it's enormous merchant wealth it controlled in the middle ages. The repulsion of the Portuguese from the Horn coast by native Somali kingdom of Ajuran. It's started to disgust me when he lavishly praised Ethiopia for it's Christianity and failed to mention the rise of Somali Islamic kingdoms. If we talking about Lailbela, then let's also talk about Harar, the fourth holiest place of Islam in Africa founded by Somalis. A glance over Punt prominence in the ancient world. Etc., How you gonna talk about Islam in Africa when Somalia was the first African country to accept before the Berbers and North Africans. Sada Mire is bae tho
While I agree that Ethiopia's portrayal was super basic and once again overemphasized the Orthodox Christian element. You can't get mad knowing damn well HLG prolly ain't risking no trips to Somalia.
But overall it was a trash episode. No mention of the Jewish kingdoms of Ethiopia, the power struggle between the three faiths within the country, hell if you can't go to Somalia why not go to al Negash near Bahir Dar which was the landing site of the first Hijra? The complex nature of medieval Ethiopian society playing host to all 3 faiths and indigenous faiths as well. No Prester John. No Zara Yacob. To me, it basically put Islam in white face without acknowledging that the first converts and followers were Africans from the Horn and the East African coast which is absolute bullshyt. Mind you I'm just mentioning Ethiopian history, that doesn't take into account Adal and the other great Sultanates of the Somali coast.
I think the problem is that with the lack of excavation. The West needs grand structures and monuments in order to acknowledge something as high culture. It makes the telling about the history of the Horn this narrow showing of Ethiopia's more grand architectural landmarks without showing the deep interwoven nature of our region with regards to culture. Besides, the Horn existed and thrived before any of the Abrahamic faiths set foot on our soil. There was only a sentence, at best, dedicated to the land of Punt. Not to prop a cac over a black but Basil Davidson's Africa docs from the 70s shyt on this series even after all these years.
Me too. To me it's impossible to believe we were never connected. Too many cross purposes created more rigid divisions between us but at one point in the past Africans along the East coast up the Horn were one continuous interconnected civilization as you say and we controlled our own trade with the East prior to outside forces taking control.
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I keep telling people "The Land of Punt" was just a geographic term Egyptians used for East Africa from the Great Lakes up into the Horn.
The Singularity
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Finished watching the swahili part, it wasn't as bad as last HLG's previous Swahili documentary.