Honestly I get tired of people trying to address complex problems with simplistic narratives...
It's not even worthy of discussion anymore...
@bigDeeOT @theworldismine13 @DEAD7
You organizing a klan rally or something?
Paul Ryan says poverty is due to culture of not working in the innercities
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You organizing a klan rally or something?
they got it down in the culture. niccas ain't coming out of that hole... now just troll you that you're the problem.
ltheghost
Payin Debts.... N40
You know what....He needs to shut the fukk up. This racists bullshyt is tired and not even factual when the MAJORITY of the poor live in RURAL AREAS. fukk YOU PAUL RYAN, you non-relevant, Addam's Family reject, CAC! I get more than tired of this type of pandering from racist pieces of shyt who are currently living off of the tax payer. What makes him so fukking important that he can even say this type of shyt in front of a crowd of people. He hasn't done shyt in his life but lose. He hasn't passed shyt in Congress and got his ASS whooped by Joe Biden. Give me a break.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
It's so much more
http://afrodaddy.com/The-AfroBlog/10-corporate-and-government-policies-unfairly-punish-black-men
10 Corporate and Government Policies that Unfairly Punish Black Men
By Team Afro on Sun, 08/07/2011 - 18:42
In a previous post we talked about the Black-White Wealth Gap. In case you missed it there was an excellent video from Melissa Harris-Perry giving a very brief but effective overview of the some of the causes of the wealth gap and why blacks have been put at an unfair disadvantage. This post continues that discussion and explains in a little more detail why things are the way they are:
Why are there ghettos and why do so many blacks live there?
Why is black unemployment always twice the rate of white unemployment?
Why black youth graduation rates are so much lower than white youth?
Of course this post can not address all the reasons for our societal woes, but it is meant to give some insight into why the black community (and particularly black men) are at a disadvantage in 2011. When you know the history, pitfalls and traps of the system you can avoid them, survive and prosper.
Most of the ignorant discussion of African American history and its effects on contemporary society go something like this:
"Black people were brought here as slaves, Abraham Lincoln freed them during the civil war, blacks still discriminated against until Martin Luther King freed all the blacks during the Civil Rights movement. Everything has been equal after that so if black people don't have what other races have it must be because they are lazy, criminals, incapable or inept."
How many times have you heard this or a similar argument spouted by some racist, a Republican, or worse a teacher. Without your own proper information and knowledge you are forced to listen to this foolishness without much rebuttal. If you could just give them some concrete examples of the true damage that the past caused, how it shaped the neighborhoods of today and how policies over the past 40 years AFTER the Civil Rights movement have continued to maintain inequality in America. Well below are 10 concrete examples of government and corporate policies that perpetuate poverty and inequality in America. But first:
A brief and general history of the African American Experience 1776 - 1965
Certainly slavery created a situation where for 200 years most blacks in America amassed no wealth while simultaneously building the wealth of millions of white and other Americans. This head start in wealth building obviously put blacks at a major disadvantage. When blacks were freed as a result of the Civil War there was no real restitution, 40 acres and a mule was a cruel joke and blacks basically had to start from square negative 1. In 1876 Jim Crow took over where slavery ended, and the forced segregation of black and white through lynching, intimidation, beatings, etc. effectively created large centralized areas of blacks in less-than-desirable neighborhoods while whites bought property and built businesses in the nicest parts of America. Living on "the wrong side of the tracks" and being huddled into underfunded, undercapitalized areas created the ghettos of today. When white people left these city areas for the suburbs (see "white flight" and the Federal Highway Act of 1956) they took their capital and businesses with them and they did not allow blacks to follow. The result: by the 1960's you had the vast majority of blacks living in "inner city" ghettos or still in the south in rural areas without much industry or big business.
Beyond Civil Rights - What Happened After 1965?
So since the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 what has Corporate America and the government done to level the playing field for blacks? Certainly civil rights legislation made overt discrimination illegal and racism certainly is frowned upon today, but instead of outright racism we have moved into a situation where for the past 40 years corporate and government policies have systematically kept black people in disadvantageous situations and have not allowed for equal growth. For every Affirmative Action or "special program" designed to help African Americans there are multiple policies working against black advancement. Below are 10 such policies that unfairly impact black men, the black family structure and the black community..
10 Policies That Destroy Black Men and The Black Community
1. Redlining
Redlining is the practice employed by banks used to deny loans and services to people based on race or the racial composition of a neighborhood. It is called “redlining” because banks would draw a red line around an area and would deny loans or services to all people who live within the red boundary. Redlining has been primarily targeted at African Americans and there are many examples of low-income whites getting access to loans while middle and upper-class blacks are denied. Although redlining comes in many flavors the two most abusive and destructive to the black family and the black community have been redlining in the areas of housing and business. From the 1860s to the mid 1930s blatant racism and Jim Crow prevented blacks from moving into property-appreciating white neighborhoods. From 1935 (see History of Redlining) until the turn of the century redlining took the job over. Even after the civil rights legislation of the 1960s redlining was common practice with the major banks and persisted well into the 1990s. During this 150 year period whites were able to buy homes and watch their property values grow, while many blacks were forced to remain in less desirable neighborhoods where businesses and services were scarce, and property values were low. The result of this institutional racism was the maintenance of urban ghettos where blacks rent from rich whites or corporate owners or live in government sponsored housing. As home ownership is one of the top 4 ways to get rich in America it is no wonder that many blacks have not been able to build or grow wealth.
Corporate banks not only redlined blacks to keep them in the “hood”, they also used their policies to insure that many job-producing businesses could not be started there. The “line” drawn by banks around the inner city prevented blacks who lived there from getting loans to start businesses that could spark economic growth for the neighborhood and upward mobility for individuals. The result: lack of wealth building and upward mobility and joblessness, which leads to a lower tax base, lower property values, higher crime and of course, the widening of the black-white wealth gap. The banks effectively allowed the rich to get richer, the middle class to develop and forced the poor black family to stay poor.
Redlining in action: 1930s Philadelphia 1960s Chicago 1980s Atlanta
2. Supermarket Redlining
This could actually be called 1a as it deals with the same issue of the negative impact of financial institutions controlling neighborhood expansion. Supermarket Redlining (sometimes called "grocery store redlining") is the practice of mega supermarkets (think Safeway) that decide not to put supermarkets in lower-income neighborhoods in favor of rich neighborhoods where they think they will make more profits. This redlining leaves poor black communities without quality food and subsequently health problems (like diabetes, high blood pressure and obesity). Not only is health affected but the cost of groceries at liquor stores and convenience stores tend to be 200% higher or more, making the poor poorer. Trips 5 to 10 miles or more to get to Safeway cost gas, wear and tear on the car and lost time with family or from work. Although this redlining is done to increase profits, there is no evidence that supermarkets in rich areas make any more money than those in poor neighborhoods. For another perspective on supermarket redlining see this article at WhyHunger.org.
actually no it isnt, at the root of all the problems you mentioned is a lack of education and lack of skills and knowledge in the black community
Suicide King
#OldBlack
I love this guy.
The problem can be A + B = C. And he will argue only C matters plus lack of home ownership.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
yeah that is correct, you will never catch me cosigning a world view that places the destiny of black people on whether white people like me or not
i stopped fuking with that world view when i realized a lot that "racism" world view is itself based on deeply held unconscious white supremacy
NZA
LOL
the funny thing about a cac brain is that it will do whatever it needs to do to keep a stereotype alive. in my own lifetime mexicans have been referred to as both lazy and out to steal jobs. i dont know if either of these will change, or if they will just add more to it.
Suicide King
#OldBlack
I never believed it was about racism. It was always been about power and conquest.
We are talking about the status quo which has been around since knights and dragons.
We are talking about the system.
Which at the moment, is screwing over 80% of the U.S. population.
What do yall keep promoting these race baiting trolls when we are not their intended audience
notice a lot people in threads including the OP are ghost in the Dr. Claude Anderson joints
notice a lot people in threads including the OP are ghost in the Dr. Claude Anderson joints
ok got it, thanks! Learning is fun
I said this before but there was this black lady at my job who argued that the worst thing to happen to black folks was desegregation. She said during segregation we had no choice but to set up banks, shops and service centers in our communities. The money was recirculated and we were educating ourselves. Once segregation ended the smaller banks and business were forced to compete with the larger, more established business. This, along with discriminatory practices, led to decaying communities. While I don't agree with her I can now say I understand. It's a microscosm of how the imf and world bank destroy 3rd world countries by unfair loan practices that force them to compete on the global market.
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I cant believe Im saying this, but I mostly agree with Ryan's analytic. Now I was a lil uncomfortable the way he stressed value, and if he eliminated the residual effects of the overt discrimination from the past, combined with the institutional bias of today from his theoretic, i.e. there is something inherently wrong with black people, then he is making an implicitly racist argument...but it didnt sound like it since he encouraged a commitment from all Americans to fix the problem, versus hollow scapegoating, which is rare from a conservative.
Hes referencing human capital theory, or in sociological terms 'the cycle of poverty'. Black kids are not born into communities that are invested in their success, and instead are raised in disadvantaged social and economic positions on average. They have very little in the way of positive social and economic apparatuses to draw from. We know many black children are not born in household's where their potential is fostered and attainment is allowed to flourish...this negatively affects what is called "psychological externalities", where children start to develop a cynical outlook on their place and potential location in this world, and act dysfunctionally in greater proportion because of it.
This is a primary source for why our communities lag economically. Combine this with racial resentment from the dominant class, and their futures are determined. Lil timmy white boy goes on company family picnics, is introduced to positive networks and social peers, and is groomed to be a productive citizen. We KNOW this is not the average ethnographic experience of the black child.
Hes referencing human capital theory, or in sociological terms 'the cycle of poverty'. Black kids are not born into communities that are invested in their success, and instead are raised in disadvantaged social and economic positions on average. They have very little in the way of positive social and economic apparatuses to draw from. We know many black children are not born in household's where their potential is fostered and attainment is allowed to flourish...this negatively affects what is called "psychological externalities", where children start to develop a cynical outlook on their place and potential location in this world, and act dysfunctionally in greater proportion because of it.
This is a primary source for why our communities lag economically. Combine this with racial resentment from the dominant class, and their futures are determined. Lil timmy white boy goes on company family picnics, is introduced to positive networks and social peers, and is groomed to be a productive citizen. We KNOW this is not the average ethnographic experience of the black child.