PartIcipating in a gang is some of the most c00n shyt you could do

[charmander]

and as far as people sayin "well people don't choose to join gangs, they're left with no options due to their environment etc etc"

yeah maybe

but literally every single person in my area i know that's in a gang willingly chose to do that

they was lining up like it was a fukkin job fair to claim a set and start soowoopin and crippin and throwin forks up nikkas prepare for they initiations like the SATs and shyt like it's the biggest day of their life

 

[b_low_brown]

and as far as people sayin "well people don't choose to join gangs, they're left with no options due to their environment etc etc"

yeah maybe

but literally every single person in my area i know that's in a gang willingly chose to do that

they was lining up like it was a fukkin job fair to claim a set and start soowoopin and crippin and throwin forks up nikkas prepare for they initiations like the SATs and shyt like it's the biggest day of their life

Thank you. Atleast from my perspective, most who got at that life willingly signed up. These are the people I'm addressing when I say "participate". They exist to this day and we need to either find a solution to gangs or a solution to the socioeconomic climate that spawned them.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

So is calling each other nikka.. if we gonna have this discussion let's not half step

I'm not talking to literally everyone in a gang when I say it's c00ning, just the ones who glamorize the lifestyle, think killing makes them
Hard & think guns drugs and hoes is all there is to life. They are exactly where the white supremacists want them & that falls under c00n in my book.

How does using a term of endearment equal to thug or c00n? Also if you have a kid who is living day to day and doesn't expect to live past a certain age, why would he think there's more to life than guns, drugs, and hoes? That's his reality. When you haven't been exposed to much and all you know is the street life how is that c00ning?

 

[AlainLocke]

How does using a term of endearment equal to thug or c00n? Also if you have a kid who is living day to day and doesn't expect to live past a certain age, why would he think there's more to life than guns, drugs, and hoes? That's his reality. When you haven't been exposed to much and all you know is the street life how is that c00ning?

People that think you just gonna wake up one day and pull yourself from your boot straps aren't realistic whatsoever about the socioeconomic forces that govern day to day life of human beings.

 

[b_low_brown]

How does using a term of endearment equal to thug or c00n? Also if you have a kid who is living day to day and doesn't expect to live past a certain age, why would he think there's more to life than guns, drugs, and hoes? That's his reality. When you haven't been exposed to much and all you know is the street life how is that c00ning?

It's used as a term of endearment only half
The time. Don't play silly here. Which comedian was it that outlined the difference between black people and "nikkas"?


You don't have to tap dance on stage for massa to be c00ning. Killing your own & planning to die young is tap dancing on its own regard. Thats what they WANT from us. Poor image, low self esteem, depressed and angry.

 

[RichieRich]

Problem I have with this convo is the focusing on the effect and not the cause.

There is levels to it and dismissing it without looking at the big picture is not helping solve anything

 

[b_low_brown]

People that think you just gonna wake up one day and pull yourself from your boot straps aren't realistic whatsoever about the socioeconomic forces that govern day to day life of human beings.

People like you that think a disdain for gangs = thinking people can change their situation overnight is silly. Those ideas aren't mutually exclusive and never will be.

 

[b_low_brown]

Problem I have with this convo is the focusing on the effect and not the cause.

There is levels to it and dismissing it without looking at the big picture is not helping solve anything

Oh we can make a thread on what's taking so long for positive legislation to pass in Chicago and everywhere else still dealing with issues. That's the next chat

You can look at the branches, that's all we see first.. what matters is that we get down to the roots.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Purposefully dividing the people who look like you?

Killing other blacks and not getting a dime or a pat on the back from the white supremacists who allow legislation leading to those circumstances

Automatically having issues with someone cause of the color they wear

I don't get why in 2016 gang members still are seen as "hard" by some of y'all

& don't sit here and try to exaggerate the family aspect of gangs, I understand a lot of gang members come from broken families looking for acceptance. My point is that same acceptance can be gained from an all black frat, HBCUS.. something, ANYTHING more productive than gang life.

You're out of touch

 

[Turk]

and as far as people sayin "well people don't choose to join gangs, they're left with no options due to their environment etc etc"

yeah maybe

but literally every single person in my area i know that's in a gang willingly chose to do that

they was lining up like it was a fukkin job fair to claim a set and start soowoopin and crippin and throwin forks up nikkas prepare for they initiations like the SATs and shyt like it's the biggest day of their life

Ain't you from ATL? Gang shyt is different everywhere

 

[Kenny West]

I'm not sure what logic you are using to get to this conclusion...

If white dudes were living in the same impovershed, violent, all black neighborhood that I was living in at the time, are you suggesting that they would have been able to rob black people no one would have done shyt to them???


Is that seriously what you are saying?

you added in a bunch of details. I said what I said. I don't even remember you mentioning that the dude who stole lived in the same neighborhood.

In any case I stand by what I said. As long as their target was black I'm sure they had no second thoughts.

Im not defending it or honoring it. Im just saying that I understand. I live in one of the most dangerous cities in the country and we dont even have a gang problem. Why do gangs exist in places like Chicago and LA in the first place? Why are disadvantaged kids who lack guidance joining gangs?

Because they think it's cool. That's all it is. There are millions of people with the same lot in life who don't choose that path. The majority of people on this fukking planet are poor and disadvantaged yet are not gangbangers. And on the flipside I personally know black people who were NOT born into those conditions who participate in the shyt. I know kids who got everything they wanted on christmas and have weekly allowances who sell weed and pills just to say that they "trap" or to impress some bytches. I know suburban nikkas who had full time jobs get put in the pen for robbery. Grown men who drive to their corporate office in the morning and tweet "omw to the trap"


All this and nikkas wonder why a 13 year old black kid probably 20 minutes away from a university can't fathom college yet poor african kids millions of miles from american soil can. My main beef isn't with the bangers themselves, those nikkas are lost and are squandering their own future. It's the nikkas who glorify the shyt, the bytches who think it's cute and the notion that this shyt is unquestionably "black". That's what influences these kids. They know they won't get the same level of respect saying they wanna be a firefighter or lawyer than they would a d-boy so the other shyt doesn't even register as an option. Maybe they know they're more likely to be called a uncle tom if they do any honest profession but will be black without question if they thuggin. Yall (as grown folks) are to blame for this.

 

[AlainLocke]

People like you that think a disdain for gangs = thinking people can change their situation overnight is silly. Those ideas aren't mutually exclusive and never will be.

You literally said that killing people over colors is stupid...really reduced the history and reason for gangs to wearing colors...

Then said they can do better things...

But they are living in abject poverty and need protection and source of income.

Your disdain for gangs is rooted in a simple minded middle class mindset.

"Well isn't their better things to do? Why they kill each other over colors? Why don't just join the Boys and Girls Club?"

 

[Gold]

you added in a bunch of details. I said what I said. I don't even remember you mentioning that the dude who stole lived in the same neighborhood.

In any case I stand by what I said. As long as their target was black I'm sure they had no second thoughts.

Who do you think robs from other people in poor neighborhoods??

I'm gonna leave this thread, ya'll got it

 

[b_low_brown]

You literally said that killing people over colors is stupid...really reduced the history and reason for gangs to wearing colors...

Killing people over colors IS stupid. I stand by my statement. And No, I didn't reduce the history or reason of a goddamn thing. I can be aware of the past and still be aware of the issues of present.

Then said they can do better things...

Are you suggesting they can't?

But they are living in abject poverty and need protection and source of income.


Your disdain for gangs is rooted in a simple minded middle class mindset.

My disdain for gangs is rooted in exhaustion of seeing my own family engage in an unnecessary act. None of them NEEDED a gang for shyt. You have to accept that while many find necessity in that lifestyle, many don't.

"Well isn't their better things to do? Why they kill each other over colors? Why don't just join the Boys and Girls Club?"

This is a terrible breakdown of my argument and I'm starting to think you aren't even sure what point you're trying to make.

 

[#SOG_soldier]

Nah nikka it's politics , oh this nikka killed my uncle even though he not a banger well it's on sight That's the mentality most bangers have , you take mine I take yours Most bangers nowadays just talk shyt about the opps on social media and get chin checked at McDonalds

Lil kyro from no limit got his jaw broke by then lakeside savages