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Parkland, FL School Shooting Possibly Still Active
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What's funny is let him be trained by some Black folks and watch the entire and their kids get life if he was Black
Black people believe whatever white daddy tells them to believe on average. White daddy mad at Tariq, I am mad at him too.
The same reason a lot of us don't call anybody when we think someone is capable of something but hasn't done it. The same reason we don't call anybody when someone is doing dirt. Minding your own business isn't peculiar to Black folks.
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BaileyPark31
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MikeyC
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First of all, It's the Daily Mail. Them disagreeing with me is a positive.
Secondly, that article is nearly 10 years old
And finally, this:
Like @Blessed Is the Man said, apples and oranges.
shyt, ban all guns then, not just rifles.
BaileyPark31
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Theres about 10 states in the Midwest they could just move too, but they rather waste their time trying to make Florida a white ethno state
these people really are stupid.
The white supremacists y'all
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You're doing nothing but parroting talking points from political parties (right-wing). You haven't proven your point that the UK has a higher rate of violent crime than the US. You claimed: "reports that give a much more in depth analysis of violent crime, such as in the US vs the UK" - you have yet to produce those reports. And no, an [outdated] reddit post is not a detailed report. He also falls into the same category of ignoring the different terminology/methods the UK uses when reporting vs the US. He got taken to task in his own thread. Did you even bother to read the entire thread? That's also a pro-gun sub-reddit - a biased, second-hand source - something you just condemned. You also complained about the information being outdated, then posted an outdated source. And I don't buy that you don't know Ben Swann - you're using exactly the same argument.
Can you post those in depth analysis - those detailed reports, already?
You used the Daily Mail? You're full of shyt. That you would use that link tells me everything I need to know about you and your motives. Edit: looks like I was wrong; that's where Ben lifted his argument.
2. “In the UK there are 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people. …The US has a violent crime rate of 466 [violent] crimes per 100,000 residents.”
Some advice for Mr. Swann: when you see statistics that look unbelievable, you probably shouldn’t believe them, at least until you dig deeper into the data. Based on these figures, it appears that Britain is over 4 times more violent than the US, and since this is all he gives you, that is exactly what he leads his viewers to believe.
What Swann either doesn’t know, or simply doesn’t bother to tell his viewers, is that the definitions for “violent crime” are very different in the US and Britain, and the methodologies of the two statistics he cites are also different. (He probably simply doesn’t realize this: it appears that he lifted his data wholesale from a story in the Daily Mail, without checking it–something you might expect a fact checker to have done.)
First, it should be noted that the figures Swann gives are out of date: in 2010, according to the FBI, the reported rate of violent crime in the US was 403 incidents per 100,000 people–the 466 figure comes from 2007. Second, and more importantly, the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports defines a “violent crime” as one of four specific offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault.
The British Home Office, by contrast, has a substantially different definition of violent crime. The British definition includes all “crimes against the person,” including simple assaults, all robberies, and all “sexual offenses,” as opposed to the FBI, which only counts aggravated assaults and “forcible rapes.”
When you look at how this changes the meaning of “violent crime,” it becomes clear how misleading it is to compare rates of violent crime in the US and the UK. You’re simply comparing two different sets of crimes. In 2009/10, for instance (annual data is from September to September), British police recorded 871,712 crimes against persons, 54,509 sexual offenses, and 75,101 robberies in England and Wales. Based on the 2010 population of 55.6 million, this gives a staggeringly high violent crime rate of 1,797 offenses per 100,00 people.
But of the 871,000 crimes against the person, less than half (401,000) involved any actual injury. The remainder were mostly crimes like simple assault without injury, harassment, “possession of an article with a blade or point,” and causing “public fear, alarm, or distress.” And of the 54,000 sexual offenses, only a quarter (15,000) were rapes. This makes it abundantly clear that the naive comparison of crime rates either wildly overstates the amount of violence in the UK or wildly understates it in the US.
Due to fundamental differences in how crime is recorded and categorized, it’s impossible to compute exactly what the British violent crime rate would be if it were calculated the way the FBI does it, but if we must compare the two, my best estimate‡ would be something like 776 violent crimes per 100,000 people. While this is still substantially higher than the rate in the United States, it’s nowhere near the 2,034 cited by Swann and the Mail.
America has a much higher murder rate than other OECD countries, including Great Britain.
Besides the misleading data Swann used, it’s interesting to note the statistics he didn’t give you. For instance, Swann correctly pointed out that it is no surprise the UK has fewer shooting deaths than the US, since handguns are almost totally banned. But he neglects to mention that Britain doesn’t just have fewer gun-related homicides–it has a dramatically lower murder rate all around. In 2010, the US had an average murder rate of 4.8 murders per 100,000 people—4 times higher than the UK’s rate of 1.2 per 100,000, and, coincidentally, the exact opposite of the impression that Swann gives viewers.
Violent crime in the UK has been in decline since 1995
And it’s also worth noting that while Swann implied that the UK is more violent than the US because of its handgun ban, violent crime has been declining in Britain since the mid-1990s, and it continued to do so without interruption after the 1997 Firearms Amendment went into effect. Meanwhile, in the United States, gun ownership has been falling steadily, even as the US experienced the same sharp decline in violence beginning in early ‘90s.
None of this disproves the “more guns, less crime” hypothesis (though the statistical evidence on whether gun ownership directly affects local crime rates, up or down, appears to be a wash), nor does it make any of the gun control proposals currently being debated any more attractive. What it does mean is that Swann’s argument here is disingenuous, factually inaccurate, and fundamentally flawed. At best, he is giving gun enthusiasts bad reasons to support the Second Amendment when perfectly good reasons are already available. By spreading myths, distorting data, and exaggerating the case, Ben Swann is doing libertarians and Second Amendment advocates a disservice.
This makes all your pompousness even more hilarious.
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Mental health is not what makes America uniquely vulnerable to gun violence. As my colleague Dylan Matthews explained, people with mental illnesses are more likely to be victims, not perpetrators, of violence. And Michael Stone, a psychiatrist at Columbia University who maintains a database of mass shooters, wrote in a 2015 analysisthat only 52 out of the 235 killers in the database, or about 22 percent, were mentally ill. “The mentally ill should not bear the burden of being regarded as the ‘chief’ perpetrators of mass murder,” Stone concluded. Other research has backed this up
Trump’s Florida shooting speech was one giant lie by omission
Americans have a gun problem.
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But this isn't black folks at the school. White folks stay screaming for anything a minority does.
