Paging Phil Jackson, Got Another Team For You To Leach On

[seemorecizzy]

99.99 percent of coaches that won titles had at least 2 HOF on their team.

The Pistons were the one exception to the rule.

billups will be in hall of fame
wallace might be too

 

[iPod Raheem 2.0]

Media got folks fooled. Most people get their opinion spoon fed to them

John Wooden is celebrated for his 5011 championships even though he had the some of the greatest collegiate players of all times who went on to be NBA hof'ers

On the other hand, Phil Jackson is looked down upon for leading great players to multiple championships.....

Strange world we live in nowadays

Interesting comparison...

But as far as I know both are celebrated. Coach Wooden is considered one of the greatest collegiate basketball coaches. Phil is considered one of the greatest NBA coaches.

A fundamental difference, though...

Wooden brought great players to UCLA. He built the program. Meanwhile, Phil isn't really building any kind of program. shyt is already built. Phil just walks into situations where great players are already there. In fact, he seeks out coaching jobs where the very best players are already there.

 

[seemorecizzy]

Name another coach who has had the talent that Phil has had. I'll wait.

And I'm not saying he doesn't deserve some credit. You'll just have to excuse me for not groveling at his feet when this nikka has had a MJ and a Kobe at his disposal for his entire coaching career.

Sure not everyone can do what he's done in the same situation. You mention two good examples. I just can't respect it, anymore. And I'm gon hate.

Why won't this nikka go challenge himself and coach the Bobcats?

it takes more den talent to win championships
i cant believe ppl are still tryin to discredit phil's success
you really think any coach could handle jordan pippen and rodman's egos and bring out da best in dem?

you really think any coach could handle kobe and shaq's egos and their beef?
9 coaches outta 10 couldnt deal with it

"there's more to do a war then just gettin it on"

 

[iPod Raheem 2.0]

Del Harris, Doug Collings, and wait for it....wait for it......

Dunleavy and Rick Adelman...




anticipates irrational feedback from people born after 1991

I know we're not going to act like Scottie and Kobe were Scottie and Kobe when Doug and Del had them...are we?

 

[iPod Raheem 2.0]

it takes more den talent to win championships
i cant believe ppl are still tryin to discredit phil's success
you really think any coach could handle jordan pippen and rodman's egos and bring out da best in dem?

you really think any coach could handle kobe and shaq's egos and their beef?
9 coaches outta 10 couldnt deal with it

"there's more to do a war then just gettin it on"

Phil definitely has exhibited some skill doing what he's done. I just can't worship the nikka as some coaching gawd when he's had players in their prime like MJ, Pippen, Rodman, Shaq, Kobe, Malone ()

 

[iPod Raheem 2.0]

nikka said, "I'll wait," like Phil is the only coach to have talent.

What about Jeff Van Gundy and Pat Riley in NY.

George Karl in Seattle, AND Denver.

nikka else who has had teams w/ Kobe and Shaq in their prime?

Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman in their prime?

fukking Van Gundy, Riley, and Karl???

 

[Hater]

@WojYahooNBA

Jim Cleamons and Kurt Rambis - longtime Phil Jackson aides - are ready to re-join Jax on bench should he return to Lakers, sources tell Y!

 

[HHR]

 

[Higher Tech]

nikka else who has had teams w/ Kobe and Shaq in their prime?

Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman in their prime?

fukking Van Gundy, Riley, and Karl???

Collins had the same team that Phil took to 3 championships.

Del Harris had Shaq in his prime and Kobe one year before his... oh yea, the year Phil took over.

Jeff Van Gundy didn't have a monster squad in New York

George Karl didn't have a monster squad in Seattle?

Pat Riley didn't have a monster squad in Miami and New York?

 

[courtdog]

Brown out, Phil in?

Los Angeles Lakers need to bring Phil Jackson back now - ESPN Los Angeles

Phil Jackson open to NBA coaching return, sources say - ESPN Los Angeles



Phil was my dude in Chicago, but I can't let this ride, anymore

This nikka is the zen master in leaching NBA championships

This nikka can't win a ship w/o 2-3 HOFs

12th ring would be the most tainted if re-ups with the Lakers, again Assuming LA makes the playoffs this year

On the real, do y'all respect this?

Yeah, I'd respect him more if he could make the Wizards champions again
Bradley B can be his Jordan. Booker can be Pippen. Wall can be the piece he never had. Phil will be like He never needed a dominant DHoward type center when he was fine with bill wennington/bison dalay/horace grant
Nene & Seraphin can easily handle all that
Where beal lacks in Jordan'esk, we improve in every other area


Come on phil, do it. Doooooo it

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I know we're not going to act like Scottie and Kobe were Scottie and Kobe when Doug and Del had them...are we?

Does the hoe make the pimp or the pimp make the hoe..

In other words, is it nature or nurture...

Did Scotty and Kobe come into their own, on their own, or did it take great coaching to manifest these 2 to greatness?

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Interesting comparison...

But as far as I know both are celebrated. Coach Wooden is considered one of the greatest collegiate basketball coaches. Phil is considered one of the greatest NBA coaches.

A fundamental difference, though...

Wooden brought great players to UCLA. He built the program. Meanwhile, Phil isn't really building any kind of program. shyt is already built. Phil just walks into situations where great players are already there. In fact, he seeks out coaching jobs where the very best players are already there.

You're right. In all honesty, they are both celebrated..but John Wooden gets no negative backlash at all from the media..


I hear you about the NBA vs College comparison, but prior to about 1995, college basketball was a financial\entertainment juggernaut for the NCAA...

In other words, it was a much higher quality product than what you are seeing today..

Couple the beginning of integration, buying players, and major media exposure together and you have what UCLA was then, as opposed to what Bama is now in college football.

It was perfect timing to get all the great players, for a great coach, at the right school.....

 

[Higher Tech]

I know we're not going to act like Scottie and Kobe were Scottie and Kobe when Doug and Del had them...are we?

All it took was a coach to put them in the right spots. How does a player reach championship potential the same year as the new coach gets there?

You really think Phil didn't turn these dudes into champs?

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

5 games in the season though? Yall think the team is to blame or Brown?

Management actually. The Lakeshow management is great, but I always felt like Brown was not the right fit.

If the Lakeshow was rebuilding, or down in the dumps, then Brown would have made more sense.

 

[iPod Raheem 2.0]

Does the hoe make the pimp or the pimp make the hoe..

In other words, is it nature or nurture...

Did Scotty and Kobe come into their own, on their own, or did it take great coaching to manifest these 2 to greatness?

Hoeing is pimping

Seriously, I think it's a combo of sorts. I'm not trying to discredit Phil completely. I just think he's overrated a bit. And I lean toward giving the players credit for their success. I think Pippen and Kobe would've been great with different coaches.

You're right. In all honesty, they are both celebrated..but John Wooden gets no negative backlash at all from the media..


I hear you about the NBA vs College comparison, but prior to about 1995, college basketball was a financial\entertainment juggernaut for the NCAA...

In other words, it was a much higher quality product than what you are seeing today..

Couple the beginning of integration, buying players, and major media exposure together and you have what UCLA was then, as opposed to what Bama is now in college football.

It was perfect timing to get all the great players, for a great coach, at the right school.....

Also that's when players stayed in school all four years. I think there was something special about how Wooden coached that was different than how Phil coached. Wooden's perspective was bigger than basketball. He presented as a coach that wasn't consumed with just winning championships. He was more focused on how you go about winning championships by doing the little things right, and beyond that how you conduct yourself off the basketball court by doing the little things right.