Pacquiao vs Mayweather Official Thread...May 2nd!!!

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

http://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-skips-sparring-more-ped-testing--89551

Manny Pacquiao Skips Sparring After More PED Testing
Posted by: Ronnie Nathanielsz on 4/9/2015 .

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By Ronnie Nathanielsz

The pride of the Philippines, eight division world champion Manny Pacquiao skipped sparring for the second day in a row and only went jogging at Pan Pacific Park yesterday morning.

ABS-CBN reporter Dyan Castillejo told the BoxingScene.com/New Standard that Pacquiao was in the Wild Card Gym of trainer Freddie Roach when the US Anti Doping Agency technicians showed up and “extracted four vials of blood” as part of the random drug tests that both Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr are being subjected to.

Dr. Ed de la Vega, who is well-known for his excellent mouth-guards, brought a supply for Pacquiao which cost nowhere near the $25,000 mouthguards specially manufactured for Mayweather.

Top Rank publicist Fred Sternberg told us that after the USADA people took Pacquiao’s blood and urine “he didn’t seem like he wanted to train” but emphasized there is nothing to worry about because “he was faster than anybody” during his morning run and “looks great and is in terrific shape.”

Former NBA superstar Karl “The Mailman” Malone of the Utah Jazz paid Pacquiao a visit at the gym and wished him all the best in his May 2 showdown against Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Pacquiao’s adviser Michael Koncz told us “no interviews at this time please” even as Pacquiao himself and trainer Roach also declined to give interviews to Filipino journalists who waited at the gym and later outside Pacquiao’s home.

Thanks breh

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

4 vials IS alot though.

Depends on how big the vials are and if they actually took four vials or not. Asuming they did take 4 vials and If it's the large vials they are about 10 ml (most common vials if I'm not mistaken are 3-5 ml though ) so 4 would be 40ml.

For comparison when one donates blood they take 400 to 500 ml

 

[TheNig]

Just because side B run they mouth non stop
And side A keeps quiet for the most part
It doesn't mean side b is telling the truth

Arum and roach have been caught In multiple lies over the last month alone
I thought everyone caught on by now

Uh-oh... it's a Floyd thread. You know he came to cape. Where's that other lady-boy?

 

[LeVraiPapi]

They dont hide results.


We've all went over this before. Morales/Garcia, Broner/DeMarco, Winky/Quillin, Lance Armstrong, Floyd Mayweather...all those messed up drug testing by USADA. I almost forgot working with Memo Heredia from his own mouth....Im cool on em

lol. you a good dude so I take it as if you just don't know lol

Dude USADA is known worldwide.

Go look up what VADA does and what it stands for. VADA is is not OSDT breh, they are a voluntary drug testing program with less tests. You can't refuse USADA. Ask Usain Bolt and Serena. So you're telling me the USOC and all the major leagues decide not to go for the better, more efficient testing in VADA but went with USADA ? You're telling me the Olympians are using the wrong organization purposefully? Bro, Lance was not juicing bro. He was getting blood exchanges so a high level of Hgb/Hct is not a red flag since he's also a cancer patient. Just like most people with SCD (sickle cell disease) have a low Hgb and they are normally maintaining their daily life


I will tell you again VADA is Vegas based and USADA is international amigo. Cheating for Floyd would jeopardize their rep and money bro

 

[Black_Jesus]

4 vials IS alot though.

its bullshyt to me... but if its 2009.. you're the A side with a belt...and the titleless b side demands you undergo these intrusive bloodtests to fight them.. and you refuse, you must be hiding something.... right??

 

[LeVraiPapi]

4 vials IS alot though.

it's not lol. The context is not bottles and amount they can contain. It's about which vials can run what test and some need maybe 3-8 ccs at most. Then again if they were all SST bottles or red/gray tiger tops, you don't need that much since the blood will clot to run tests. Even if they were all full, that's only 40 ccs of blood, that's nothing bro. I have sick people who can't even lift a limb given 4 vials every 6 hours and they're okay. What Pac's camp is doing is very unprofessional and they really don't wanna piss USADA off

That's where I would leave it

 

[TheNig]

it's not lol. The context is not bottles and amount they can contain. It's about which vials can run what test and some need maybe 3-8 ccs at most. Then again if they were all SST bottles or red/gray tiger tops, you don't need that much since the blood will clot to run tests. Even if they were all full, that's only 40 ccs of blood, that's nothing bro. I have sick people who can't even lift a limb given 4 vials every 6 hours and they're okay. What Pac's camp is doing is very unprofessional and they really don't wanna piss USADA off

That's where I would leave it

No argument here. My complaint would be if Floyd's test aren't as extensive. Even though these test for Manny aren't necessarily extensive.


They both have their strengths and weaknesses in the ring but when it comes to these outside factors, I want the fight to be as even as humanly possible.

 

[Newzz]

lol. you a good dude so I take it as if you just don't know lol

Dude USADA is known worldwide.

Go look up what VADA does and what it stands for. VADA is is not OSDT breh, they are a voluntary drug testing program with less tests. You can't refuse USADA. Ask Usain Bolt and Serena. So you're telling me the USOC and all the major leagues decide not to go for the better, more efficient testing in VADA but went with USADA ? You're telling me the Olympians are using the wrong organization purposefully? Bro, Lance was not juicing bro. He was getting blood exchanges so a high level of Hgb/Hct is not a red flag since he's also a cancer patient. Just like most people with SCD (sickle cell disease) have a low Hgb and they are normally maintaining their daily life


I will tell you again VADA is Vegas based and USADA is international amigo. Cheating for Floyd would jeopardize their rep and money bro

We are talking about Boxing. No Boxer takes OSDT when it comes to drug tests except 2 (Nonito Donaire and Edwin Rodriguez) and bringing up the Olympics has nothing to do with the facts I presented to you breh. Again, maybe you should look into those situations I posted to you....all fukked up situations in PROFESSIONAL BOXING between USADA and the fighters.


Secondly, Lance was not juicing? Then you just threw the USADA under the bus, because they claim he was.

USADA releases massive evidence vs. Lance Armstrong
Brent Schrotenboer, USA TODAY Sports 12:05 a.m. EDT October 11, 2012



The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency on Wednesday released its evidence against Lance Armstrong – a massive dossier of more than 1,000 pages with sworn testimony from 26 people, including 15 cyclists with knowledge of Armstrong's doping activities on the U.S. Postal Service Cycling team.

The evidence includes testimony from cyclist George Hincapie, a longtime close associate of Armstrong's who on Wednesday admitted his role in the doping conspiracy and said he told investigators what he knew about others.

"I would have been much more comfortable talking only about myself, but understood that I was obligated to tell the truth about everything I knew. So that is what I did," Hincapie's statement said.

In a statement, USADA chief executive Travis Tygart said, "The evidence shows beyond any doubt that the US Postal Service Pro Cycling Team ran the most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that sport has ever seen."

USADA DOCUMENT: Read the entire case against Lance Armstrong
INSIDE DETAILS: Key evidence in the USADA's case

USADA said the evidence includes "direct documentary evidence including financial payments, emails, scientific data and laboratory test results that further prove the use, possession and distribution of performance enhancing drugs by Lance Armstrong and confirm the disappointing truth about the deceptive activities of the USPS Team, a team that received tens of millions of American taxpayer dollars in funding."

Eleven Armstrong teammates testified against him, including six active riders who were given six-month suspensions for their own doping: Hincapie, Frankie Andreu, Michael Barry, Tom Danielson, Tyler Hamilton, Floyd Landis, Levi Leipheimer, Stephen Swart, Christian Vande Velde, Jonathan Vaughters and David Zabriskie.

"Together these different categories of eyewitness, documentary, first-hand, scientific, direct and circumstantial evidence reveal conclusive and undeniable proof that brings to the light of day for the first time this systemic, sustained and highly professionalized team-run doping conspiracy," USADA said.

USADA posted the detailed evidence on its website Wednesday.

PHOTO GALLERY: Key players in the Armstrong case

Hincapie's statement acknowledged that he had cheated.

"Early in my professional career, it became clear to me that, given the widespread use of performance enhancing drugs by cyclists at the top of the profession, it was not possible to compete at the highest level without them. I deeply regret that choice and sincerely apologize to my family, teammates and fans," Hincapie wrote.

In a statement, Armstrong attorney Tim Herman attacked the credibility of USADA's case.

"Tygart's statement confirms the alleged 'reasoned decision' from USADA will be a one-sided hatchet job -- a taxpayer-funded tabloid piece rehashing old, disproved, unreliable allegations based largely on axe-grinders, serial perjurers, coerced testimony, sweetheart deals and threat-induced stories," Herman wrote.

On Wednesday night, Armstrong tweeted, "What am I doing tonight? Hanging with my family, unaffected, and thinking about this.." followed by a link to his Livestrong Foundation's web site.
USADA released the report as required by its decision in August to give Armstrong a lifetime ban and strip him of his seven titles in the Tour de France. In June, the agency formally accused Armstrong and other team officials of using banned drugs and blood transfusions to gain an edge in competition over several years.

By rule, USADA was mandated by the World Anti-Doping Code to deliver a detailed report on its decision to the interested parties, which include the World Anti-Doping Agency and the athlete's international federation.

In this case, the Armstrong's international federation for cycling is the International Cycling Union (UCI). After receiving the report, UCI has 21 days to appeal the Armstrong sanctions. If an appeal is lodged, the matter will go to arbitration at the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Switzerland.

UCI previously has been critical of USADA's case against Armstrong, questioning whether he received his due process. UCI also questioned the fairness of making deals with other riders to testify against Armstrong in exchange for less severe punishment for doping.

USADA shot back at UCI and accused the organization of having a lackluster record on doping and a cozy relationship with Armstrong. In "The Secret Race," the recent book by cyclist Tyler Hamilton, the author alleges Armstrong worked with UCI to have a positive drug test covered up at the Tour of Switzerland in 2001.

Armstrong could have fought USADA's charges by going to arbitration in front of a three-person panel, with one panelist picked by both sides and the other selected by the other two. But he claimed the process as "rigged" against him and announced in August he would no longer fight the charges.

He maintained his innocence, saying he never failed a drug test.

USADA noted that Armstrong's team used sophisticated techniques to avoid testing positive and that there is no test for blood transfusions.

In a letter sent to USADA on Tuesday, Armstrong's attorney, Herman, said that some of the witnesses against the cyclist are "serial perjurers."


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...a-reasoned-decision-teammates-doping/1624551/

Now, my problem isnt that they CAUGHT him....because they did and he's since admitted he was taking PEDs the whole time





My problem is they caught him back in 2009 or 2010 and didnt report until 2012. That's always the case with them and I would rather a cheater gets exposed ASAP.

It's personal preference when it comes to VADA vs USADA. I favor VADA when it comes to Professional Boxing and WADA over all period

 

[Rev]

has this video been posted? love 78sports

 

[Newzz]

it's not lol. The context is not bottles and amount they can contain. It's about which vials can run what test and some need maybe 3-8 ccs at most. Then again if they were all SST bottles or red/gray tiger tops, you don't need that much since the blood will clot to run tests. Even if they were all full, that's only 40 ccs of blood, that's nothing bro. I have sick people who can't even lift a limb given 4 vials every 6 hours and they're okay. What Pac's camp is doing is very unprofessional and they really don't wanna piss USADA off

That's where I would leave it

Do you need 4 vials of blood to check for PEDs?


I just did my yearly HIV test and a Hepetitis B test last Monday and only gave 2 vials.


At the end of the day though, you're defending the numbers, but we arent arguing that. The main question from @Mr. Leonidas was why isnt Floyd being tested as well?

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

wait wait..update me?

 

[LeVraiPapi]

We are talking about Boxing. No Boxer takes OSDT when it comes to drug tests except 2 (Nonito Donaire and Edwin Rodriguez) and bringing up the Olympics has nothing to do with the facts I presented to you breh. Again, maybe you should look into those situations I posted to you....all fukked up situations in PROFESSIONAL BOXING between USADA and the fighters.


Secondly, Lance was not juicing? Then you just threw the USADA under the bus, because they claim he was.





Now, my problem isnt that they CAUGHT him....because they did and he's since admitted he was taking PEDs the whole time





My problem is they caught him back in 2009 or 2010 and didnt report until 2012. That's always the case with them and I would rather a cheater gets exposed ASAP.

It's personal preference when it comes to VADA vs USADA. I favor VADA when it comes to Professional Boxing and WADA over all period

They did not cover it up for years bro. USADA reports to WADA and WADA has people from all over the world in their panel. You think they would let USADA live after they failed to report an "American" athlete who competes against the world ?

Don't tell me you believe Lance. Dude lied to cancer patients and people dying breh. He denied it all until dem checks stop coming in and acting all sorry but didn't give any money back. He also posted a pic of him chilling by his trophies

You're smarter than that breh. VADA is Vegas grounded brother and USADA is international. Year round testing is not done on all Olympians either. It's done during a center window since you don't even know who's repping your country. You're telling me they should be testing atheltes year round and waste money while they don't even know who's making the team ?

Olympic style drug testing means random testing and all the other tests USADA runs, not year around although they claim 365 days a week testing

 

[Newzz]

wait wait..update me?

It all started with these 2 posts a few hours ago:

Just read Pacquiao had 4 VIALS of blood taken...has been tested numerous times as well. Last I heard, Ellerbe was saying he thinks Floyd's been tested, didnt know where.
SO, before I accuse Mayweather of having USADA in his pocket, before I make mention of Ariza and Memo's presence in his camp, PLEASE supply me with proof of not only how many times Floyd's been tested, but the amount of vials taken, the location, etc. Because all that info is out there for Pacquiao. I havent heard much of anything about Mayweather tho...

He's also not being tested as frequently as Pacquiao is. Pacman had 4 vials taken out recently in his 3rd or 4th "random" test. Mayweather has been tested allegedly once even tho Ellerbe didnt have any details on it. He's also had Ariza and Memo meet to "discuss things". The writings on the wall guys. This wont be a fair fight.

And nobody has an answer

 

[LeVraiPapi]

Do you need 4 vials of blood to check for PEDs?


I just did my yearly HIV test and a Hepetitis B test last Monday and only gave 2 vials.


At the end of the day though, you're defending the numbers, but we arent arguing that. The main question from @Mr. Leonidas was why isnt Floyd being tested as well?

HIV tests are PST and Hepatitis SST red tiger top bro. 2 vials.

USADA runs CBC, CMP, hormone uptakes and bunch of other tests. Trust me they will aliquot some other tubes as well. They may ebnd up using more than 4 vials. Bro you really believe Floyd has not been tested ? Do you ?

 

[LeVraiPapi]

It all started with these 2 posts a few hours ago:





And nobody has an answer

that post was so ridiculous that I did not even entertain it. How does he know FLoyd is not being tested ? Where's his proof ? Dude, Floyd gopt tested before he sparred Judah the other day. Article was on yahoo