Pacquiao vs Mayweather Official Thread...May 2nd!!!

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GzUpHoEzDwN said:
older fighters would test themselves more... they would move up in wieght until they lost.
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$ over glory. Back then the equation was a lot closer to even. Toughest fights usually meant biggest $ fights. Floyd doesn't give a shyt what a boxing historian thinks, and he won't get more $ testing himself against the toughest fighter near his weight(GGG), so why should he?

If you transported this era into that type of era, Floyd could have a lot of great names on his resume like prime Sergio Martinez, Paul Williams, GGG, a prime Pac, prime Cotto, pre-wrap Margarito, Vernon Forrest, a closer to prime Shane & ODH, among others. If he really wanted to get his Henry Armstrong on, he could've gone up and fought Andre Ward. And even if he lost to some of these guys, that wouldn't hurt his resume. An over the hill Duran gets A LOT of credit for pushing a prime Hagler to the brink.

I think Floyd would've been tested more, which would've brought out more greatness, and he'd have a top 10 resume to go with his top 5 skills. He would definitely be a top 5-10 ATG IMO if he did that. But I'm not knocking him for it because it would've hurt his $, could've left him like Ali & Roach, and he didn't necessarily duck most of these guys.
 
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MIAlien said:
$ over glory. Back then the equation was a lot closer to even. Toughest fights usually meant biggest $ fights. Floyd doesn't give a shyt what a boxing historian thinks, and he won't get more $ testing himself against the toughest fighter near his weight(GGG), so why should he?

If you transported this era into that type of era, Floyd could have a lot of great names on his resume like prime Sergio Martinez, Paul Williams, GGG, a prime Pac, prime Cotto, pre-wrap Margarito, Vernon Forrest, a closer to prime Shane & ODH, among others. If he really wanted to get his Henry Armstrong on, he could've gone up and fought Andre Ward. And even if he lost to some of these guys, that wouldn't hurt his resume. An over the hill Duran gets A LOT of credit for pushing a prime Hagler to the brink.

I think Floyd would've been tested more, which would've brought out more greatness, and he'd have a top 10 resume to go with his top 5 skills. He would definitely be a top 5-10 ATG IMO if he did that. But I'm not knocking him for it because it would've hurt his $, could've left him like Ali & Roach, and he didn't necessarily duck most of these guys.
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:mjlol: You assume he beats all of them?
 
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Black_Jesus said:
:mjlol: You assume he beats all of them?
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Hell no. I wasn't even going that far. I was just listing who he could've had on his resume if this era rewarded that Henry Armstrong/Ray Robinson mentality the way it rewarded him for being careful/business savvy. Plenty of boxing historians rank Duran higher than the other Four Kings despite losing to all of them. Same would go for Floyd if he fought those guys and beat most of them, which he could've done. Without thinking about it too much, I say Paul Williams would've beaten him and Floyd beats Maravilla. The others I'd have to think about their skill level at the time vs Floyd's, and consider his hand issues.

Oh, he would've beaten prime Pac too. :lolbron:
 
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Hell no. I wasn't even going that far. I was just listing who he could've had on his resume if this era rewarded that Henry Armstrong/Ray Robinson mentality the way it rewarded him for being careful/business savvy. Plenty of boxing historians rank Duran higher than the other Four Kings despite losing to all of them. Same would go for Floyd if he fought those guys and beat most of them, which he could've done. Without thinking about it too much, I say Paul Williams would've beaten him and Floyd beats Maravilla. The others I'd have to think about their skill level at the time vs Floyd's, and consider his hand issues.

Oh, he would've beaten prime Pac too. :lolbron:
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Funny you say that because this will be the Floyd stans goto line when he loses come May:skip:
 
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MIAlien said:
$ over glory. Back then the equation was a lot closer to even. Toughest fights usually meant biggest $ fights. Floyd doesn't give a shyt what a boxing historian thinks, and he won't get more $ testing himself against the toughest fighter near his weight(GGG), so why should he?

If you transported this era into that type of era, Floyd could have a lot of great names on his resume like prime Sergio Martinez, Paul Williams, GGG, a prime Pac, prime Cotto, pre-wrap Margarito, Vernon Forrest, a closer to prime Shane & ODH, among others. If he really wanted to get his Henry Armstrong on, he could've gone up and fought Andre Ward. And even if he lost to some of these guys, that wouldn't hurt his resume. An over the hill Duran gets A LOT of credit for pushing a prime Hagler to the brink.

I think Floyd would've been tested more, which would've brought out more greatness, and he'd have a top 10 resume to go with his top 5 skills. He would definitely be a top 5-10 ATG IMO if he did that. But I'm not knocking him for it because it would've hurt his $, could've left him like Ali & Roach, and he didn't necessarily duck most of these guys.
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:whoa:

I agree to everything else.
 
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Yo I'm hearing the vegas odds are getting closer
 
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Dan Rafael chat wrap 4/3:

Mayweather-Pacquiao:
- Tickets will be released to the public next week. Guessing that maybe 1,000 will be available to the general public.
- Only MGM properties will show the fight on closed circuit (but that is 10 or 11 properties).
- Date to determine the referee and judges likely will be 4/21.
- In 15 years of covering Mayweather, he has been nothing but cordial and nice.
- Sky paid $4.5 million to televise the bout. The price could go up depending on how the PPV sells.
- When bars are charged to buy PPV's they are charged by max occupancy. (Write in questions says his buddy has a bar and the cost to buy this fight is $5,000)
- Programs will be on sale soon at spboxing.com. Richard Sloan is doing the artwork for the poster. Those will be available soon as well.
- Predicting over 3 million PPV buys.
- The total revenue from this bout likely could have been more if the date was announced earlier to get everything lined up more methodically.
 
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