Pacquiao vs Crawford in negotiations for June 5th in Abu Dhabi

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Corny ass negging me for speaking facts about Thurman. Spence’s best wins are Porter and Danny - Thurman did that like 2-3 years ago - BACK TO BACK with no little Mikey Garcia’s in between. Learn some boxing, clown.
Don't forget Danny and Portee ducking Spence being why he accepted that Mikey fight..who was p4p #5 at the time.
 

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:beli:Thurman wasnt in his prime either physically, see how easy this is? Yall should quit with the shenanigans.

No way Canelo was green, he had straps and took Trout's beforehand,even tho imo it was debatable if he won that fight.

Crawford is still in his prime though.
He was only 30..definitely was in his prime.
 

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This really shouldn't be held against Spence though, it isn't held against other fighters hell it could be held against Crawford for his first title win, but nobody ever brings it up. Keep the same energy bruh, all I'm saying.

I agree 100%. And for the record, I know ppl faun over Bud, but I personally think he's the least accomplished and experienced welter and find it hilarious he's considered p4p #1 :pachaha:
 

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If manny beats Spence and crawford he easily surpasses Floyd resume.
manny got whipped by morales, and lost to jeff horn. his resume consists of 7 losses and 2 draws. he also lost to floyd 10 rounds to 2.
nothing he does can push him pass floyd.

i can make an argument that he isnt even better than marquez.
 

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The obsession with washed fighters is so odd. I can't think of any other sport where athletes who are this far gone still get this much attention. Imagine fans laying down mad money to see what Carmelo Anthony or Larry Fitzgerald were going to do in their next games.
Yeah, but if the NBA offered one-day contracts for Saturday or Sunday night games where for one night only, AI, an in-shape and motivated Shaq, shyt even 50+ year old MJ suited up to get minutes against the players of the day, you can’t tell me that people wouldn’t eat it up just as much. Or if Barry Bonds came out of retirement to take some at bats against today’s pitching. And Brett Favre created a frenzy and boost in ticket sales for three years straight retiring and unretiring. The circus is always there to be created, fight sports just go all the way with it. And it’s a lot easier to sell people on one off events.
 

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Yeah, but if the NBA offered one-day contracts for Saturday or Sunday night games where for one night only, AI, an in-shape and motivated Shaq, shyt even 50+ year old MJ suited up to get minutes against the players of the day, you can’t tell me that people wouldn’t eat it up just as much. Or if Barry Bonds came out of retirement to take some at bats against today’s pitching. And Brett Favre created a frenzy and boost in ticket sales for three years straight retiring and unretiring. The circus is always there to be created, fight sports just go all the way with it. And it’s a lot easier to sell people on one off events.
If they could make 9-figure paydays or even 8-figure they would do it in a heartbeat. You think everyone is just leaving that kind of money on the table?

Only boxing has this level of hype for wanted athletes who ain't at the top of the game anymore.
 

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If they could make 9-figure paydays or even 8-figure they would do it in a heartbeat. You think everyone is just leaving that kind of money on the table?

Only boxing has this level of hype for wanted athletes who ain't at the top of the game anymore.
I was referring to you saying that other sports don’t obsess over athletes that are this far gone like they do in boxing. If you’re saying the measuring stick for that is 9 figure pay days then we’re only talking about Floyd Mayweather. No other washed up fighters are touching that kind of bread. Roy basically never retired but no one was still watching his fights. But he got paid once he fought Tyson, not just any opponent.

Aside from that, we’re obviously talking about two different business models. LeBron plays for a team, which is owned by a league, which has a collective bargaining agreement with a player’s union, so we can’t see them try some goofy one off like I mentioned in my list of examples.

However, if you just look at Kobe’s farewell tour in his final season, tickets sold out on the road and at home and it wasn’t like he was having a season worth watching. If you calculate that increase in ticket sales, jerseys and merchandise, ratings and revenue for those games, ESPECIALLY when they marketed a game as his last time in this arena or that arena, which they did often, the point still remains. It was an obsession with an over the hill athlete that they successfully squeezed the juice out of. Kobe made $25 million in salary that year but that’s a drop in the bucket to what his presence alone generated for the league and companies. It’s a different business model but the fan obsession and willingness to spend is still there.

Jordan brand only exists because people still care about a dude whose last years on top were in 1998. If at the end of The Last Dance credits, the words THE FINAL CHAPTER popped up on the screen, and they showed footage of LeBron dominating wearing #23 and calling himself the greatest, and then cut to present day MJ in a dark room :mjpls: and he looks at the cameras and says “And I took that personal...”

And then they show the date and you see it’s an ad for MJ vs. LeBron one on one, PPV, Tickets on sale now!

BREH. It’s obvious MJ is old and obvious he’d get washed, but there’s just not a universe where that doesn’t immediately break all existing PPV records.
 

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manny got whipped by morales, and lost to jeff horn. his resume consists of 7 losses and 2 draws. he also lost to floyd 10 rounds to 2.
nothing he does can push him pass floyd.

i can make an argument that he isnt even better than marquez.


Stop it. That Jeff Horn decision was BS, and Manny's resume is better than Marquez. Floyd didn't beat him 10-2 either. Floyd won convincingly, but it wasn't no 10-2. And I love Floyd, but he was hesitant than a MF.
 

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Stop it. That Jeff Horn decision was BS, and Manny's resume is better than Marquez. Floyd didn't beat him 10-2 either. Floyd won convincingly, but it wasn't no 10-2. And I love Floyd, but he was hesitant than a MF.
manny was more hesistant than floyd
he felt a powerful counter in the first round and didnt wanna feel it again.

head to head match up's outweight resumes sometimes. marquez fought pacquaio at every stage of his career and got the better of him in every fight. after the first round of their first fight, he had him figured out.

jeff horn fight wasnt B.S. at all. manny gave up 5 of da first 6 rounds at minimum.
 

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manny was more hesistant than floyd
he felt a powerful counter in the first round and didnt wanna feel it again..

Stop it fam floyd fought the most scariest safety first of his life never seen floyd clinch that much in my life even his pops told him y u fighting scared n that was in the 9th could barely find a good video

 
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