Our Father’s Not in Heaven: The New Black Atheism

kevm3

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What diversity in christian thought? you either disregard the really stupid, hateful parts of the bible or you embrace them... if you do the first, you aren't being genuine just like the abolitionists. Also how exactly did they utilize christianity to eliminate slavery; i believe they used political measures friend

How many denominations does Christianity have? How did Protestantism come to be?

Since we are cherry-picking verses:
Deuteronomy 23:
15 If a slave has taken refuge with you, do not hand them over to their master. 16 Let them live among you wherever they like and in whatever town they choose. Do not oppress them.
 

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SO YOU CANNOT NAME AN ATHEIST WHO OWNED SLAVES, BROTHER! I'M NOT EVEN LIMITING THE QUESTION TO AMERICAN HISTORY, DUUUUDE! NAME AN ATHEIST FROM ANYTIME, ANY PLACE, WHO OWNED SLAVES, MAN!



THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY TO ABOLISH SLAVERY, BROTHER! THE BIBLE SAYS "SLAVES, OBEY YOUR MASTERS, BROTHERS!" CHRISTIAN ABOLITIONISTS WORKED IN SPITE OF THEIR BELIEFS!

AND WHO OPPOSED THEM MOST, DUUUDE? ATHEISTS? NOPE! GOOD, GOD-FEARING CHRISTIANS, BROTHER!


BAYARD RUSTIN WAS ONE OF KING'S RIGHT HAND MEN, DUUUDE! GUESS WHY HE'S NOT IN THE HISTORY BOOKS, BROTHER!

MLK WAS CRITICIZED CONSTANTLY BY OTHER CHURCH LEADERS FOR ASSOCIATING WITH SECULAR LABOR ORGANIZATIONS, BROTHER! THEY CALLED HIM AN ALLY OF GODLESS COMMUNISM, DUUUUDE!



YOU HAVE THIS BIZARRE CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT ABORTION IS WHITEY'S PLOT TO WIPE OUT BLACK PEOPLE, BROTHER! BUT LEMME ASK YA SUMTHIN BROTHER! NAME AN ATHEIST AFRICAN WARLORD, BROTHER! SHOW US A BLACK ATHEIST WHO RECRUITS 12 YEAR OLD BLACK BOYS INTO HIS RAPING AND PILLAGING ARMIES, DUUUUDE!

A gift to African from the atheist chinese brothers:

PETER HITCHENS: How China has created a new slave empire in Africa | Mail Online

DimeWars.Com - Africans in China complaining about being Treated like Animals - That's How they treat us?
 

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Since when is everybody in China an atheist?

Religion in China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


A large proportion of the population follows some sort of religion. Furthermore their treatment of blacks has nothing to do with religion or lack thereof, it's economic exploitation. Blanket statements get you nowhere.
 

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THOSE ARTICLES NEVER DESCRIBE ANYBODY AS A WARLORD OR AN ATHEIST AND THE HULKSTER PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT CHINESE PEOPLE ARE NOT AFRICAN, BROTHER!

THE HULKSTER'S POINT WAS THAT YOU CAN'T USE ATHEISM TO RECRUIT KIDS INTO PLATOONS OF RAPACIOUS MACHINE GUNNERS LIKE THE CHRISTIAN JOSEPH KONY DOES, DUUUUDE!
 

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Poe's Law continues to prove itself because at this point I can't tell if kevm3 is trolling or if he actually believes the nonsense he's saying. So atheists are to blame for the high abortion rate in the black community. :snoop:

Come on, breh. I mean come on. The atmosphere of sexual repression, sexual ignorance, anti-contraception and Carte blanche forgiveness fostered by the Church, of which blacks are largely devoted, have nothing to do with it? Those who champion the freedom of choice, for everyone, are to bear the blame for those who misuse it?

I'm going to go ahead and give you the benefit of the doubt and consider this a very poor attempt at a troll.
 

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Actually, from what I observe, the majority atheists actually do, even if unknowingly so. It seems to me, most atheists support abortion and agree with the proliferation of the planned parenthood. Covertly, Sanger's plan seems to be very effective considering that the rate of abortion in the black community is much higher than caucasian communities.

Abortion Rate Among Black Women Sparks Debate in Community - WNYC

Let's take a look at how this played out in New York:


abortion-pie-chart-2.4.png



here are some quotes from Sanger herself:









Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, In Her Own Words

So in fact, those who support planned parenthood are actually aiding Sanger's covert plan.
you're reaching by relating atheism's ok'aying abortion with pushing forward the doctrine of sanger...

and although i do know there are dubious motive behind organizations like Planned Parenthood, let's not act like the overall economic disparity in the black community isn't a huge reason why our community aborts so many children. why bring a child into an endless cycle of poverty? but this starts a whole different debate
 

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The introduction of Christianity to blacks existed far before European/American slavery.


To infer Christianity was taught to blacks solely by slave owners is very untrue. What about those who were against slavery and also happened to teach Christianity?

In regards to cheering on 'our domineers,' let's examine the true purpose of Margaret Sanger's Planned Parenthood

Most slaves who appear in the America's were taken from west Africa though.

Africa_slave_Regions.svg

stop acting like Christianity was not forced on Africans.

And I suspect it was done cause it made them more accepting the horrific treatment they were receiving.
 

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ALMOST EVERY CONQUERING POWER IN HISTORY HAS FORCED ITS RELIGIONS ON ITS VICTIMS, OR AT LEAST TORN DOWN THE TRADITIONS OF THE CONQUERED, BROTHER! THERE ARE NOTABLE EXCEPTIONS, LIKE THE ROMAN EMPIRE, DUUUUDE! BUT EVEN IN THE BIBLE, BROTHER, IDOLS TO "FALSE GODS" ARE GETTING KNOCKED DOWN ALL OVER THE PLACE, BROTHER! PEOPLE ACT LIKE AMERICA WAS THE FIRST PLACE A RELIGION WAS FORCED ON SOMEBODY, MAAAN!

BET LEMME TELL YA SUMTHIN BROTHER! WHEN ANDRE THE GIANT TORE MY CRUCIFIX NECKLACE OFF BEFORE WRESTLEMANIA III, THE HULKSTER WAS DEVASTATED, BROTHER!
 

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I incorrectly used forced secularism. I meant state atheism, not forced secularism, so that was my fault on that aspect.

No problem.

Why is American slavery attributed to Christianity when there were Christian abolitionists who did what they had to do to eliminate it? Why is Martin Luther King Jr., a Christian pastor, conveniently ignored when it comes to civil rights? Just as you can grab a verse about "obey your slavemasters" to attribute slavery to Christianity, you can attribute equality for blacks to the "treat others as you would want to be treated" among other verses as a testament to slavery's elimination in Christian nations.

I wouldn't want to attribute slavery to Christianity. Like I said, slavery would have probably happened without it. But the Bible's support for a form of slavery was part of the justification used for slavery.

I also don't want to ignore Dr. King and other Christian abolitionists and civil rights activists. Parts of their faith are absolutely responsible for inspiring them to do what they did, but that doesn't change what's in the Bible itself.

In regards to the death tallies being attributed to the Crusades, the death dolls attributed to atheist marxists is just as extreme if not moreso. Mao Zedong's policies were ultimately responsible for around 60 million deaths of his own people. Stalin was responsible for around 20 million deaths. Pol Pot 3 million... and that is all in the span of a few decades.

Mao and Stalin have massive death tolls, it's true, but those people were killed for resisting the state in any way, not because they weren't atheists. The Crusades were directly religious in nature. Why else would Europeans be inspired to travel many thousands of miles away to occupy a small, isolated stretch of land in the desert with little wealth or natural resources? Same goes for the Inquisition, which was also religious in origin. Colonization wasn't simply religiously motivated, of course, but religion played a huge part in it just like it did in slavery.

The introduction of Christianity to blacks existed far before European/American slavery.

This is also true, and many important early Christians were African, but that's why I specifically qualified my statement to Black people living in the US with slave ancestors. Slaves were all from West Africa, where Christianity didn't have a foothold. They were all either Muslims or one of many indigenous religions, and so Christianity for American Blacks came purely through slavery.

What about those who were against slavery and also happened to teach Christianity?

Those people existed, yes, and they got their inspiration from their faith in part, but not from the Bible as it is actually written. Also, that doesn't absolve the Bible of its own endorsement of slavery.

In regards to cheering on 'our domineers,' let's examine the true purpose of Margaret Sanger's Planned Parenthood

Yes, Margaret Sanger had bad intentions, but the agenda of Planned Parenthood is totally different today, and Planned Parenthood offers many important services to poor Black people for whom childbirth and raising a family is, as the statistics show, a very risky endeavor on many levels. Being able to accurately plan parenthood and start a family on solid ground is a good thing, breh.
 
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ALMOST EVERY CONQUERING POWER IN HISTORY HAS FORCED ITS RELIGIONS ON ITS VICTIMS, OR AT LEAST TORN DOWN THE TRADITIONS OF THE CONQUERED, BROTHER! THERE ARE NOTABLE EXCEPTIONS, LIKE THE ROMAN EMPIRE, DUUUUDE! BUT EVEN IN THE BIBLE, BROTHER, IDOLS TO "FALSE GODS" ARE GETTING KNOCKED DOWN ALL OVER THE PLACE, BROTHER! PEOPLE ACT LIKE AMERICA WAS THE FIRST PLACE A RELIGION WAS FORCED ON SOMEBODY, MAAAN!

BET LEMME TELL YA SUMTHIN BROTHER! WHEN ANDRE THE GIANT TORE MY CRUCIFIX NECKLACE OFF BEFORE WRESTLEMANIA III, THE HULKSTER WAS DEVASTATED, BROTHER!

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and how come your all knowing, eternal god just upped and stopped communicating with humans? yall aint added nothing to the bible in close to 2000 years, so all of a suddenly god just stopped performing miracles, and working through disciples? i don't get how people can just blindly believe in this fantasy, it's cool to use it as some sort of moral compass or to further your thoughts about a higher power, but the concept of some man sitting in the sky judging you, actually caring about your life and daily prayers is absurd

Every breath you take is communication with the supreme being that PUT YOU HERE.

You think MAN created himself with the ability to procreate? :childplease:

Don't let the corrupt American brand of religion warp you from your God.

Praise Ye the Lord! :krs:
 

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Every breath you take is communication with the supreme being that PUT YOU HERE.

You think MAN created himself with the ability to procreate? :childplease:

Don't let the corrupt American brand of religion warp you from your God.

Praise Ye the Lord! :krs:

sometimes its hard to tell if someone is being sarcastic or serious on these forums....

:dwillhuh:
 
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