Oshay Duke Jackson ethers the White Queen of the Manosphere for anti-Black racism!

[skyrunner1]

It is a very weird paradox. Some of the women they prop up exhibit the very qualities and traits they're supposed to be railing against. But the women either is pretty or beneficial to their cause in some way so they ignore it. It makes the whole movement hypocritical.

Facts. Thats when the whole thing falls apart.

 

[Ish Gibor]

Yea she stripped and single mom ratchet who presents well and smart enough to use same skills and space age finesse online now. Side eyed all these dudes when they started parading her around like ya must not really be around women if you fall for the finesse that easy. Even when I mentioned her track record dudes initial reaction was to get up in arms, lol..

I have listened to her a few times, because she entertaining and communicates well. But she said that she used to work at a white barber. Or is that a euphemism for "strip/night club"?

I know you have spoken on pretty privelege and such before but this is prime example, her mask slips from time to time but she is socially competent enough to pick up the talking points and regurgitate it enough. These dudes be soo lost they will listen to anyone as long as they clean the cum stains off them and tell them what they want to hear.

So she's basically the female version of Derrick Jackson?

 

[Ish Gibor]

It is a very weird paradox. Some of the women they prop up exhibit the very qualities and traits they're supposed to be railing against. But the women either is pretty or beneficial to their cause in some way so they ignore it. It makes the whole movement hypocritical.

 

[O.Red]

The reason why she blew it because under that guise of her "being a feminine queen" is a ratchet, loudmouthed hoodrat. She's beautiful and shes very hilarious. But she ain't nowhere near the feminine woman she portrays herself to be.

She fumbled the bag with Kevin because she kept sneak dissing him after Kevin tried to show her off. Dealing with her ratchetness over a long period of time would be exhausting.

Anybody with enough experience can spot Six a mile away. It doesn't help that she has no restraint

She'll put on a good face and say the right things, but she hasn't refined it enough to keep certain ratchet elements from slipping out. And if you make her even slightly mad you'll see a demon some true " I gotta get away from this bytch" energy

She's a house of cards in a thunderstorm

 

[skyrunner1]

I have listened to her a few times, because she entertaining and communicates well. But she said that she used to work at a white barber. Or is that a euphemism for "strip/night club"?


So she's basically the female version of Derrick Jackson?

Nah, she sold ass back in day, like 10+ years ago.. The salon stuff is more recent and used to be typical retirement for an "old hoe" (its a young person game and they age like runningbacks)

 

[skyrunner1]

Anybody with enough experience can spot Six a mile away. It doesn't help that she has no restraint

She'll put on a good face and say the right things, but she hasn't refined it enough to keep certain ratchet elements from slipping out. And if you make her even slightly mad you'll see a demon some true " I gotta get away from this bytch" energy

She's a house of cards in a thunderstorm

All of this! That mask slips all the time and the fact these dudes dont see it is a bigger problem, lol.. Majority are sweet licks and really prove the saying, they are one blow job from being back on plantation.

 

[Gloxina]

Ok. I am not so familiar with The Daily Wire. What type of political alignment do they have?


Black men in the manosphere predominantly argue over two things.

1) Holding BM accountable.
2) Holding BW accountable.

When we have BW making and embracing songs like WAP, BW making assclap videos and upload them on public social media, BW twerking all over the place in public spaces, having a Black woman senator twerking upside down on a beach (and it's not about her being upside down, it's about her twerking), a Black woman twerking on MLK day in Washington D.C., we have a problem. Women considering is slavery to cook, cleaning a house, taking care of children and husband. And yes, I have spend time on SLA, so I know it's true. It has been said to me many times. I have been benched on SLA many times because of these disagreements I am having with some females. Currently I am blocked as well because someone state lies on BM and I confronted her. I have been benched over the most ridiculous things. All it took for them was some fake tears.

How can men build with unruly women?


I am not part of the manosphere space and never was. I did know about Oshay a few years ago, because he was on Dynast Amir's (Search For Uhuru) channel a few times talking about other things like the ADOS movement and Reparations. So I went to Oshay's channel but left it quickly because it as too harsh, yelling and cursing at women who came to the platform asking question. He told them the GTFO, because it was men's content. It was dark and BlackPill like, misogyny.

I got to know about Dynast because I was searching for the Dogon Sirus knowledge. And he happened to have documented that with Dogon people in Mali. The interview was done so excellent I started to look at more of his content and subbed for years (recently I unsubbed).

Dynast had excellent guest speakers from the BAIO (The Black Afrikan Infrastructure Organization) an organization by Holip Sims and Kala Genesis. Paris Milan was close with Holip, how close is unknown to me.



I also knew Oshay because of Paris Milan. And I got to know about her because she spoke on a police shooting. I think it was Amir Rice. The commentary was on point in my opinion, so I started to listen to more. We had deep conversations about her personal life as well. This was when she had less than a 1K subs. It was men who made her a larger YTber, including myself. I did put money in her pocket at the time.

Paris Milan has done two shows with Oshay Duke Jackson. It’s in total about 5 hours. On there she basically tells her life story. At that time Oshay had his moments with women. But here he had a nice conversation with Paris.





At the time Paris made Pro-Black content, until the fallout with other content creators…. (but that story is for another time lol).


The conversion is determent what can be talked about to include women.

Dr. Ronald Neal has some great examples of this. He's Blackmanosphere and passport bro. Currently he's in Africa (Gambia, before that he was in Senegal) and there is all he wants to be he said. He's part of the intellectual group in the Blackmanosphere.








Some of this is indeed true, as I have seen it myself. But what is wrong with being male-identified? I don't understand the trauma part? I think I do but I'm not sure, so can you elaborate?



I do know that type of content exists as well.

What is your opinion on Black women who tell young Black women to be promiscuous and sleep with other men in order test your man t see if he truly loves you (after that). Or Black women who tell to burn the chicken or leave it raw and unseasoned, unprepared to test your man. These type of female content creators also exist and they have a large following.

1- You talk about female rappers, like we haven’t had DECADES of male rappers talking about disrespecting women, “pumping and dumping” women, having “baby mommas” and not WIVES, glorifying slanging drugs and KILLING each other, etc.

So if you want to talk about the influence THOSE men have had on generations of black men listening to them SINCE THEY CAME FIRST, I’m all ears. If you want to say female rap influences are worse than the male influences who have been a much larger negative influence for MUCH longer, we have nothing to talk about.

2- You talk about female influencers telling young girl to play the field, but what about all of the male influencers who tell young men to date casually, have fun and not take women seriously until they are established in their 30s. Who exactly are these young men supposed to be dating “casually”? EACH OTHER? Or the young girls who don’t know that these guys see them as playthings/toys/practice.

Why aren’t these Black male influencers teaching young men to find their wives in their 20s and build with them? How many young men have a girl who loves them when they’re fly and having fun and they drop her to go “sow their oats” etc? How many men teach that it’s ok to upgrade to a “prettier, younger” etc woman if they start making more money/become more successful?

3- The problem with being male identified is putting men ahead of what is best for women, even to a woman’s own detriment.

You don’t have large groups of men who are female identified because they know it isn’t in their interest.


Regarding The Daily Wire, et. al :

You seem to be a bit disingenuous. I don’t need to tell you their political slant, because that would be me giving you MY perspective. You have enough info to search in Google or LITERALLY go to their page on YT and make your own assessment. And if you have enough gumption to pull and post YT videos that back your argument, you CERTAINLY have the ability to figure out what The Daily Wire is about.

 

[O.Red]

This thread has branched off into different relevant topics

Most notably nikkas gotta look into the Thomas Sowell pipeline because look at how many of these people invoke his name and talk about how he "opened their eyes". Look at how many of them quote Sowell religiously. I was sleep on how ubiquitous he is.

 

[⠀X ⠀]

This thread has branched off into different relevant topic

Most notably nikkas gotta look into the Thomas Sowell pipeline because look at how many of these people invoke his name and talk about how he "opened their eyes". Look at how many of them quote Sowell religiously. I was sleep on how ubiquitous he is.

I never heard of him until Kevin mentioned him, and them Jason Black called him out on it. That was a couple of years ago. I suspect they heard of him through Kevin too

 

[skyrunner1]

3- The problem with being male identified is putting men ahead of what is best for women, even to a woman’s own detriment.

You don’t have large groups of men who are female identified because they know it isn’t in their interest.

Most men are women identified and seem to not even know it. They will self sacrifice and/or go against their own interest alot

 

[Gloxina]

Most men are women identified and seem to not even know it. They will self sacrifice and/or go against their own interest alot

That’s your protective nature kicking in. It just needs to be applied to the right woman/women

 

[Gloxina]

Yea she stripped and single mom ratchet who presents well and smart enough to use same skills and space age finesse online now. Side eyed all these dudes when they started parading her around like ya must not really be around women if you fall for the finesse that easy. Even when I mentioned her track record dudes initial reaction was to get up in arms, lol..

I know you have spoken on pretty privelege and such before but this is prime example, her mask slips from time to time but she is socially competent enough to pick up the talking points and regurgitate it enough. These dudes be soo lost they will listen to anyone as long as they clean the cum stains off them and tell them what they want to hear.

Exactly. Which is why the ones who get it, don’t have issues with men.

This is why I say a lot of our women don’t understand the power of beauty. If they did everyone would grind to max out their looks

 

[jilla82]

This thread has branched off into different relevant topic

Most notably nikkas gotta look into the Thomas Sowell pipeline because look at how many of these people invoke his name and talk about how he "opened their eyes". Look at how many of them quote Sowell religiously. I was sleep on how ubiquitous he is.

lord forbid black men arent super left wing

 

[Ish Gibor]

1- You talk about female rappers, like we haven’t had DECADES of male rappers talking about disrespecting women, “pumping and dumping” women, having “baby mommas” and not WIVES, glorifying slanging drugs and KILLING each other, etc.

Rap / Hip Hop was always a male dominated space, with a few rare exceptions with Black women sprinkled around. The women in Hip Hop were respected in conscious rap. You are confusing gangsta rap with conscious rap. And even if the conscious rappers used the b-word, it still was done in an educational way. It was focused on males and how some "females move" (no pun intended).

Women like Queen Latifah, MC Lyte, Antoinette, Bahamadia, Monie Love, Foxy Brown, Yo-Yo, Rah Digga, Da Brat, MC Trouble, Lin Que, The Conscious Daughters, Lady of Rage, Lauryn Hill, Ladybug Mecca, Sista Soldier etc... And of course the first female MC MC Sha-Rock, as well as the other early female MC's from the '80s like Pebblee-Poo, Roxanne Shante, Sparky D, Lady Crush, Queen Lisa Lee, Salt n Pepa. These females were highly respected in a male dominated space. Lovely lady, Gloxina.

The shift in how females represented themselves was with Lil Kim, later in the early 2000s there was Khia with My neck, my back… From there it progressed to Nicki Minaj, and so on… That is on Black women, as heterosexual Black men in general do not listen, support and or listen to female rap.

A lil background on how we got here.

It basically started with Schoolly D, who made semi-gangsta rap songs with a jokingly twist.

"Saturday night" - Schoolly D



It basically was a pivot on Kool Moe Dee's "Go see the doctor".

Later on we had, MC Shan, Just Ice, Public Enemy with more edutainment like songs on how some females show promiscuous behavior. It was to warn teenagers. These following songs are educational...

MC Shan - Project Ho



Just Ice - Booga Bandit bytch



Public Enemy - Sophisticated bytch



Somehow this twisted when NWA came out and started to use the b-word in a different manner, but also glorified the killings of BM. They basically tried to explain "their reality", as they explained it. However, I know that most members of NWA had a different upbringing, middle class and college educated. And after that is when the gangsta rap started and all the dysfunctional behavior became rewarded. It also became progressively worse.

You don't know enough about history and rap, Hip Hop to speak of on this topic and to have this conversation with me. You basically have very basically knowledge and understanding of the topic.

A lot of these men who used to rap these things at times regret it and see how it was wrong, are now married to women and have daughters.

Lord Jamar (of Brand Nubian) - "Same Ole Girl" (feat. Prodigal Sunn)



Saigon - Promise Ring (feat. Milan Amor & Krizz Kaliko)



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[Ish Gibor]

So if you want to talk about the influence THOSE men have had on generations of black men listening to them SINCE THEY CAME FIRST, I’m all ears. If you want to say female rap influences are worse than the male influences who have been a much larger negative influence for MUCH longer, we have nothing to talk about.

And we now have a drop in incarcerated BM, more BM in the middle class, BM as millionaires, with BM moving into billionaire status. We now get to know that the mass incarceration of BM in the 90's in a lot of cases was based on false accusations.

Black imprisonment rate in the U.S. has fallen by a third since 2006

There were 1,501 black prisoners for every 100,000 black adults in 2018, down sharply from 2,261 black inmates per 100,000 black adults in 2006.

www.pewresearch.org

I. Murder
• Judging from exonerations, innocent black people are about seven times more likely to be convicted of murder than innocent white people. A major cause of the high number of black murder exonerations is the high homicide rate in the black community—a tragedy that kills many African Americans and sends many others to prison. Innocent defendants who are falsely convicted and exonerated do not contribute to this high homicide rate. They— like the families of victims who are killed—are deeply harmed by murders committed by others.

II. Sexual Assault
• Judging from exonerations, a black prisoner serving time for sexual assault is three- and-a-half times more likely to be innocent than a white sexual assault convict. The major cause for this huge racial disparity appears to be the high danger of mistaken eyewitness identification by white victims in violent crimes with black assailants.

III. Drug Crimes
• The best national evidence on drug use shows that African Americans and whites use illegal drugs at about the same rate. Nonetheless, African Americans are about five times as likely to go to prison for drug possession as whites—and judging from exonerations, innocent black people are about 12 times more likely to be convicted of drug crimes than innocent white people.

“Since 1989, more than 1,800 defendants have been cleared in “group exonerations” that followed 15 large-scale police scandals in which officers systematically framed innocent defendants. The great majority were African-American defendants who were framed for drug crimes that never occurred. There are almost certainly many more such cases that remain hidden. pp. 21-25
[…]
"innocent black people are about 12 times more likely to be convicted of drug crimes than innocent white people. pp.16-17.
[…]
African Americans are more frequently stopped, searched, arrested, and convicted—including in cases in which they are innocent. The extreme form of this practice is systematic racial profiling in drug-law enforcement. pp. 20-21"
(Michigan State University) https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Documents/Race Report Preview.pdf

With the being said, women hold access to their womb who they have sexual intercourse with.

We already have gone over the stats of BM who have children and those that don't. No need to repost it here. That would be unproductive. Right, lovely lady Gloxina?

2- You talk about female influencers telling young girl to play the field, but what about all of the male influencers who tell young men to date casually, have fun and not take women seriously until they are established in their 30s. Who exactly are these young men supposed to be dating “casually”? EACH OTHER? Or the young girls who don’t know that these guys see them as playthings/toys/practice.

Those men are wrong for going so and that is how you end up with all these children out fo wedlock. Remember a man got b*stardized for saying marry before you carry.

It's the women who hold access to sex and womb. Most men will take what is being offered, when women give it up easy. That is male nature.

And that is also why over 1.5 million children are being born out of wedlock by non-BM. Easy and promiscuous women is a thing nowadays. Are you familiar with the term "hoe phase"?

Revisiting telegony: offspring inherit an acquired characteristic of their mother's previous mate - PMC

Newly discovered non-genetic mechanisms break the link between genes and inheritance, thereby also raising the possibility that previous mating partners could influence traits in offspring sired by subsequent males that mate with the same female ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Why aren’t these Black male influencers teaching young men to find their wives in their 20s and build with them? How many young men have a girl who loves them when they’re fly and having fun and they drop her to go “sow their oats” etc?

There was a man who did, when he passed away a lot of women celebrated his death. As I said, I am not in the Blackmanoshpere space, so I am not up-to-date on who makes what type of content and who says what, when and where.

How many men teach that it’s ok to upgrade to a “prettier, younger” etc woman if they start making more money/become more successful?

I know there are guys who do teach about fitness and wellness, which in directly deals with the things you deem as a requirement. I can't give you a specific number of men, but I know there are there.

3- The problem with being male identified is putting men ahead of what is best for women, even to a woman’s own detriment.

What do you think is best for women, when men ask for a woman who cooks, cleans, takes care of the children and raises them properly. As is a woman's duty.

What is odd about these things?

Is another word for being male identified the same as being a "pic-me"?

You don’t have large groups of men who are female identified because they know it isn’t in their interest.

1) Most Black men do not accept that someone talks badly about their mom, do you consider that female identified?

2) I have no idea if that is true. Close to half of the BM demographic is single and childless, but does want to be married to a Black woman. These men have requirements.

Regarding The Daily Wire, et. al :

You seem to be a bit disingenuous. I don’t need to tell you their political slant, because that would be me giving you MY perspective. You have enough info to search in Google or LITERALLY go to their page on YT and make your own assessment. And if you have enough gumption to pull and post YT videos that back your argument, you CERTAINLY have the ability to figure out what The Daily Wire is about.

It's not that hard to explain what their political views are. But I already know, it's a far right leaning platform.

It was already answered.

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