Oshay Duke Jackson ethers the White Queen of the Manosphere for anti-Black racism!

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I already disproved your point and you have yet to address my original point.

The conversation is dead here. You're just going to keep talking in delusional circles. I bid you a good day.
Suggesting, without proof, that many of the 54% of childless BM are not claiming their children isn’t disproving anything. Delusional is believing that offering solutions and data is delusional. Protect your womb and have a blessed accountable day, ma’am.
 

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Why do Black women have over a million more children than Black men, ma’am.

Here’s a short video that breaks down the numbers. I hope you enjoy, friend.

The funniest thing is that the Black numbers nearly mirror Hispanic and White numbers, but that would be a terrible thing to acknowledge in your quest to browbeat Black women. Only a couple percentage points separate the groups. If you all were to tell it would be 10s of points different simply because of Black women's "poor" behavior. Instead it's simply a gender difference mirrored across all groups. :laff:
 
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You act like white surpmecaists can't pull up data to make black people look bad by putting a spin on it. In regards to that, what were the situations of the given custody battles? How incompetant were the mothers in those proceedings? What were the differences in income between the father and the mother? Between situations where the father won vs situations where the mother won where both were actually seeking custody, what did steps did the winning side have to take to obtain custody? Which states did these occur in? There is a lot of information that goes into understanding data. This is what I was talking about in regards to Destiny using data poorly and what I was talking about how people will cape for one side as long as it is attacking black men. Correlations without causation. The white supremacist way.

It's hypocritical really. Instead of truly parsing the information, it's turned into a shyt-flinging contest. This is part of the reason why you have guys defending JPT. They've essentially given up on the community. It's not right but it is what it is and it is unsurprising.


He is quite entrenched within the manosphere. He has even shown up on JPT and has made a point to comment on this topic on multiple platforms and multiple other shows. He was talking to the No Jumper guy about divestors as well. He has taken to twitter to talk about black contribution to music, diminishing it and claiming whites came up with most of it and claiming that even Jazz and other forms of black music came from whites. We had a thread on it and everything. This was after he went manosphere. Moreover, he has a history of using the n-word (with an er) and defending its usage by himself and by extension, other people like him.


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I want everyone to note this. This is how divestors think. They do not believe a good black man can exist. They believe that the issues of black men are inherent. Genetic or a reaction to a culture that, due to genetics, they created or poorly adapted to. This is why they advocate for the abortion of males. They also believe their femininity magically absolves and solves all issues related to this. They believe in an inherent genetic inferiority. Even more so, they reduce any possible "goodness" of a black man to a performative act that is based solely in how they can benefit from it and nothing more thus indicating that a black man is not good, just useful, allowing them to hold on to their previous idea of black men not being good but in doing so, they rob black men of their humanity and reduce them to tools, similar to white supremacists who refer to blacks as "outdated farm equipment" as a reference to slavery. So unless you are a slave or dead, you serve no purpose to a divestor and are not allowed to have thoughts, dreams, or considerations of your own, while others are not treated or have this overly-rigid, absurd, and obscene restrictions put on them. Proof of this is seen in Destiny being racist, being ignorant of black history, not viewing black history with any real understanding of the effect of white supremacy, and being all kinds of flawed but getting a pass for that. Other black men that have gone to bat for black women and are not given this level of grace since a good black man cannot exist in their minds and again, those black men have not done enough work (bringing us back to a performative based existence due in part to the original sin of being both black and a male). Ultimately, her, an people like her, favor is unimportant but I want you all to note this. This is important since it is a hallmark of these people and it guides how they think and how they act, and ultimately what sort of actions they take towards black males, including black kids.

It is common sense to understand that some good exists in most groups, even ones you distrust. But to assume none are good is a problem, to assume that none of your own people are good, this is a greater problem in itself. This is key and how divestor rhetoric is no different than white supremacist ideology.



You're wasting your time with her. Just look over any divestor discussion and you'll see the same talking points and methods. Even more, look at any discussion among white supremacists and you'll see the similarities.
Spoken/typed with intelligence and scholarship, friend.
 

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The funniest thing is that the Black numbers nearly mirror Hispanic and White numbers, but that would be a terrible thing to acknowledge in your quest to browbeat Black women. Only a couple percentage points separate the groups. If you all were to tell it would be 10s of points different simply because of Black women's "poor" behavior. Instead it simply a gender difference mirrored across all groups. :laff:
Over million more children. Protecting the womb should be a priority, ma’am.
 

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Over million more children. Protecting the womb should be a priority, ma’am.
You might want to direct this to all women. He kept discussing a 4% error rate in the data. The smallest gap of men to women with children was 10.7% with whites, and highest with Black men and women at 15%. That is right in his error range, so the data is virtually indistinguishable between the groups as per his logic. But I thought Black women were not protecting their wombs, and should take the queue from other groups? How is the data not more pronounced if what you are saying about Black women is true?
 

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You might want to direct this to all women. He kept discussing a 4% error rate in the data. The smallest gap of men to women with children was 10.7% with whites, and highest with Black men and women at 15%. That is right in his error range, so the data is virtually indistinguishable between the groups as per his logic. But I thought Black women were not protecting their wombs, and should take the queue from other groups? How is the data not more pronounced if what you are saying about Black women is true?
That OOW rate is very pronounced. What is so wrong with the solution of Black females protecting their wombs, friend?
 

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She definitely knew. If you seen enough of her debates you'll see her game

Whenever Pearl is losing an argument or wants to appear as an innocent adjacent, she'll play dumb

And I'm not talking about regular playing dumb, Pearl will suddenly revert to the brain of a 4 year old that don't know shyt. The pivot is obvious when she does it because she's not a great actor or liar
She did that to B Taylor with great effect. When B started trying to pin her down and got emotional Pearly started giggling like a little kid and was :manny: and said it’s all entertainment


B Taylor then went pure nuclear :damn:and couldn’t articulate her points while Pearly was:troll:
 

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"Small minority" :mjlol: 80% of BM have children by the time they are 40 y/o. Please go actually read the stat you are trying to quote instead of regurgitated delusional talking points.
That's an incorrect interpretation of what the stat means.

It doesn't mean that 80% of BM are a dad by the time they are 40 y/o. It explains WHEN BM become dad, not the amount of BM. So it is 80% of the men who became a father, within the amount of that particular demographic of Black dads within a certain age bracket. Not 80% of all BM, not BM overall.

This is the actual paper and publication of the plot you've posted.

"Some differences by race and origin surface when looking at the age at which men become fathers (see Figure 3). For example about 1 percent of White, Asian, and Hispanic men aged 15 to 19 are fathers, compared with about 3 percent of Black men of the Among men aged 20 to 29, 21.2 percent of White men are fathers, as are 24.9 percent of Black men, 29.4 percent of Hispanic men, and 12.4 percent of Asian men. At least half of men aged 30 to 39 are fathers, includ- ing 63.3 percent of White men, 62.5 percent of Black men, 72.1 percent of Hispanic men, and 52.1 percent of Asian men. Among men aged 40 to 49 years old, 75.1 percent of White men are fathers, compared to 80.5 percent of Black men, and 80.7 percent of Asian men in the same age cohort."
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"There are some notable racial differences in men’s completed fertility. About 1 in 4 White men aged 40 to 50 are childless, compared to about 1 in 5 Black men. Additionally, 18.9 percent of Asian men and 30.8 percent of men of all other races are childless. The share of men aged 40 to 50 who have never married is highest among Black men (31.4 percent) and lowest among Asian men (9.2 percent). About 16 percent of White men in this age group have never married. There were 1,749 children ever born per 1,000 White men aged 40 to 50, compared to 2,105 children ever born per 1,000 Black men, and 1,778 children ever born per 1,000 Asian men."



Again if you can't engage in the post you originally quoted just say that.
I have posted this on SLA before and I was ousted for it.

Black women had over 1.5 million biracial children out of wedlock, from 2011 to 2015. We are now in 2023, so we can safely assume the percentage has risen, perhaps even doubled?

Here is the CDC source: see tables 1, 2 and 3.

"Fertility of Men and Women Aged 15–44 in the United States: National Survey of Family Growth, 2011–2015".
(Gladys Martinez, CDC, Number 113: July 11, 2018)

These out of wedlock children by non-BM are considered Black according to the census bureau. Yet it’s BM who they claim for the absentee.

“The percentages were similar for non-Hispanic black (46.6%)"
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr113.pdf

“Meanwhile, a higher percentage of Hispanic men had a biological child (54%) compared with both white (41%) and black (49%) men.”
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr051.pdf

"New York Times columnist Charles Blow previously took on this myth. Blow started with the basis for much of the idea: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data that showed 71.5 percent of black, non-Hispanic children in 2013 were born to unmarried women, compared with 29.3 percent of white, non-Hispanic children.

But as Josh Levs pointed out in his new book All In, 2.5 million of 4.2 million black fathers — or about 59.5 percent — live with their children. Levs's numbers suggest that it's not true, as the CDC figures suggests, that 71.5 percent of black dads are absent from their homes — but rather that many of them are simply unmarried."

Debunking the most pervasive myth about black fatherhood

Danielle Sanders, Chicagodefender, June 18, 2021) The Myth of the Invisible Black Father.
 
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That OOW rate is very pronounced. What is so wrong with the solution of Black females protecting their wombs, friend?
Out of wedlock means simply unmarried. There has been data posted in the thread that states that most Black men live with their children, so are you claiming that Black men are not fathers to their children, or...?
 

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Again, Destiny's content is not based around Black people nor Black relationships.
When and where did I say that Destiny's content is / was around Black people or Black relationships?

The conversation I was having said he’s a "grifter" while comparing him to Pearl which is not accurate.
I have to watch that conversion, I have not see it yet.

The reason so many of ya'll don't like him is because he choose not to grift and didn't agree with ya'll.
I have no idea what you are talking about. Do you mean Destiny or Antony? What grift are you talking about?

If he had went with the program whatever racism he possesses wouldn’t have mattered because it was BM in the space trying to get him on board. And if he changed his tune he would be celebrated just like Pearly regardless of the information you posted. Just like regardless of Pearls racism toward BW she was celebrated by BM.
From the few things I have seen I am not sure where he position is now.

The amazing part about Jason is that he explained that there is far right racism (obviously), but also left wing racism (which is less obvious).

I am not saying Destiny is a Hillary supporter, but it's about the demographic. He most likely as Bernie Sanders supporter.


Ya'll want to make everyone else the bad guys but the truth is that these "bad WP" would've even be in your business if you hadn't invited them in with open arms and paid them to be there.
Not sure what you mean, perhaps you can elaborate. I do not think that literally every WP is a racist etc… But from the few clips I have seen Destiny was a bit disappointing, considering how I got to know about him in the debate against Antony Brian Logan.

*The 'you' is general
Oh ok.

And that's all I have to say about this. This whole shyt is embarrassing and ya'll trying to make it about everything except the poor judgment of the "leaders" is giving me a headache. Have a good day gentlemen.
I am not sure if there are any leaders, neither am I a follower. I was never part of that space in the first place. I did tap in so every now and then, due to the pandemic.
 
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