Orthodox Jewish schools tell govt they won’t teach LGBT lessons

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Nikkas showing their ignorance in this thread. Their whole belief system has been against LGBTQRSTUV . This country is going to collapse if people don't stand against it. Forget all of that.We are going to stand against it with the UK. Be mad if you want to, come get these hands
 
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When you have your own schools you can make these decisions.

Except if they take public money which many of them do. Huge investigation in NYC found they're not even teaching basic math and reading to kids. It's theft. I applaud them for standing up, but they'll bow down.
 

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So, not teaching about something that you don’t like is OK?

Would they be OK with right-wing schools not teaching about the Holocaust?
 

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So, not teaching about something that you don’t like is OK?
The very foundation of Jewish education is Torah, which explicitly forbids sexual immorality (e.g., homosexuality). It is considered a toieivo Hashem, something that is 'detestable' or 'disgusting' to Hashem. Not only is it 'OK' not to teach it- it's a MITZVA!

Would they be OK with right-wing schools not teaching about the Holocaust?
Chareidim couldn't care less about the goings-on at non-Jewish schools.
 

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Huge investigation in NYC found they're not even teaching basic math and reading to kids.
Those findings are only in relation to what the secular rules and regulations deem 'basic', which were founded some two centuries ago (in the US, at least); whereas compulsory Jewish education was instituted prior the destruction of the Second Temple. Yeshivos have therefore always taught in accordance with the latter, a system consisting of two curricula: לימודי קודש (religious studies) and לימודי חול (secular studies). The very foundation of Jewish education is Torah, therefore לימודי קודש takes precedence from the beginning of one's years (cheder). The most important aspect of Jewish education is to be connected to Torah. However, that is not to say that לימודי חול is neglected; to the contrary. Aside from its own schedule, לימודי חול is part and parcel of לימודי קודש in terms of language, mathematics, literature, philosophy, law, and logic, all of which religious studies encompass. The only difference is that these subjects must never contradict the Torah (e.g., evolution or atheism), otherwise the curriculum is osur min halocha, forbidden by Jewish Law. Certain secular knowledge is useful for learning certain Torah topics, such as anatomy for sh'chitah (slaughter), or arithmetic for eiruvin (shabbat walking limit) and succah (temporary dwelling hut). This is done bdi'aved, meaning only to the extent that it is useful for one's Torah studies.
 
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dont blame the stolengolds.
black people should be just as vocal.
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Those findings are only in relation to what the secular rules and regulations deem 'basic', which were founded some two centuries ago (in the US, at least); whereas compulsory Jewish education was instituted prior the destruction of the Second Temple. Yeshivos have therefore always taught in accordance with the latter, a system consisting of two curricula: לימודי קודש (religious studies) and לימודי חול (secular studies). The very foundation of Jewish education is Torah, therefore לימודי קודש takes precedence from the beginning of one's years (cheder). The most important aspect of Jewish education is to be connected to Torah. However, that is not to say that לימודי חול is neglected; to the contrary. Aside from its own schedule, לימודי חול is part and parcel of לימודי קודש in terms of language, mathematics, literature, philosophy, law, and logic, all of which religious studies encompass. The only difference is that these subjects must never contradict the Torah (e.g., evolution or atheism), otherwise the curriculum is osur min halocha, forbidden by Jewish Law. Certain secular knowledge is useful for learning certain Torah topics, such as anatomy for sh'chitah (slaughter), or arithmetic for eiruvin (shabbat walking limit) and succah (temporary dwelling hut). This is done bdi'aved, meaning only to the extent that it is useful for one's Torah studies.

Aye we get it :hubie:

But others have similar value systems and the alphabet guys don't let up
 

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Those findings are only in relation to what the secular rules and regulations deem 'basic', which were founded some two centuries ago (in the US, at least); whereas compulsory Jewish education was instituted prior the destruction of the Second Temple. Yeshivos have therefore always taught in accordance with the latter, a system consisting of two curricula: לימודי קודש (religious studies) and לימודי חול (secular studies). The very foundation of Jewish education is Torah, therefore לימודי קודש takes precedence from the beginning of one's years (cheder). The most important aspect of Jewish education is to be connected to Torah. However, that is not to say that לימודי חול is neglected; to the contrary. Aside from its own schedule, לימודי חול is part and parcel of לימודי קודש in terms of language, mathematics, literature, philosophy, law, and logic, all of which religious studies encompass. The only difference is that these subjects must never contradict the Torah (e.g., evolution or atheism), otherwise the curriculum is osur min halocha, forbidden by Jewish Law. Certain secular knowledge is useful for learning certain Torah topics, such as anatomy for sh'chitah (slaughter), or arithmetic for eiruvin (shabbat walking limit) and succah (temporary dwelling hut). This is done bdi'aved, meaning only to the extent that it is useful for one's Torah studies.


When you bring out Hebrew for the juelz :mjlol:

He said, "sure it looks basic now but what if I move the goal posts back three thousand years" :russ:

Pathetic
 

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Aye we get it :hubie:

But others have similar value systems and the alphabet guys don't let up
Jews have been subject to the relatively constant woes of g'zeirus hashmod—a period when gentiles are trying to force Jews to violate the Torah and abandon Judaism—for over two thousand years (and counting). It's just more subtle nowadays, and less violent.
 

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Because it's a goyishe country, and therefore a simple play-on-words.


It's not run by Jews. Influence =/= Control. And that's beside the point.
An American citizen can protest the American flag or the national anthem and keep his state govt. job. In several states, that same person can lose their state govt. job if they participate in BDS, protesting the policies of a foreign govt.

You think that's not control?
 
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