Origins of German Antisemitism and the Holocaust

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YES, WE KNOW JEWS GOT UP OUT OF THEIR OPRESSION AND ARE FINALLY THRIVING
Well recent times is what is provable. The past, we disagree on because I dont say your people are the people of the book. And yea the oppression continuing for blacks, and the "oppression" your people went thru being overly-rectified to the extent that people are punished for questioning the event, is proof that the two arent comparable.

SIMILAR, THATS ARGUABLE

Well yea, thats what I said. They are similar. Different euro cacs have different looks but at the end of the day, they look similar...
 

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Well recent times is what is provable. The past, we disagree on because I dont say your people are the people of the book. And yea the oppression continuing for blacks, and the "oppression" your people went thru being overly-rectified to the extent that people are punished for questioning the event, is proof that the two arent comparable.



Well yea, thats what I said. They are similar. Different euro cacs have different looks but at the end of the day, they look similar...

HOPEFULLY ONE DAY YOUR PEOPLE CAN GET THERE TOO .. AND THE LIST I POSTED WAS FROM RECORDED HISTORY, NOT EVEN COUNTING THE ENSLAVEMENT IN EGYPT (WHICH U CLAIM WAS BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA)

THE POINT IS THAT ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS THEY WERE KILLED WAS FOR NOT BEING WHITE .. WHETHER WE WANA CONSIDER THEM WHITE OR NOT DOESNT REALLY MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE AGAIN, RACE IS A MADE UP SOCIAL CONSTRUCT. WHAT WE CAN PROVE WIT 100% CERTAINTY IS THAT THEYRE DIFFERENT GENETICALLY, ETHNICALLY, AND HAVE UNIQUE FEATURES THAT SEPERATE THEM.
 

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You need to stop trying to piggyback struggles because its a farce, jews were not kidnapped, enslaved and sent to europe to build Germany. They immigrated, were well connected and held many positions in power of government and finance.

Jews in USA hold an obscene amount of consolidated power in finance, government and media in comparison to their population size. They constantly intermarry with cacs to deepen the bonds with their host USA like a parasite. Quick to get you fired and financialy ruined if you speak out about them but silent on issues that dont affect them

Its not just germany, they were kicked out of MANY countries throughout history for their use of usary banking that creates debt slavery and ruin...

they ARE communist... the entire ideology of Jewdism is that everyone except them are bottom feeding cattle, animals with no soul that need to be ruled over because Jews are "superior and chosen". Communism is a perfect system where they rule over us and dictate everything like a slavemaster.

Pimping out AA entertainers and athletes for damn near a CENTURY enriching themselves and destroying multiple genres of music....

you have a lot of nerve comparing the holocaust to whats happening with AA here when we are not a a real threat, all you are doing is deflecting trying to use AA as a buffer... we are not the ones that control banking and hollywood YOU are!

what about the 100s of millions of native russians and chinese that were killed, raped, starved and tortured by jewish communist (Bolshevics/marx) which inspired Mao?

fukk outta here......

WRONG .. JEWS WERE KIDNAPPED AND ENSLAVED MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGHOUT HISTORY. AND ITS ACTUALLY AGAINST JUDAISM TO MARRY A NON-JEW. AS FAR AS “PIMPIN” BLACK ENTERTAINERS, THATS ONE WAY TO LOOK AT IT.. ANOTHER WOULD BE JEWS USING THEIR POWER TO GIVE BLACK ENTERTAINERS A PLATFORM AND PUTTING THEM IN THE FOREFRONT. THOSE ENTERTAINERS YOU SPEAK OF ARE VERY GLAD TO HAVE JEWS IN THEIR LIVES, BELIEVE THAT. U CAN PAINT A NEGATIVE PICTURE ALL U WANT, BUT JEWS ARE UNDENIABLY THE ULTIMATE RAGS TO RICHES STORY.
 

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HOPEFULLY ONE DAY YOUR PEOPLE CAN GET THERE TOO

You keep your hope to yourself breh. Yall didnt rely on hope. Yall had bankers working the back scenes to make those things come to fruition. And they did a great job at getting other countries to pay them for their "suffering" while black people havent received one lump sum for all that they went thru. I mean, why is it illegal to question the holocaust?

.. AND THE LIST I POSTED WAS FROM RECORDED HISTORY,

Sure. I just disagree that people in say Christopher Columbus times, thought Jews were white Euros...

THE POINT IS THAT ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS THEY WERE KILLED WAS FOR NOT BEING WHITE ..

No thats narrative and goes back to what the brother who got warned for saying Hitler wanted them out because of their elite having control of the money supply/banks said. Whether true or not, thats Hitler's reasoning for wanting them out of Germany.
 

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You keep your hope to yourself breh. Yall didnt rely on hope. Yall had bankers working the back scenes to make those things come to fruition. And they did a great job at getting other countries to pay them for their "suffering" while black people havent received one lump sum for all that they went thru. I mean, why is it illegal to question the holocaust?



Sure. I just disagree that people in say Christopher Columbus times, thought Jews were white Euros...



No thats narrative and goes back to what the brother who got warned for saying Hitler wanted them out because of their elite having control of the money supply/banks said. Whether true or not, thats Hitler's reasoning for wanting them out of Germany.


NAAH I DONT KEEP MY HOPE TO MYSELF, I PUT THAT OUT THERE IN THE UNIVERSE. YOU SHOULD TOO. YOU NEED TO PICTURE THINGS HAPPENING AND SEE THEM AS POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO ATTRACT IT INTO ACTUALITY. ENERGY IS REAL, AND IF U KEEP BELIEVING SOMETHINGS IMPOSSIBLE, IT WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME SO.

U REALIZE THERE ARE LEGITIMATE DEPICTIONS OF THE CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS TIMES RIGHT? LOL - THERES RECORDED PROOF THAT JEWS WERE NOT BLACK BACK THEN. I HOPE THATS NOT WHAT U TRYNA CLAIM BRUH.

AGAIN, THATS NOT WHY HE GOT WARNED LOL AND ONE OF HITLERS PRIMARY TALKING POINTS WAS ALWAYS THAT THE JEWS WERE SUBHUMAN AND DIDNT HAVE PURE WHITE ARYAN BLOOD.. THATS INDISPUTABLE.
 

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Because the other thread was closed and sent to the rafters for a lot of crap being posted (while I was writing this) I think this overall explanation is useful for people who still have questions about this:

Here's the cliffnote version:

Germany, like many European countries, had always had antisemitism but ironically, up until the end of WWI, Jews looked at Germany as one of the more tolerant places for Jews in Europe. German universities admitted Jews before many in the UK and France (helping create many great scientists) and the leaders of Imperial Germany didn't feel a need to gin up antisemitism for power. They actually hated Catholics and Poles and made them the big scapegoat for some time. There were big exceptions though like Jews couldn't really get promoted in the bureaucracy or German military officer corps.

When WWI hit, Germany was seemingly united, Jew and gentile. The UK Balfour declaration supporting a Jewish state in Palestine was actually in part to win over the sympathy of Jews who didn't really hate Germany. After WWI ended though, it all went to shyt.

Germany lost WWI. There are a lot of reasons why (hint: 2 front war, blockade of raw materials by British) but much of the anger turned within against those who they claimed 'stabbed Germany in the back'. Why Jews though? First, the new Weimar Republic had many prominent Jews and swept away a lot of antisemitism. Second, Germany was suffering since it had to pay war debts and in the hyperinflation and shortages of the 20s, conspiracies about the financial sector, parasites, etc. began to emerge. Walther Rathenau, foreign minister, was a Jew who negotiated a lessening of the debts but did not advocate for Germany claiming it was 'wronged' by the allies and was killed by right wing Jewish youths who believed 'fake news' circulating that his father was a Russian communist.

Some other things were going on too. The Russian Revolution scared middle classes in Europe. Many prominent Russian communists like Trotsky were Jewish. In addition, a group of communists tried a coup in Munich setting up a Soviet Republic and taking hostages. They were led by Rosa Luxemberg, another Jew. They were put down by right wing German paramilitaries, the Freikorps along with German troops. The vast, vast majority of Jews were not communist even though some prominent communists were Jews (actually they were most likely to be self-employed) but propaganda only needs a few good examples to get going. So the Jew=Communist meme took hold. Most Jews voted for the socialist or social democratic parties even though they were capitalists for the same reason most Blacks vote Democrat--all the center right and right wing German parties hated Jews.

Also, because of the Russian Revolution and violence against Jews in the newly independent East European countries, there was massive illegal immigration of East European Jews into Germany where they thought they were safe. Everyone hated them. Even German Jews hated them and were 'embarrassed' by them since they were less educated and more prone to crime (sound familiar?). Albert Einstein actually wrote a public letter to a prominent Jewish organization essentially calling them a bunch of c00ns and fukkboys for abandoning the E. European Jews (Einstein was a Zionist and they generally were more sympathetic like Black Power advocates in our community are more sympathetic to poor Blacks).

Jews became the scapegoat for what was wrong in Germany but Hitler wasn't dumb. At first he said 'only the bad Jews' would be targeted even though he ranted against them all. When he became chancellor, most Jews thought he would need them as part of Germany's economy. Some even gave him tepid support or turned on other Jews hoping they would be accepted (see Fritz Haber's story).

The Nuremberg Laws in the 1930s pretty much segregated Jews and prevented intermarriage like Jim Crow in America. The smart people got out then, many of the rest were eventually killed or nearly killed in camps. The major slaughter didn't start until WWII though. Many historians debate when Hitler actually decided on mass extermination. Is that what his plan always was or did the war put a battery back in another, less lethal plan. There are a lot of books on this.

If you really want to learn about Jews in German society from WWI to the Holocaust, read The Jews of Weimar Germany by John Niewyk. It is worth the read. The comparisons between East European Jews and poor Blacks is a bit haunting. I don't trust c00ns and their optimism partially because of this book.
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NAAH I DONT KEEP MY HOPE TO MYSELF,

You should because your people didnt hope. They worked behind the scenes to get what they want. Hope is irrelevant if you're not going to put the work in. You're not going to put the work in for my people, so thats why I suggested you keep it to yourself. Of course you dont have to but yea, if you're not willing to put the work in for them to get their own homeland, have your people give some of those billions they receive from America every year redirected to them, and offer them the protection America gets, to their newly found homeland, then its just talk.

I asked you a question. Why is it illegal to even question the holocaust in countries that had nothing to do with the holocaust?

U REALIZE THERE ARE LEGITIMATE DEPICTIONS OF THE CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS TIMES RIGHT?

Where did Christopher Columbus think "Israel" was?

AGAIN, THATS NOT WHY HE GOT WARNED LOL

It couldnt be anything else. Because he said that Hitler used physical violence and the bankers used economic violence. He said nothing of them being "subhuman"

AND ONE OF HITLERS PRIMARY TALKING POINTS WAS ALWAYS THAT THE JEWS WERE SUBHUMAN AND DIDNT HAVE PURE WHITE ARYAN BLOOD.. THATS INDISPUTABLE.

Lets start here before we go any further down this road. Can you bring a quote of him saying that?
 

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Of course not. This isnt a competition. But comparing blacks who are hated around the world and cant change their name to fit in with cacs like the jew cacs can, isnt a comparison in the slightest.



Lets not add onto what was originally stated:


"Yeah basically Jews took the first swing with economic violence and Hitler followed up with the physical. It’s just like how you have Jews controlling large banks and enterprises here in the USA and have the power to plunge millions into poverty at any given time and often times do.

However, they control the media which controls the narrative and their actions are never exposed as violence...it’s always “unforeseen market forces” or some bullshyt. But the people waiting in soup lines and dying of starvation surely see it as violence, hence Hitler. He basically said “y’all wanna hide behind your ledgers and fukk over my people...I got something for your asses” hence final solution. Israel works hard every day to justify Hitler’s stance for some reason."

And this is why in many countries its illegal to question the holocaust :coffee:
Explain how the Jews put Germany into financial ruin when the German economy surged post WW1 and only collapsed because of the Great Depression in the United States.

Are you claiming Jews caused the great depression?
 

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You should because your people didnt hope. They worked behind the scenes to get what they want. Hope is irrelevant if you're not going to put the work in. You're not going to put the work in for my people, so thats why I suggested you keep it to yourself. Of course you dont have to but yea, if you're not willing to put the work in for them to get their own homeland, have your people give some of those billions they receive from America every year redirected to them, and offer them the protection America gets, to their newly found homeland, then its just talk.

I asked you a question. Why is it illegal to even question the holocaust in countries that had nothing to do with the holocaust?



Where did Christopher Columbus think "Israel" was?



It couldnt be anything else. Because he said that Hitler used physical violence and the bankers used economic violence. He said nothing of them being "subhuman"



Lets start here before we go any further down this road. Can you bring a quote of him saying that?


IT ALWAYS STARTS WIT HOPE AND PRAYER .. NO ONE KNOWS BETTER THAN ME WHAT MY PEOPLE BELIEVE AND WHAT WE DO IN ORDER TO MAKE SHIIT HAPPEN. TRUST ME. OF COURSE U GOTA PUT THE WORK IN, BUT IT STARTS WIT VISUALIZING.

I DUNO WHY.. MY PEOPLE, DESPITE BEING A VAST MINORITY, HAVE A WAY OF GETTIN CRAZY SHIIT DONE AND MAKIN THINGS HAPPEN- IT IS WHAT IT IS.

BRUH, STOP IT LMAO.. THIS IS MY GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT+ GRANDFATHER

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^THATS A PORTRAIT OF HIM FROM 1150 .. HISTORY WAS BEING RECORDED AND DOCUMENTED WELL BEFORE COLUMBUS.. YOU ARE TRYING WAY TOO HARD RIGHT NOW.

AGAIN, HE SAID THE JEWS WERE THE SAME AS HITLER AND THAT CONTROLLING BANKS WAS EQUIVALENT TO EXTERMINATING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE LOL - STOP THE CHARADE. ARE U SERIOUS? GO READ MEIN KAMPF MY FRIEND - UR REALLY UNAWARE OF HITLERS “PERSERVING THE ARYAN RACE” TALKING POINTS? LOL
 

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Explain how the Jews put Germany into financial ruin when the German economy surged post WW1 and only collapsed because of the Great Depression in the United States.

False. Germany's economy went into the drain after WW1 because of sanctions which gave way to Hitler coming into power.

Are you claiming Jews caused the great depression?

Well I'd say the banks caused the great depression. If the banks are majority owned by people who call themselves Jews then.... :yeshrug:
 

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IT ALWAYS STARTS WIT HOPE AND PRAYER

Thats where you want to start and keep it. Thats why I asked you if you're willing to redirect some of those billions America is giving your people to help black people establish their land you say nothing. I asked do you want to redirect the defense that UK/America uses to protect Israel to protect this hypothetical black homeland and you say nothing. You dont care for putting in the work to help them get what your people get and thats fine. But keep your "all talk" nonsense to yourself.
I DUNO WHY..

Ok you dont know why its illegal to even question the holocaust in several countries that had nothing to do with said holocaust. Now that thats established, why did they make it illegal to question the holocaust?

BRUH, STOP IT

I asked a simple question. Where did Colombus believe Israel was? I didnt even ask you where Israel was, I asked you where one man believed it to be...

AGAIN, HE SAID THE JEWS WERE THE SAME AS HITLER AND THAT CONTROLLING BANKS WAS EQUIVALENT TO EXTERMINATING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE

No. He said that the banks utilized economic violence and that Hitler utilized physical violence. You're putting words in his mouth because he never said they were equal or that Hitler was or wasnt justified in what he did. If Im wrong bring the quote where he said it was "equal" or "equivalent" because you like to say things about what other people say but when asked to bring their words, you have nothing. Which leads to this:

GO READ MEIN KAMPF MY FRIEND

I want YOU to support what YOU are saying. Can you bring the quote where he says what you are saying he said?
 

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False. Germany's economy went into the drain after WW1 because of sanctions which gave way to Hitler coming into power.

The German economy made a steady recovery after WW1 because the US needed a strong German economy for trade.

The amount the Germans were supposed to pay the allies (the US assumed most of the debt) was the same amount they forced France to pay after the Franco Prussian war.

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German economy didn't go into the tank until the great depression which sent every major world power into the conomic tank.

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If the Germans would've won World War 1 they wouldve assumed all of Frances colonies in Africa and more of this would've happened

Herero and Namaqua genocide - Wikipedia


Don't feel bad for them or think the Jews had anything to do with their militaristic national identity


WellI'd say the banks caused the great depression. If the banks are majority owned by people who call themselves Jews then.... :yeshrug:


I think you'd be better at looking at the flaws of capitalism than blaming 10 million people most of which were impoverished and living in the ghettos of Eastern Europe in having omnipotent control of the economy
 

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The German economy made a steady recovery after WW1 because the US needed a strong German economy for trade.

The amount the Germans were supposed to pay the allies (the US assumed most of the debt) was the same amount they forced France to pay after the Franco Prussian war.
Im not sure where you're getting any of your information from breh. Germans felt they got screwed with the Treaty of Versailles which imposed that they had to pay hundreds of billions of dollars to the allied powers in reparations because of WW1. That happened around 1920 which is exactly why you see the drop around that time in the graph you brought.

German economy didn't go into the tank until the great depression which sent every major world power into the conomic tank.

What you're saying here is not based on the graph you brought then. Because the graph you brought shows the economy was at its worst during/after WW1 and WW2. The Great Depression happened somewhere between the late 20's to 30's which, according to the graph you brought, Germany was doing alot better than the time periods I just brought up.

If the Germans would've won World War 1 they wouldve assumed all of Frances colonies in Africa and more of this would've happened

Herero and Namaqua genocide - Wikipedia


Don't feel bad for them or think the Jews had anything to do with their militaristic national identity

I never said anything about "feeling bad for them"..



I think you'd be better at looking at the flaws of capitalism than blaming 10 million people most of which were impoverished and living in the ghettos of Eastern Europe in having omnipotent control of the economy

And I never blamed 10 million people. I said that the banks caused the Great Depression. If the people at the head of these banks are people that call themselves Jewish then people can draw their own conclusions based on that. That has nothing to do with rest of their population having nothing to do with the banking sector THOUGH the rest of the population can benefit from favoritory loans that may be thrown their way to start businesses. Right or wrong, Hitler saw this happening to his country and used it as a pretense for his plan. Whether this was actually happening or was just jealousy on the part of a nation that was struggling and saw people within its borders that werent isnt really relevant. THAT is what the origin of german "antisemitism" is. Not the "they werent white like us" narrative that is pushed nowadays...
 

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Thats where you want to start and keep it. Thats why I asked you if you're willing to redirect some of those billions America is giving your people to help black people establish their land you say nothing. I asked do you want to redirect the defense that UK/America uses to protect Israel to protect this hypothetical black homeland and you say nothing. You dont care for putting in the work to help them get what your people get and thats fine. But keep your "all talk" nonsense to yourself.


Ok you dont know why its illegal to even question the holocaust in several countries that had nothing to do with said holocaust. Now that thats established, why did they make it illegal to question the holocaust?



I asked a simple question. Where did Colombus believe Israel was? I didnt even ask you where Israel was, I asked you where one man believed it to be...



No. He said that the banks utilized economic violence and that Hitler utilized physical violence. You're putting words in his mouth because he never said they were equal or that Hitler was or wasnt justified in what he did. If Im wrong bring the quote where he said it was "equal" or "equivalent" because you like to say things about what other people say but when asked to bring their words, you have nothing. Which leads to this:



I want YOU to support what YOU are saying. Can you bring the quote where he says what you are saying he said?


FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE NO POWER TO “REDIRECT BILLIONS” ANYWHERE LMFAO .. BUT REGARDLESS, THATS SOMETHING U GOTA EARN ON YOUR OWN, ITS UP TO YOU TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN .. NOT ME. THAT MENTALITY YOU MOVIN WIT IS VERY FEMININE AND WONT GET YOU FAR.

I DONT GIVE A FUCC ABOUT WHY ITS ILLEGAL TO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST. BUT THATS DOPE THO ... POWER MOVES. STRIVE TO GET ON THAT LEVEL INSTEAD OF INJECTING HATE AND ENVY. DUNO WHAT THIS HAS TO DO WIT ANYTHING THO? YOU KEEP RANDOMLY MENTIONING THIS AS IF I ARGUED IT OR DENIED IT. STRANGE.

I CAN CARE LESS ABOUT WHAT COLUMBUS BELIEVES .. ACCORDING TO MANY HISTORIANS, HE DIDNT EVEN KNOW AMERICA EXISTED AND LANDED THERE ACCIDENTALLY. WE ALREADY HAD THIS DISCUSSION IN THE PAST.....

WRONG .. READ THE QUOTE AGAIN. HE SAID JEWS N HITLER WAS THE SAME. THE QUOTE WAS ALREADY POSTED IN HERE, CHECK A COUPLE PAGES BACK.

SAME WIT MEIN KAMPF.. DENYING THAT ONE OF HITLERS PRIMARY TALKING POINT WAS PRESERVING THE ARYAN RACE IS LUDICROUS. ITS LIKE IF I ASKED YOU TO SHOW ME QUOTES OF DONALD TRUMP CLAIMING HE WANTS TO BUILD A WALL LMAO. YOU SUFFER FROM CONFIRMATION BIAS. ONE OF THE MOST TERRIBLE CASES IVE EVER SEEN TBH.
 

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This thread is simplistic and totally naive. Offering explanations out of any history book, not adding anything of value.

As for this fukking lunatic raving about “Jewish Bolshevism” like its 1933 Berlin
You need to stop trying to piggyback struggles because its a farce, jews were not kidnapped, enslaved and sent to europe to build Germany. They immigrated, were well connected and held many positions in power of government and finance.

Jews in USA hold an obscene amount of consolidated power in finance, government and media in comparison to their population size. They constantly intermarry with cacs to deepen the bonds with their host USA like a parasite. Quick to get you fired and financialy ruined if you speak out about them but silent on issues that dont affect them

Its not just germany, they were kicked out of MANY countries throughout history for their use of usary banking that creates debt slavery and ruin...

they ARE communist... the entire ideology of Jewdism is that everyone except them are bottom feeding cattle, animals with no soul that need to be ruled over because Jews are "superior and chosen". Communism is a perfect system where they rule over us and dictate everything like a slavemaster.

Pimping out AA entertainers and athletes for damn near a CENTURY enriching themselves and destroying multiple genres of music....

you have a lot of nerve comparing the holocaust to whats happening with AA here when we are not a a real threat, all you are doing is deflecting trying to use AA as a buffer... we are not the ones that control banking and hollywood YOU are!

what about the 100s of millions of native russians and chinese that were killed, raped, starved and tortured by jewish communist (Bolshevics/marx) which inspired Mao?

fukk outta here......
This guy is an outright Nazi.
 
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