One thing I will say about Drake

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Kendrick and Asap were already primed to blow. Snoop, Dre, and Game literally stood on stage and anointed Kendrick. Without Drake and that tour both of them would’ve been successful which is evidenced by neither of them working with him after their first albums
This is a joke. Kendrick wasn't selling or doing shyt. He lowkey had the industry behind him. But still didn't. Drake gave that nikka a solo song on one of the biggest albums of the year. ASAP has said out his own mouth Drake helped put him on. Same way ASAP helped Playboi Carti. U can hate that nikka Drake and still be honest. We grown men bro.
 

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Drake without working with them 8x platinum albums, #1 hits

The coli: They gave him credibility!!

Can't discuss Drake with these dikkriding internet boys anymore, it's like how it was with Jay back in the days, or how it still is with Eminem. Just a bunch of delusional haters in their deepest feelings about celebrities :scust:
 
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The biggest misconception of the "Drake put nikkaz on" narrative is that they owe Drake undying loyalty. In actuality, Drake benefited from almost every collaboration he's done just as much as the artists he co-signed.

Drake did give Kendrick more promo, but Drake been trying to get features with Cali rappers Like Kendrick, Tyga, The Game, and YG. That was also when Hyphy got really popular on the net and radio.

While The Weeknd was underground, he did have a following, especially in Toronto. The Weeknd's production was more eerie but more enticing than Drake's production and he wanted the sound. That's why he wanted Abel to give up his songs to put it on Take Care. Then Drake did more features with him on 'Thursday' and 'Kiss Land" . Both of them were highly praised for being the new duos putting Toronto on the map. BOTH. The Weeknd then signed with Republic Records and Drake got mad because he wanted him to sign with OVO. I don't care what anybody says, Abel was smart and took his own route. He would not be getting #1s being under Drake.

Drake fans will deny this all they want, but if it wasn't for Future, he wouldn't get further with his career. Future was already heavy in Atlanta and Drake completely changed his style to copy Future's drip.


EXACTLY

People have really taken Drake’s “help” too far like he’s Gandhi of the rap game (well Gandhi had questionable relations with underaged children so they might be onto something) when every single artist he’s “helped” was nothing more than mutually beneficial career advancement. And some artists like Kendrick and The Weeknd completely understood it for it was whilst others like Future and Metro seemed to peep it later when Drake did some snake/funny shyt.


The funny thing is nobody under the OVO tents have experienced a TENTH of the success that Kendrick, Weeknd, Migos, Asap, or Future have. If Drake had this green thumb to magically catapult careers then why aren’t DVSN and Majid Jordan on Weeknd’s level? Where’s Roy Woods Grammys and Pulitzer Prizes? Who the hell has ever even heard a song from Naomi Sharon? What the hell is going on?!?!


Hell Baby Keem has a platinum solo album and a grammy from working with Kendrick. Jay Rock’s highest charting song which led to both his AND Future’s first Grammy is from working with Kendrick. Ab-Soul’s ONLY certifications come from working with Kendrick. Rapsody’s mainstream introduction and breakthrough came from working with Kendrick. We should be talking about the Kendrick stimulus more than the Drake stimulus as Kendrick’s co-sign seems to have actual longterm career benefits.
 
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This is a joke. Kendrick wasn't selling or doing shyt. He lowkey had the industry behind him. But still didn't. Drake gave that nikka a solo song on one of the biggest albums of the year. ASAP has said out his own mouth Drake helped put him on. Same way ASAP helped Playboi Carti. U can hate that nikka Drake and still be honest. We grown men bro.


Either you have the industry behind you or you don’t. Ain’t no half steppin. The FACT is that Dr Dre, Snoop Dogg, and The Game (two of them big Interscope artists at the time) literally got on a stage and told the world Kendrick had next. Your not getting that type of co-sign if there aren’t plans for you to be big. TDE and Interscope had a plan for Kendrick and it was going to be put into effect whether or not he went on tour with Drake. Same thing with Asap, he had the biggest organic buzz any NYC rapper had had since maybe Papoose and Saigon in the early 2000’s and was already signed to RCA. Both of them were ascending rapidly, i’d go as far as to suggest that fukkin Problems would have been a hit song without Drake and would GUARANTEE that Good Kid M.A.A.D City would have been the classic hit album it was without Drake’s feature but that would involve arguing alternate history which isn’t constructive to the conversation.

But we do have evidence that both Asap and Kendrick’s careers ascended without them ever working with Drake again after their debuts. Asap’s best selling album has no Drake feature whatsoever. Drake mocked the control verse and said that Kendrick was going to fail because nobody was going to feature on his followup album and Kendrick put out TPAB which was not only his first number 1 album, but the highest critically acclaimed album of that year and beat out EVERY Drake song and album at that the next year’s Grammys.

Drake drew for Kendrick and Asap because he saw what everybody else with two eyes, two ears and common sense saw. That these two were the next up and it was better to align with them than against them. Same thing with Future, he went from hopping on the Tony Montana remix and ghosting the video shoot to doing full length albums with Future once it was proven he could stand as a superstar on his own. He hopped on Weeknd’s wave when it was proven people were fukking with his sound. Weeknd said fukk that lil bro shyt and went onto becoming the biggest black pop star of the past decade.

Now if you want to give Drake kudos for recognizing the waves of bubbling artists just before they pop on their own then be my guest. But him giving these career altering boasts is massively overhyped. Especially when all of these artists biggest successes came independent of Drake. Weeknd and Kendrick especially said “fukk that lil bro/homie/ghostwriter” box Drake was trying to put them in and went onto to become genre defining artists.
 

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Either you have the industry behind you or you don’t. Ain’t no half steppin. The FACT is that Dr Dre, Snoop Dogg, and The Game (two of them big Interscope artists at the time) literally got on a stage and told the world Kendrick had next. Your not getting that type of co-sign if there aren’t plans for you to be big. TDE and Interscope had a plan for Kendrick and it was going to be put into effect whether or not he went on tour with Drake. Same thing with Asap, he had the biggest organic buzz any NYC rapper had had since maybe Papoose and Saigon in the early 2000’s and was already signed to RCA. Both of them were ascending rapidly, i’d go as far as to suggest that fukkin Problems would have been a hit song without Drake and would GUARANTEE that Good Kid M.A.A.D City would have been the classic hit album it was without Drake’s feature but that would involve arguing alternate history which isn’t constructive to the conversation.

But we do have evidence that both Asap and Kendrick’s careers ascended without them ever working with Drake again after their debuts. Asap’s best selling album has no Drake feature whatsoever. Drake mocked the control verse and said that Kendrick was going to fail because nobody was going to feature on his followup album and Kendrick put out TPAB which was not only his first number 1 album, but the highest critically acclaimed album of that year and beat out EVERY Drake song and album at that the next year’s Grammys.

Drake drew for Kendrick and Asap because he saw what everybody else with two eyes, two ears and common sense saw. That these two were the next up and it was better to align with them than against them. Same thing with Future, he went from hopping on the Tony Montana remix and ghosting the video shoot to doing full length albums with Future once it was proven he could stand as a superstar on his own. He hopped on Weeknd’s wave when it was proven people were fukking with his sound. Weeknd said fukk that lil bro shyt and went onto becoming the biggest black pop star of the past decade.

Now if you want to give Drake kudos for recognizing the waves of bubbling artists just before they pop on their own then be my guest. But him giving these career altering boasts is massively overhyped. Especially when all of these artists biggest successes came independent of Drake. Weeknd and Kendrick especially said “fukk that lil bro/homie/ghostwriter” box Drake was trying to put them in and went onto to become genre defining artists.
So I guess ASAP saying Drake was the first one to give him a shot out his own mouth is some bullshyt huh? To deny what he's done for them is insane to me. Imagine Nas gave a nikka he wasn't signing a solo song on his biggest selling album. Took him on tour. And even featured on one of his lead singles and nikkas turn around and say Nas didn't help him. Lol. U would be fuming and singing a whole different tune. Like I said bro we grown men it's catty to ignore logic based on emotion. Bottom line is Drake helped them nikkas. All that woulda shoulda coulda shyt is irrelevant.
 

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damn breh you typed all of that and failed to understand the OP.

OP literally said "Is helped put on more rappers then his elders." and "I can’t front the boy did help a lot of nikkaz."

not that they wouldn't have popped or not without drake. that he helped them. and theres no doubt he helped them.
I typed all that to show he didn't put them on. Them nikkas was already on.
 
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Either you have the industry behind you or you don’t. Ain’t no half steppin. The FACT is that Dr Dre, Snoop Dogg, and The Game (two of them big Interscope artists at the time) literally got on a stage and told the world Kendrick had next. Your not getting that type of co-sign if there aren’t plans for you to be big. TDE and Interscope had a plan for Kendrick and it was going to be put into effect whether or not he went on tour with Drake. Same thing with Asap, he had the biggest organic buzz any NYC rapper had had since maybe Papoose and Saigon in the early 2000’s and was already signed to RCA. Both of them were ascending rapidly, i’d go as far as to suggest that fukkin Problems would have been a hit song without Drake and would GUARANTEE that Good Kid M.A.A.D City would have been the classic hit album it was without Drake’s feature but that would involve arguing alternate history which isn’t constructive to the conversation.

But we do have evidence that both Asap and Kendrick’s careers ascended without them ever working with Drake again after their debuts. Asap’s best selling album has no Drake feature whatsoever. Drake mocked the control verse and said that Kendrick was going to fail because nobody was going to feature on his followup album and Kendrick put out TPAB which was not only his first number 1 album, but the highest critically acclaimed album of that year and beat out EVERY Drake song and album at that the next year’s Grammys.

Drake drew for Kendrick and Asap because he saw what everybody else with two eyes, two ears and common sense saw. That these two were the next up and it was better to align with them than against them. Same thing with Future, he went from hopping on the Tony Montana remix and ghosting the video shoot to doing full length albums with Future once it was proven he could stand as a superstar on his own. He hopped on Weeknd’s wave when it was proven people were fukking with his sound. Weeknd said fukk that lil bro shyt and went onto becoming the biggest black pop star of the past decade.

Now if you want to give Drake kudos for recognizing the waves of bubbling artists just before they pop on their own then be my guest. But him giving these career altering boasts is massively overhyped. Especially when all of these artists biggest successes came independent of Drake. Weeknd and Kendrick especially said “fukk that lil bro/homie/ghostwriter” box Drake was trying to put them in and went onto to become genre defining artists.


@Ziggiy dropping some shyt:wow:

tryna rep you but i cant
 
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