One more Chip, still 5 rings: Official 49ers 2016 Offseason Thread

[LastEmperor2k2]

fukk picking a QB on the first. No, just....no

If we trading Kaep we better get a good fukking deal for him. If Baalke could turn Alex in good picks, he better work his magic again

Alex was coming off the best 2 years of his career.

Kaepernick is coming off of a decline EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

It's easy to think one was trending up while the other is trending down.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

honestly i think part of it is being an adult... he shouldn't of signed the contract if he didn't want to stay

kids these days can't just run away from what's bothering them

man the f*ck up and play out the contract you signed

just mho

That's always been the deal with Kaep, he's a 27 going on 17.

Soft ass dude, insecure and fragile. That's why he's bolting as soon as possible. I wonder how many haters he is retweeting nowadays

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

I don't buy that. It's too easy to be out of the league quick.

Only place I'd seek to go if I'm Kaep is Houston or even Denver. Denver wouldn't need to tag Osweiler if they trade for Kaep. He'd be cheaper for em. Kaep on that bootleg


I'd like to at least see Kaep in Chip's offense first before we allow him to bounce. I got a horrible feeling that he'd excel somewhere else and we'd become even more of a joke of an organization.

I honestly think it would be the perfect spot for him.

That defense won a SB with awful ass Peyton. Kaep would cost less than Peyton did and is on that year to year contract.

Colin can be carried by the defense in Denver just like he was in SF

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

he finna be 37...but if theres an ounce of truth to this rumor, its the ultimate insult

Only reason he`d want to return is for a ring, so i got no beef with him not wanting to be a 49er.

Cowboy always been a legendary 49er, stand up dude through and through. We`d be wasting his time and it would be a waste of ours too, we got young players to develop.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Free agency is going to be bad, having 50 mil and nobody to spend it on

Charity starts at home, pay our own people first.

IAN

But then, there will be some pieces, winning FA don't mean much, we just gotta get some pieces here and there and have a good draft

 

[Rekkapryde]

Colin can be carried by the defense in Denver just like he was in SF

We are not gonna sit here and act like Colin didn't make hella plays during the Harb years. That's incredibly disingenuous. I know you don't like dude but don't lie like that bruh. That's complete bullshyt.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

We are not gonna sit here and act like Colin didn't make hella plays during the Harb years. That's incredibly disingenuous. I know you don't like dude but don't lie like that bruh. That's complete bullshyt.

The 2012 run he played great in the playoffs, no denying that.

For the majority of his success here, he was HEAVILY carried by the defense though.

Even in the 2012 NFC championship, defense shut out Atlanta in the 2nd half to make that comeback happen.

There are too many games where Colin threw for under 200 or even 150 yards and we won with absolutely ZERO contribution from him, he was carried by the D. Denver could carry him again.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

For all those delusional Colin stans, here is where your boo boo might be heading, so check out StubHub for tickets for these squads. Also, we ain't getting shyt for him, because he's a bad QB


Clayton: Trade market for Colin Kaepernick will be limited

God I hope we trade em to LA, two easy wins every year.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Cats so hard on on Colin but no one hard on the other players.... I dont get it

If yall want him bad so badly then why do yall still want and believe in RB's that cant stay healthy or even get the needed rushing yards and 1st downs on a consistent basis. Shouldnt we get rid of them too?

Why dont we get rid of Olinemen who can protect worth a shyt and allow so many sacks and not give our QB's enough time to do anything and being the real sources of our passing problems and stunt our running game.

Speaking of passing problems, why dont we just get rid of all our WR's I mean Boldin is old right, Torrey Smith is really a bum, Simpson cant catch, Patton and Ellington have regressed. No need to keep any of them right.

shyt.... I guess we should just nuke this entire team.

No one wants to talk about Reid regressing

I mean really.... whats a new QB.... especially a rookie QB gonna do to come in improve on a team that cant block, cant run, cant catch?

Oh thats right..... will just not give him an opp to grow and blame everything on him and watch the draft for the next QB

Use. Wash. Repeat

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Cats so hard on on Colin but no one hard on the other players.... I dont get it

If yall want him bad so badly then why do yall still want and believe in RB's that cant stay healthy or even get the needed rushing yards and 1st downs on a consistent basis. Shouldnt we get rid of them too?

Why dont we get rid of Olinemen who can protect worth a shyt and allow so many sacks and not give our QB's enough time to do anything and being the real sources of our passing problems and stunt our running game.

Speaking of passing problems, why dont we just get rid of all our WR's I mean Boldin is old right, Torrey Smith is really a bum, Simpson cant catch, Patton and Ellington have regressed. No need to keep any of them right.

shyt.... I guess we should just nuke this entire team.

No one wants to talk about Reid regressing

I mean really.... whats a new QB.... especially a rookie QB gonna do to come in improve on a team that cant block, cant run, cant catch?

Oh thats right..... will just not give him an opp to grow and blame everything on him and watch the draft for the next QB

Use. Wash. Repeat

People are hard on other players too, this is QB driven game, bottom line.

When you make the amount of $ he does your gonna get the criticism of the praise.

You know better, don't try and play stupid to protect your boy. You`ll find plenty of posts shytting on guys like McDonald, Eric Pears, Jordan Devey, Corey Lemoier etc...

 

[Rekkapryde]

The 2012 run he played great in the playoffs, no denying that.

For the majority of his success here, he was HEAVILY carried by the defense though.

Even in the 2012 NFC championship, defense shut out Atlanta in the 2nd half to make that comeback happen.

There are too many games where Colin threw for under 200 or even 150 yards and we won with absolutely ZERO contribution from him, he was carried by the D. Denver could carry him again.

Defense def did their thing in the 2nd half vs the Falcons (I was at that game ), but again shutting out a team but not scoring does absolutely nothing. We put up 28 and he had no turnovers.

Outside of that horrific Cards game last year what were his "terrible" games other than that? We all saw our o-line was trash. A 6/1 TD to int ratio outside of that game isn't terrible. And we continue to bring up his passing stats completely ignoring his running stats during the period. Same shyt cats tried to do with Cam. You can just Cuban B a whole nother aspect of his game.

In 2012
Colin Kaepernick

Where were these many games under 200 yards passing, I see 2 in 11 games. If you add in his running, that is only 1 game out of 11. And with the amount of points we were putting up, the notion that the defense was "carrying" him is completely false. We averaged 28 points a game during that season when he started. Carrying is very disingenuous man. VERY.


In 2013
Colin Kaepernick
You'd have more of an argument, but even then we averaged 25 a clip. The game we lost weren't to trash teams either. 25 ppg is not being carried.

Point being is that a dude with a near 90 Rating and over 2 to 1 int ratio is not "trash" and the fact we got him on a 360 music deal basically is even better. If there is even the remote chance that Chip can do something this dude, you don't let that go. Our team was TRASH personnel wise last year so while I do know why he got the blame, it's not like we were signficantly better once he was put on leave.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

People are hard on other players too, this is QB driven game, bottom line.

When you make the amount of $ he does your gonna get the criticism of the praise.

You know better, don't try and play stupid to protect your boy. You`ll find plenty of posts shytting on guys like McDonald, Eric Pears, Jordan Devey, Corey Lemoier etc...

Its not about protecting anyone.... but it is about really calling a spade a spade.

I've never really heard you for one say anything about them.

Going back to this "Defense carrying" shyt. Though I dont necessarily think that is true. But if so, so the fukk what? Did in the early part of their careers the Defense not heavily carry Ben and Brady? I wonder where would they be if teams didnt allow them to grow and just said "fukk it.... lets just cut them" after 3 years or so.

I guess thats the privilege and benefit to being good later in your career, people will absolutely ignore or forget about the times you was shyt or average.

Its crazy that if we'd got that PI call or kicked that FG and won the SB in OT, no one would even be hating on Kaep just like no one ever shytted on Flacco after having shytty season since then and no one ever says (hey lets get rid of Eli, the years after he won his lucky 2 SB)

And I'm tired of talking about his contract when the reality is.... its not hurting us or a bad one for us and he's making about what he should make. He not making more than Brady, Ben, Russ, etc cats but at the time more deserving he's making more than cats that he's done WAY more than ala Stafford, Hoyer, Sanchez, Fitzpatrick, etc

 

[FaTaL]

The 2012 run he played great in the playoffs, no denying that.

For the majority of his success here, he was HEAVILY carried by the defense though.

Even in the 2012 NFC championship, defense shut out Atlanta in the 2nd half to make that comeback happen.

There are too many games where Colin threw for under 200 or even 150 yards and we won with absolutely ZERO contribution from him, he was carried by the D. Denver could carry him again.

What great defense are you imaging?

The same defense that put this team in a giant hole against Atl or the great defense that threw up on themselves in the super bowl? The defense was trash when it really counted. Do we blame fangio or the players?

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Defense def did their thing in the 2nd half vs the Falcons (I was at that game ), but again shutting out a team but not scoring does absolutely nothing. We put up 28 and he had no turnovers.

Outside of that horrific Cards game last year what were his "terrible" games other than that? We all saw our o-line was trash. A 6/1 TD to int ratio outside of that game isn't terrible. And we continue to bring up his passing stats completely ignoring his running stats during the period. Same shyt cats tried to do with Cam. You can just Cuban B a whole nother aspect of his game.

In 2012
Colin Kaepernick

Where were these many games under 200 yards passing, I see 2 in 11 games. If you add in his running, that is only 1 game out of 11. And with the amount of points we were putting up, the notion that the defense was "carrying" him is completely false. We averaged 28 points a game during that season when he started. Carrying is very disingenuous man. VERY.


In 2013
Colin Kaepernick
You'd have more of an argument, but even then we averaged 25 a clip. The game we lost weren't to trash teams either. 25 ppg is not being carried.

Point being is that a dude with a near 90 Rating and over 2 to 1 int ratio is not "trash" and the fact we got him on a 360 music deal basically is even better. If there is even the remote chance that Chip can do something this dude, you don't let that go. Our team was TRASH personnel wise last year so while I do know why he got the blame, it's not like we were signficantly better once he was put on leave.

There were games where he either did his thing or played well enough not to lose the game but then the Defense collasped and we lost. Then the 1st things cats say is "Bu bu its Kaeps fault.... look at him!! BUUUUUUUUUM!"

No, you put up 4 TD's against the Chargers and even the D gets one..... there is no way in HELL the D is supposed to allow a team to come back from that deficit.

You go into the fukking 4th quarter against the Bears after leading the squad to a 20-7 lead, there is NO WAY IN HELL in the 4th quarter the D should give up 3 TD's.

And so on and so on.

 

[LastEmperor2k2]

Defense def did their thing in the 2nd half vs the Falcons (I was at that game ), but again shutting out a team but not scoring does absolutely nothing. We put up 28 and he had no turnovers.

Outside of that horrific Cards game last year what were his "terrible" games other than that? We all saw our o-line was trash. A 6/1 TD to int ratio outside of that game isn't terrible. And we continue to bring up his passing stats completely ignoring his running stats during the period. Same shyt cats tried to do with Cam. You can just Cuban B a whole nother aspect of his game.

In 2012
Colin Kaepernick

Where were these many games under 200 yards passing, I see 2 in 11 games. If you add in his running, that is only 1 game out of 11. And with the amount of points we were putting up, the notion that the defense was "carrying" him is completely false. We averaged 28 points a game during that season when he started. Carrying is very disingenuous man. VERY.


In 2013
Colin Kaepernick
You'd have more of an argument, but even then we averaged 25 a clip. The game we lost weren't to trash teams either. 25 ppg is not being carried.

Point being is that a dude with a near 90 Rating and over 2 to 1 int ratio is not "trash" and the fact we got him on a 360 music deal basically is even better. If there is even the remote chance that Chip can do something this dude, you don't let that go. Our team was TRASH personnel wise last year so while I do know why he got the blame, it's not like we were signficantly better once he was put on leave.

What the fukk is an 88.5 career QB rating in this league nowadays?

A pass happy league, that means nothing. Here is QB's with similar Career QB ratings

Jay Cutler 86
Ryan Tannehill 85.2
Andy Dalton 88.4
Carson Palmer 88.1
Matthew Stafford 85.1
Matt Schaub 89.1
Matt Ryan 90.9


So that tells you his story, he's nothing special, for a career he's better than some average QB's, but you can't continuously ignore the fact his career has trended downward every single season. Why ignore that?

If you had a stock that was falling year after year after year, at some point you might think this shyt ain't working instead of trying to hold onto how well it did 4 years ago