On Some Str8 Spittin: '90s Rappers vs. '00s Rappers

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Cam'ron is a 2000's rapper that Children of the Corn stuff was underground. Cam's legacy is in the 2000's that's the peak of his cultural impact on the game. He dropped one album in '98 everything else was 2000's.

When I think of Cam I think like '03 when Dipset was popping, the mixtapes, the freestyles, the pink minks and furs, the cars, the beefs and hits, the Oh Boy video.

The L.O.X. majority of they discography dropped in the 2000's. Jada, Styles, Sheek all dropped their solo projects and tapes in the 2000's.

It's not about when you got on its when you had your peak in cultural impact that defines what era you from.

you last sentence is not true ... ask the LOX and they would say they 90s rappers .. ask cam he would say he's a 90s rapper

 

[spliz]

you last sentence is not true ... ask the LOX and they would say they 90s rappers .. ask cam he would say he's a 90s rapper

Exactly. U go an ask the nikkas we talkin bout they gonna look at u funny for tryna erase a whole section of their career.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Exactly. U go an ask the nikkas we talkin bout they gonna look at u funny for tryna erase a whole section of their career.

Dude basically erasing part of their lifes..

Its like if he only knows Roger Clemens or Arod from the Yankees .. or only know Barry Bonds from SF and hitting 75 Hr... theres a WHOLE lot of career he's wiping away...

 

[ISO]

Right. I don't get their logic. If it's all about when you hit your stride as a solo artist, does that mean dudes like Sean Price, MF Doom and even Ghostface are considered 00's rappers? Doesn't even sound right.

How would Ghostface be a 90's rapper his peak was in the 90's. 36 Chambers, Cuban Linx, Ironman, Supreme Clientele dropped right there in 2000. Then Ghost fell off commercially.

Under this logic Drake is a 2000's rapper. He released three mixtapes and an EP from 06-09, had hit records, was on Wayne tapes, had joints being played on BET in 2007, was in the Trey Songz videos and all that, had tracks with Little Brother, Phonte, Bun B, Jeezy.

The LOX and Cam were at their peaks and dropped most of their work in the 2000's not the 90's had their biggest impact on the culture in the 2000's. That's why I'd put them in the 2000's roster. I feel like y'all nikkas playing mental gymnastics.

Look at @Wacky D example with Iverson. Nobody is erasing part of their career or diminishing it. The 2000's is where they made their bread and butter that's just what it is. Under this logic all the 2010's rappers the Wale's, Drake's, Cole's, Kendrick's are 2000's rappers.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

How would Ghostface be a 90's rapper his peak was in the 90's. 36 Chambers, Cuban Linx, Ironman, Supreme Clientele dropped right there in 2000. Then Ghost fell off commercially.

Under this logic Drake is a 2000's rapper. He released three mixtapes and an EP from 06-09, had hit records, was on Wayne tapes, had joints being played on BET in 2007, was in the Trey Songz videos and all that, had tracks with Little Brother, Phonte, Bun B, Jeezy.

The LOX and Cam were at their peaks and dropped most of their work in the 2000's not the 90's had their biggest impact on the culture in the 2000's. That's why I'd put them in the 2000's roster. I feel like y'all nikkas playing mental gymnastics.

I don't care about your peak ... you're a rookie when you're a rookie and that's that I look at .. not peak...
to me Jordan was drafted in 84.. he had his peak in the late 80/90s but he's not a 90s player .. he was drafted in 84

 

[Therht]

I don't wanna upset anyone, and im a early 80s baby right

But I clicked 00s

I reeled off my all time GOAT most influential albums from both the 90s and 00s and came up with 9 for each, 18 in total

I ranked each 9 on a lyrical or not rating, with the 90s coming in on 6.5 and the 00s coming in at 4

But

Regardless of the fact, I feel like there was way too much to choose from in the 00s when it came to lyrics, even if you didn't fully invest in THAT artist the same way you might Big or Pac

The 00s you had the New York mixtape era, battle rap era, punchline rap, swag rap, the way them Philly cats was rockin, DVD freestyle era, the south comin through with lyrics, mixtape Weezy, coke rap, all these sub genres of lyricism to explore

 

[tuckgod]

00's emcees were technically better

But that's only because they were able to piggyback off the work laid down by 90's emcees

You've reached full cac mindedness when you lose the ability to naturally see the interconnectedness between things, and constantly look to pick apart and dissect shyt

 

[kingofnyc]

nikka this thread ain't about impact. Them nikkas is 90s rappers. Cam was running around with Big L. Ma$e. Wrote a hit record for Lil Kim and Lil Cease. Had music on soundtracks. Had a bunch of features. Dropped his debut. ALL of that in the 90s. It don't matter what u 'think"of when u hear Cam. When Cam went to The Roc? Wanna know what the sentiment was? Cam was BACK. Meaning he was there before. He came BACK with a new rap style. Look and swag. He's a 90s rapper. Period. The Lox are featured on bunch of classic tracks. Hit records. And have a fukkin platinum album in the 90s. U nikkas can't be serious wit this shyt. D Block was hot in the 00s. The LOX was hot in the 90s. Don't matter when their solo material dropped. They came out as a group nikka. Lol

i just dont understand these new nikkaz
if you go by @ISO logic
one can REALLY argue that nas & jay are 2000's rappers

*both of their biggest impacts came at the very early 00's when they beef'd*



thecoli logic

 

[ISO]

i just dont understand these new nikkaz
if you go by @ISO logic
one can REALLY argue that nas & jay are 2000's rappers

*both of their biggest impacts came at the very early 00's when they beef'd*



thecoli logic

So all the 2010's heavy weight rappers are 2000's rappers then...

Drake, Wale, Cole, Kendrick, Big Sean etc.

How can you make that claim about Nas and Jay? They were stars in the 90's they dropped their most critically acclaimed albums and highest selling albums in the 90's.

I don't care about your peak ... you're a rookie when you're a rookie and that's that I look at .. not peak...
to me Jordan was drafted in 84.. he had his peak in the late 80/90s but he's not a 90s player .. he was drafted in 84

So Jordan is an 80's player? The 90's is his era the 80's were Bird and Magic's era. Did Jordan play in the 80's, did he dominate? Yes. But Jordan as we know him was made in the 90's. Jordan's most iconic moments came in the 90's. Jordan is the figure for 90's sports and pop culture.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

So all the 2010's heavy weight rappers are 2000's rappers then...

Drake, Wale, Cole, Kendrick, Big Sean etc.

How can you make that claim about Nas and Jay? They were stars in the 90's they dropped their most critically acclaimed albums and highest selling albums in the 90's.

So Jordan is an 80's player? The 90's is his era the 80's were Bird and Magic's era. Did Jordan play in the 80's, did he dominate? Yes. But Jordan as we know him was made in the 90's. Jordan's most iconic moments came in the 90's. Jordan is the figure for 90's sports and pop culture.

to me like I said.. Jordan was late 80s... he only couldn't shine because Bird and Magic dominated the early 80s.. Yes jordans era was the 90s .. but he didn't debut in the 90s.. and that's how I think..
and since Shaq didn't win till Jordan left and 00 is he a 00s player.. he won in 00 but his impact was really in the 90s breaking backboards and etc..

 

[H.S.]

How would Ghostface be a 90's rapper his peak was in the 90's. 36 Chambers, Cuban Linx, Ironman, Supreme Clientele dropped right there in 2000. Then Ghost fell off commercially.

Under this logic Drake is a 2000's rapper. He released three mixtapes and an EP from 06-09, had hit records, was on Wayne tapes, had joints being played on BET in 2007, was in the Trey Songz videos and all that, had tracks with Little Brother, Phonte, Bun B, Jeezy.

The LOX and Cam were at their peaks and dropped most of their work in the 2000's not the 90's had their biggest impact on the culture in the 2000's. That's why I'd put them in the 2000's roster. I feel like y'all nikkas playing mental gymnastics.

Look at @Wacky D example with Iverson. Nobody is erasing part of their career or diminishing it. The 2000's is where they made their bread and butter that's just what it is. Under this logic all the 2010's rappers the Wale's, Drake's, Cole's, Kendrick's are 2000's rappers.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Ghostface got the most shine of his career in the early-2000s, when he was popping up on more features than he ever had before, flooding the NY mixtape circuit with unreleased shyt, and dropping his most critically acclaimed work. Yes, his work with the group was impactful but as a SOLO artist he hit his stride in the early 2000s. Ghost's place in the game back then was similar to Ross circa 2010. You can't really quantity the impact it with sales alone. But the point is that claiming Cam and the Lox as 2000s rappers is no more ridiculous than claiming Ghost as one.

And who cares about 2010s rappers? They don't even have an identity to bother classifying like that.

 

[spliz]

So Jordan is an 80's player? The 90's is his era the 80's were Bird and Magic's era. Did Jordan play in the 80's, did he dominate? Yes. But Jordan as we know him was made in the 90's. Jordan's most iconic moments came in the 90's. Jordan is the figure for 90's sports and pop culture.

yes nikka. He is. Who the fukk says he aint? nikka was drafted in 84.

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

Is Nipsey considered a 00's rapper or 10's rapper?

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

yes nikka. He is. Who the fukk says he aint? nikka was drafted in 84.

he was responding to me but he misunderstood my statement...
I said Jordan was drafted in 84 .... that will never change .. he was a 80s drafted player.. yes his shine was 90s but he was drafted in the 80s... I cant wipe out the 84 draft and 85-90 just so I can proclaim him the GOAT in the 90s..
I gotta include him losing to bird and magic...

 

[spliz]

he was responding to me but he misunderstood my statement...
I said Jordan was drafted in 84 .... that will never change .. he was a 80s drafted player.. yes his shine was 90s but he was drafted in the 80s... I cant wipe out the 84 draft and 85-90 just so I can proclaim him the GOAT in the 90s..
I gotta include him losing to bird and magic...

Exactly. Lol