Older black men dropped the ball, they're a damn disgrace

[12345A]

also, lets not forget the older black men who actually worked hard to become wealthy, only to turn around and abandon their women and communities and leave their wealth to outsiders.

Lol... Wait, that's not funny.

 

[miranda]

also, lets not forget the older black men who actually worked hard to become wealthy, only to turn around and abandon their women and communities and leave their wealth to outsiders.

or not even that. they married black women, but raised their children in all white communities, subconsciously reinforcing that white is better, and then the children marry out. look at bob johnson's daughter

 

[Kenny West]

Heavy topic....I lost it at the Dem Franchise Boys video, can't lie.

But yeah I see this come to think about it. Growing up a bunch of my uncles were living under my grandma roof, some couldn't hold on to a job for shyt, some hooked on drugs, most with no vision and not focused on building nothing not even for themselves. Not even just them, some cousins were like that too, under the same dynamic. This thread kinda helped give me a view of it full circle (thanks @Lux ) I dunno if I'm mad at them for it. After all there are quality males in my fam too but it's not like they were really building something that wasn't just for themselves or their own kids. Community building is kinda lost these days in general.

We gotta get stronger. for our own sake

 

[Dzali OG]

To get a good picture...

My father is 58. Didn't graduate HS, and when he was around his friends they bragged about the b.s. they did around '70-'74 when they should have been finishing school. Instead they were skipping, drinking, smoking, and stealing.

My father graduated to robbery around the time him and moms made me.

Mom's parents were both alcoholics. Both grandparents so addicted to beer that my mother and her 5 siblings were taken and placed in foster care. That's when she met pops and they got cut up, made me. Pops 18, mom's 16.

Shortly after I'm born pops breaks in one of the few black doctors home to rob him. In the process he kills him and is sentenced to death row. There you have a 16 year old mother in foster care herself, so of course I'm taken and placed in foster care.

I say this to try and paint even a vague picture of what things were like in the 70's.

I believe the ball began being dropped with my grandparents generation. Them b*stards were losing everything to fukkIN BEER!!!!! Addicted to drinking, would rather stand on a corner drinking than go work or build.

This was the generation I believe where they didn't impose the importance of education. I know mad peeps from that time who dropped out. No repucussion because the parents were drunk.

 

[Amphibious]

OP is a fakkit.

 

[TheSpook]

These threads are always WOAT

 

[Elle Driver]

I feel you, it's like the generation before that really fought to have an education and sat in classes and sat in the buses and drank from the fountains. They fought for an education and was putting us on game. My mother and father was one of them (they were activists actually, my father was in the Black Panther Party), but they had me when they was both like in their 40s and 50s. I was also born during the crack era in Harlem as well. But in saying that, it's our job to continue the work. We know about white supremacy, so let's continue the work. Raise black children to know what's really good, be active in our communities, support our communities and uplift our communities.

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

Its black womens fault not men.

Once you get deeper in it

ULL realize that

To much to write right now tho

 

[.༼-◕_◕-༽.]

I feel you, it's like the generation before that really fought to have an education and sat in classes and sat in the buses and drank from the fountains. They fought for an education and was putting us on game. My mother and father was one of them (they were activists actually, my father was in the Black Panther Party), but they had me when they was both like in their 40s and 50s. I was also born during the crack era in Harlem as well. But in saying that, it's our job to continue the work. We know about white supremacy, so let's continue the work. Raise black children to know what's really good, be active in our communities, support our communities and uplift our communities.

That's actually a very impressive statement. Your parents PLANNED to have you when they were in a better position in life. Now a lot of people assume a woman 30s+ having a child is crazy. Dr. Frances Cress Welsing talks about the importance of family planning for Black people. After marriage and establishing stability THEN having children not earlier than their thirties. It doesn't have to be that exact formula BUT it's important to get back to building a stable life and picking a partner to start ONE family with.

I had friends whose parents were OG Panthers and they really did pass along #BlackExcellence

 

[Elle Driver]

That's actually a very impressive statement. Your parents PLANNED to have you when they were in a better position in life. Now a lot of people assume a woman 30s+ having a child is crazy. Dr. Frances Cress Welsing talks about the importance of family planning for Black people. After marriage and establishing stability THEN having children not earlier than their thirties. It doesn't have to be that exact formula BUT it's important to get back to building a stable life and picking a partner to start ONE family with.

I had friends whose parents were OG Panthers and they really did pass along #BlackExcellence

My dad didn't plan his other kids tbh, some of them are generation X living check to check. I recently had to cut one of them off financially, he's like 20 years older than me. It's shameful. And I won't blame my father because kids can be knuckle heads that don't want to listen. I'm pretty sure my brothers knew of my father's legacy cause he was marching around the time they were born and raised. And then you had the influence of crack, segregated sub standard low income housing projects (teeming with lead), fewer access to jobs and the prominence of public assistance. Oddly enough, that's when they started building "free or low cost" abortion clinics in those same neighborhoods. Anyway, the difference between me and my brothers is that we had different moms. My mother was a feminist and too damn independent, so growing up she was never on any benefits she used to work two, three jobs, and we were living in the hood. Even when she left my father, she never put him on child support, she didn't ask him for shyt. He lived in the building right behind us, and she used to help him out financially whenever he needed it though. I honestly had no idea what TANF or SNAP was. I remember seeing government cheese and being so disgusted though.

 

[QuintessentialBM]

To get a good picture...

My father is 58. Didn't graduate HS, and when he was around his friends they bragged about the b.s. they did around '70-'74 when they should have been finishing school. Instead they were skipping, drinking, smoking, and stealing.

My father graduated to robbery around the time him and moms made me.

Mom's parents were both alcoholics. Both grandparents so addicted to beer that my mother and her 5 siblings were taken and placed in foster care. That's when she met pops and they got cut up, made me. Pops 18, mom's 16.

Shortly after I'm born pops breaks in one of the few black doctors home to rob him. In the process he kills him and is sentenced to death row. There you have a 16 year old mother in foster care herself, so of course I'm taken and placed in foster care.

I say this to try and paint even a vague picture of what things were like in the 70's.

I believe the ball began being dropped with my grandparents generation. Them b*stards were losing everything to fukkIN BEER!!!!! Addicted to drinking, would rather stand on a corner drinking than go work or build.

This was the generation I believe where they didn't impose the importance of education. I know mad peeps from that time who dropped out. No repucussion because the parents were drunk.

My father's story has many parallels, but in the end, he knew what time it was (he had help too. His mother and grandmother would have gotten in his shyt).

My father almost got caught up doing what the dummies did. Was with some friends who he was skipping school with that day while they were doing dirt... got arrested and had to be picked up. Luckily, he got out of that incident, but sitting in a cell with real criminals changed him (or at least slowed him down). His senior year, he had a D average GPA due to skipping with his friends to go get high everyday. After being locked up, he got his shyt together and graduated, then entered the Air Force. That didn't work out because he had gotten a serious injury which caused him to be medically discharged, but for the most part, he had his priorities straight since(He quit smoking weed after an I'm famous incident in college where he got so high, that he ate himself out of house and home one night. My mom cooked the whole refrigerator. Lol)

They conceived me in late February(either on my mom's birthday or the day after)and I was born 9 months, to the day, later. I was born in a hospital in SE Missouri, where my mom is from and where I lived at for the first 2 months of my life. My father brought us to Oklahoma in December of 82 (After that shotgun wedding, which is another story). My pops first job after college was a local grocery story that paid something like 4.00/hr. We live in a duplex on the north side of town right by the military base(artillery guns and military aircraft sounding off were common). My father kept that struggle job for 3 years, getting denied for food stamps because he made $5.00 too much, until our local Goodyear plant called him in for an interview. He got the interview because my great uncle was a famous local football player.

He landed that job in November of 85 and has been working out there ever since, raising me and my sister, and still married to my mother after 32 years (33 in December).

I laugh at this thread (and previous ones of its ilk)because I cannot relate to the generalization of what is perceived as the "common" broken black household of the crack era. I also laugh because people were calling out, specifically, black men born at the trail end of Generation X, leading into Gen Y(1980-82). We're the last generation of black men that know what a functional black family looks like.... and most of us are in our 30's, single and without any children, wondering what the hell has happened to black women and why are they so off the chain?

So.........

?

End rant.

 

[YouMadd?]

This is a very good topic because I feel the same way when I encounter an unproductive black male over 35. Just a waste.

Last night I was walking down the street in SF at 10pm and I see this black girl in her late 20s walking down the street pushing a stroller and I overheard a phone conversation with the bumb ass daddy.

Bum ass nikka on the phone: YOU AINT shyt

Women pushing stiller at 10pm: WELL IF I AINT SHT THEN BRING BACK MY CAR.

Bum ass nikka on the phone: hangs up

women continues pushing stroller down the street at 10pm...

I'm truly sick of this shyt. I'm fukking sick of it.

 

[AITheAnswerAI]

Africans dropped the ball by letting white people take us, take the natural resources, take control of the continent(mostly South Africa) and relegate the native Africans to 3rd class citizens (apartheid and shyt like that), letting them get away with introducing HIV, and Ebola(did you know the Ebola virus has a patent? And did you know America has the cure?) into African populations, letting the Chinese move in and establish a whole bunch of businesses that treat Africans like shyt while they take their money, and all the while never getting revenge for any of it and sitting there and taking it...but you notice they sometimes have contempt for black people right? Aint that a bytch? They're the ones that let us down, but wanna act high and mighty? Lmao

 

[kj614]

My father's story has many parallels, but in the end, he knew what time it was (he had help too. His mother and grandmother would have gotten in his shyt).

My father almost got caught up doing what the dummies did. Was with some friends who he was skipping school with that day while they were doing dirt... got arrested and had to be picked up. Luckily, he got out of that incident, but sitting in a cell with real criminals changed him (or at least slowed him down). His senior year, he had a D average GPA due to skipping with his friends to go get high everyday. After being locked up, he got his shyt together and graduated, then entered the Air Force. That didn't work out because he had gotten a serious injury which caused him to be medically discharged, but for the most part, he had his priorities straight since(He quit smoking weed after an I'm famous incident in college where he got so high, that he ate himself out of house and home one night. My mom cooked the whole refrigerator. Lol)

They conceived me in late February(either on my mom's birthday or the day after)and I was born 9 months, to the day, later. I was born in a hospital in SE Missouri, where my mom is from and where I lived at for the first 2 months of my life. My father brought us to Oklahoma in December of 82 (After that shotgun wedding, which is another story). My pops first job after college was a local grocery story that paid something like 4.00/hr. We live in a duplex on the north side of town right by the military base(artillery guns and military aircraft sounding off were common). My father kept that struggle job for 3 years, getting denied for food stamps because he made $5.00 too much, until our local Goodyear plant called him in for an interview. He got the interview because my great uncle was a famous local football player.

He landed that job in November of 85 and has been working out there ever since, raising me and my sister, and still married to my mother after 32 years (33 in December).

I laugh at this thread (and previous ones of its ilk)because I cannot relate to the generalization of what is perceived as the "common" broken black household of the crack era. I also laugh because people were calling out, specifically, black men born at the trail end of Generation X, leading into Gen Y(1980-82). We're the last generation of black men that know what a functional black family looks like.... and most of us are in our 30's, single and without any children, wondering what the hell has happened to black women and why are they so off the chain?

So.........

?

End rant.

RIght, you would be led to believe that the majority of black people are poor or having hard times. shyt is a lie. We all know a Aunt or Cousin who Don't want to get a fukking job but the VAST majority of at least my fam had structure and took care of themselves.I was born in 81

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

@Barnett114

You a bytch ?