Old Heads: why Kool G Rap couldn't at least go gold?

[Rozay Oro]

"He didn't go gold/plat" 30ish years ago is kinda meaningless. Hell, the whole certification thing is kinda meaningless. He could've shipped 500k, 1 mill, whatever....if your label doesn't pay for the audit then you don't get your plaque. It's as simple as that.

Fred.

Yep. Like how Death row stopped paying for Pac plaques once all eyez on me hit 9 million Everyone knows it's really diamond but you gotta pay for that shyt.

Never knew that. How much are plaques?

 

[hex]

Never knew that. How much are plaques?

$350 per cert last I checked. $450 if you aren't a member of the RIAA.

And you need to pay for individual certifications (in other words, you'd have to pay 5x if something went 5x plat....although there is a bulk discount).

If you don't pay, the audit never happens. Your album ships 2 mill in 1995....your label only pays for 1x cert....RIAA's database will say you went 1x plat, no matter what.

And let's say your label, for whatever reason, decides to pay for another audit in 2019....the RIAA database will say you went 2x plat in 2019. Meaning it will look like it took you 24 years to move an additional 1 million units. Because the certification date is when the audit is completed, not when it actually shipped that amount.

So, yeah. That's why I laugh when people try to gauge the popularity of rap albums based on the RIAA.com database.

Fred.

 

[Self_Born7]

he still the 2nd GOAT after Rakim Allah... i fukks with him

 

[ISO]

He was the best rapper from his era

 

[Aje]

This doesn't really answer OP's question, but I just felt like sharing: 4, 5, 6 is such a dope album to me. One that I still play.

 

[patscorpio]

Wasn’t Ross gonna sign him




This shyt was hard, made me check out some of g raps older stuff, he was a little ahead of my time.

i think ross is the only cat that still makes songs with the ny legends.its kinda funny how that is

 

[BO BARON]

Albums were very just aight & he never had records that were top 40 hits like krs, rakim & kane

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

He was about 5 to 7 years before his time.

Drug dealing as a cultural influencer doesn't begin to take hold until 1992, towards the latter stage
of the crack decade and six years after his debut.

G Rap was on the second tier of the Juice Crew in the mid to late 1980s, under Big Daddy Kane, Roxanne Shante, Biz Markie and MC Shan. He was only 18 when Its A Demo dropped.

Most of his joints were only heard on late night mix shows in NYC -- Mr. Magic, Red Alert, Chuck Chillout, Special K and Teddy Ted, Hank Love and DNA, WBAU, WHBI.

He was also heavy on mix cassettes, but not that much club play or female interest.

The Symphony video helped his stock rise. It played non-stop on Video Music Box.

 

[Rozay Oro]

$350 per cert last I checked. $450 if you aren't a member of the RIAA.

And you need to pay for individual certifications (in other words, you'd have to pay 5x if something went 5x plat....although there is a bulk discount).

If you don't pay, the audit never happens. Your album ships 2 mill in 1995....your label only pays for 1x cert....RIAA's database will say you went 1x plat, no matter what.

And let's say your label, for whatever reason, decides to pay for another audit in 2019....the RIAA database will say you went 2x plat in 2019. Meaning it will look like it took you 24 years to move an additional 1 million units. Because the certification date is when the audit is completed, not when it actually shipped that amount.

So, yeah. That's why I laugh when people try to gauge the popularity of rap albums based on the RIAA.com database.

Fred.

That's fukking crazy and foul as shyt. That needs to be fixed.

 

[Rozay Oro]

jesus christ fast life. this is a top 5 nas feature right here, i mean every bar is sick. i used to rewind my bank roll got the cops comin in plain clothes over and over again

you're right this should have been way bigger for g rap, puzzling

They both spazzed, def my favorite g rap song

 

[King Sun]

what??
how??

they weren't big sellers either, and most of their fans are also fans of kool g rap and acknowledge his influence over them.

only difference is the wutang tour money & branding.

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yes the LOX do have one.

WE ARE THE STREETS.





kane debut is definitely better than the bolded.

Rae and ghost got a couple of gold plaques

 

[jackson35]

All the other greats from the 80's and early 90's all got gold or platinum plaque including many of G Raps Juice Crew buddies. I know he doesn't make mainstream type joints but Rakim did?

I wonder what was the issue

going gold is not hip hop. that's some wall street bullshyt that don't really benefit hip hop

 

[Rozay Oro]

Still bump this song regularly....top 50 rap song imo....was too young to really understand what he was doin initially...I was a Nas stan heavy back in the gap..this song put me on to him....now that I'm older I can hear the influence in not only Nas but others such as Big Pun as well...G just a monster on the mic...he's a rappers rapper...cadence, aggressiveness, wit...life of a pioneer ain't easy...alot of times u don't get the rewards but u pave the way for others like u....if there's no G rap there is no If I ruled the world by Nas...bruh an unsung King in my book....

So g rap the velvet underground or Larry heard of rap

 

[hex]

That's fukking crazy and foul as shyt. That needs to be fixed.

I doubt it'll ever be fixed, it's their system. It's how the RIAA has operated more or less since day 1.

Fred.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Bumps in the whip daily...



I fukks with that Roots of Evil album...

G always been that one dude in the game you never gave a fukk about the beat or production...

Bruh would consistently spit fire...