old heads... what was so special about Chris Webber?

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Ive never seen anything like that when he went around that doplic big mans body with the ball


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Breh, him and Jason Williams would turn an NBA game into and And1 session at times, sh*t was ridiculous. One of the most entertaining teams I've ever seen:


 

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:stopitslime: What are you talking about? Because I said his game is not reminiscent of or comparable to Durant or Deron, that's saying he's Kevin Willis status???:wtf:

I didn't say he had comparable game, I said mix of talents, like if you combined KD, Deron Williams, and Kevin Love, you'd have CWebb.
Nah

At he time, Barkley and Malone were the gold standard for PFs in the NBA.

Webber came in and had :
  • Barkley's skill set with even better handles
  • Malone's physicality with even better passing skills
  • Shawn Kemp's athleticism but with better overall game
  • + Shot blocking ability which neither Barkley or Malone were great at

Basically you could say Webber was a poor man's Tim Duncan. Except the man wouldn't be that poor. If you were to compare him to today's PFs I'd say a more physical LaMarcus Aldridge with PG like handles.
 

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To be real with you, I didn't respect his game until he went to the Kings.Saw him with the Warriors, but I wasn't blown away by what I saw.

Seems like his career went into limbo after that.Gone & forgotten, rotting away on the Bullets.He put up numbers, but nobody really gave a shyt about the mediocre Bullets.I thought he was one of those "put up good stats on a bad team" cats.Similar to how I felt about Jerry Stackhouse back then.

When he got to Sac, though:whoo:.He actually became one of my favorite players to watch back in the early 2000's.In fact, going back in the last 13-14 years, I'd have a hard time ranking any PF not named Duncan above him.He could do everything.Post up, pass(him and Divac might be the GOAT big man passing tandem), mid range J, boards, and quite possibly the best hands I've ever seen in all my years of watching basketball.
 

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Nah

At he time, Barkley and Malone were the gold standard for PFs in the NBA.

Webber came in and had :
  • Barkley's skill set with even better handles
  • Malone's physicality with even better passing skills
  • Shawn Kemp's athleticism but with better overall game
  • + Shot blocking ability which neither Barkley or Malone were great at

Basically you could say Webber was a poor man's Tim Duncan. Except the man wouldn't be that poor. If you were to compare him to today's PFs I'd say a more physical LaMarcus Aldridge with PG like handles.

I respect all Zoes, with that said don't put words in my mouth breh.


Webber used to give Duncan that work. It's unfair to compare Chris Webber's skill set to another PF, he was Apocalypse, the PFs were X-men.



@3:10, he takes JO off the dribble from the top of the key

@3:38, he leads the fast break and finishes it off with a behind the back pass

@3:55, he slips in a pass between 3 defenders :wow:

@3:58, he hit barkley with a 2 guard spin move :heh:

@4:36, one step drive to the basket and finish from the 3 point line

I could go on and on, but comparing him to other PFs is diminishing his talent. He could take you off the post, he had the elbow jumper, he had the hook, he could dunk over you, but what made him amazing is at times how he played like a little man in a big mans body. That's why I used KD, because he's damn near a 7' 2 guard
 

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I respect all Zoes, with that said don't put words in my mouth breh.


Webber used to give Duncan that work. It's unfair to compare Chris Webber's skill set to another PF, he was Apocalypse, the PFs were X-men.



@3:10, he takes JO off the dribble from the top of the key

@3:38, he leads the fast break and finishes it off with a behind the back pass

@3:55, he slips in a pass between 3 defenders :wow:

@3:58, he hit barkley with a 2 guard spin move :heh:

@4:36, one step drive to the basket and finish from the 3 point line

I could go on and on, but comparing him to other PFs is diminishing his talent. He could take you off the post, he had the elbow jumper, he had the hook, he could dunk over you, but what made him amazing is at times how he played like a little man in a big mans body. That's why I used KD, because he's damn near a 7' 2 guard

Duncan isnt very good against mobile bigs. He could do a decent job against guys like Shaq and Mourning (tho Robinson guarded them for the most part) but if you're the type of big that can put the ball on the floor you can do well against Duncan
 
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Man, someone try to find the clip of him playing in Michigan when he dunks of some white dude who collapses to the floor, then C-Webb taunts him by collapsing on top of him while he still on the ground. I could never find it.
 

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Duncan isnt very good against mobile bigs. He could do a decent job against guys like Shaq and Mourning (tho Robinson guarded them for the most part) but if you're the type of big that can put the ball on the floor you can do well against Duncan

Yep, part of the reason Amare used to have so much success against him.
 

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I always liked him because he and KG seemed to get the same criticism and I didn't think it was justified. I thought those two were very similar with Webber being the better offensive player and KG being the better defensive player. They always impacted games when they were in their prime. True big men you could give the ball too almost anywhere on the court and have something good happen.

Injuries, Popp/Duncan and the Lakers kept the west under wraps but Webber was as good as anyone for stretches during games and seasons. I think as we go on, the no title thing won't be used to determine players historical standing but he was so good I don't see people using that to slight him. Kevin Garnett is my all-time favorite player but if he hadn't won a title, I think he might be the last PF a franchise would take if you put Webber/Duncan/Garnett and Dirk in a pool. Years ago you couldn't tell me KG wasn't one of the all-time greats, but as time goes by, he's just a top 5 PF of his era :to:
 

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I saw him play when I was young but I never understood the hype.

why was he the #1 recruit going into college? why'd they make such a big deal about when he was drafted?

was it the mid range game? was it the versatility in hairstyles?

seriously tho, what was it. He seemed like a good all around player but never overly GREAT in anything.

help me out.​
I'm so angry right now :birdman:
If I seen you in a dark alley I would CUT you :ufdup:
Do you remember the Shaq and Kobe combo that Phil Jackson had at his disposal?
Lakers vs Kings is probably the best playoff series I ever seen :manny:
It was that super team vs Chris Webber and "other players"
Even the good role players, today, we all look back and go "They were just role players"

Jason Williams was good, but at times a liability. Vladi Divac.. Hedu Turkuloosza.. Mike Bibby
Who else they have... Corliss Williamson? Trust me, Webber if I could compare a player from today to him?
Kevin Love who takes less threes and is much better in the post.
In the post, he was as efficient as Tim Duncan in his prime. Used the glass alot too
In DC we had a mural for the nikka while he was here :whew:
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And on defense, he was a BEAST sending nikkaz shots into the stands routinely
 
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