Old heads how mad were u when Smif-N-Wessun pulled this stunt.....

[WIA20XX]

How is this a west coast remix? Knowledge Me is as New York as it gets

This is the original version of the song



And on that album, he was straight clowning the West Coast.

For example, This whole Murder, Murder, Murder and Kill Kill Kill



It's Ace making fun of the 1993 West Coast... (More likely 91 and 92 NWA, given how long it took to put stuff out back then)

You can listen to the whole thing if you want (I'm not doing that ever again)



And that's how Jeep Azz Niguh got changed to Born to Roll.

The fact that it became a hit, the biggest hit of his career, when he was trying to hate? HILARIOUS.

The way he talks about it now, it was all part of the plan, and he had love for the West Coast.



In 1993 we knew what time it was.

Main Source's - Stop Faking the Funk
Jeru's - Come Clean
All that "Keep It Real" stuff that was popular at the time.

Was the East coast responding to East Coast rappers that switched up, West Coast Gangstas, (and hip hop turning pop), and eventually G-Funk.

But the boom bap/jazz breaks and clever lyrics era ENDED.

That's how you end up with those bad remixes, ill conceived collabs, and money grabs. Like Skew it on the Bar B by 'Kast featuring Raekwon.

East Coast domination ended. You can hear it most with Biggie. His "street stuff" was for NYC. But his radio stuff was for everyone.

Now NY had to compete with ATL, New Orleans, Miami, Chicago, Los Angeles... Still had some good music and hits, but ASAP Rocky comes out talking about growing up on UGK

A$AP Rocky was born Rakim Meyers, his parents naming him after the legendary MC: “They jinxed me in a good way.” But while the original Rakim is a towering totem of classic New York hip-hop, Rocky’s style defies geography. Growing up, he listened to hip-hop from New York (Rakim, DMX), California (Snoop Dogg, DJ Quik), the South (UGK, Three 6 Mafia) and the Midwest (Bone Thugs-N-Harmony). His music reflects that mongrel pedigree.

50 Cent was one of the early adopters, but he was prolly one of the last legit super stars from NY.

It is what it is.

 

[Middle Finga U]

Truth.

You always knew they were gonna drop a remix for their singles back then. All the Black Moon remixes were dope! They had some classic b-sides too. The b-side I always wished Smif N Wessun had on Dah Shinin' was this joint:

From what I remember, this not being on Dah Shinin was definitely a sample clearance issue.

 

[NormanConnors]

Yes . Popped the plastic of the cassette and placed in the Walkman, got to the track and was .

Thankfully the album still had that classic feeling and the album version was still dope. Overall I didn't care at the end of the day. Ended up making my own version with the video version added later on in life.

 

[NormanConnors]

Changing their name wasn't the issue with that Cocoa Bz album. That was one of the most dissapointing hyped up Hip Hop albums of all time. And to add insult to injury was the delays and push backs till it finally dropped. That album, Heltah Skeltahs Magnum Force, Canibus' debut, Pras' debut and John Fortes debut all gave us stinkers in 1998.

Nah, the bold print had some certified heat on it


I'd agree if you switch those out with the first BCC group album. Now that one was disappointing

 

[Neuromancer]

thought this was gonna be about changing their name

Me too

 

[Mowgli]

Wouldn't be the last time they did something like that,



Damn someone posted this already.

 

[Middle Finga U]

Yes . Popped the plastic of the cassette and placed in the Walkman, got to the track and was .

Thankfully the album still had that classic feeling and the album version was still dope. Overall I didn't care at the end of the day. Ended up making my own version with the video version added later on in life.

Same here. My version today has the Wreckonize remix, Still don't nothing move but the money, and the Sound Bwoy remix.

 

[DANJ!]

Shiit that was another 1......
how do they play it on the radio and get air time for the video tho; but you can't put it in an album?

You can't put it on the album if it doesn't exist yet

A lot of these remixes we know came way after the album... so that's why they're not on there... usually by the time someone got to their third single or so, the album had already been out for well over 6 months. so that's why they'd do a remix just to drop something new. They weren't re-issuing albums with the new remixes added on back then...

The real shytty thing about back then is when the FIRST single would be the remix and you didnt know til you bought the album, i.e. "Punks Jump Up" by Brand Nubian

 

[Middle Finga U]

Nah, the bold print had some certified heat on it


I'd agree if you switch those out with the first BCC group album. Now that one was disappointing

I actually enjoy this album. The only skip worthy song is the joint with The Outlawz

 

[Awesome Wells]

You can't put it on the album if it doesn't exist yet

A lot of these remixes we know came way after the album... so that's why they're not on there... usually by the time someone got to their third single or so, the album had already been out for well over 6 months. so that's why they'd do a remix just to drop something new. They weren't re-issuing albums with the new remixes added on back then...

The real shytty thing about back then is when the FIRST single would be the remix and you didnt know til you bought the album, i.e. "Punks Jump Up" by Brand Nubian

All true.

And Brand Nubian fooled everyone back then! Diamond did like 7 versions of that track for them, and we all were hunting for the video version. But the other remix that he rhymed on with them was fire too!

 

[Mr. Negative]

It used to be crazy because nikkas would buy albums thinking the video version of the song was on the album and get pissed. Like Crossroads lol.

I was legit mad the OG Not a Player wasn't on Capital Punishment

 

[NormanConnors]

I actually enjoy this album. The only skip worthy song is the joint with The Outlawz

I appreciate it more now, just wish the rest of the album matched the few bangers that were in there.

 

[nieman]

Changing their name wasn't the issue with that Cocoa Bz album. That was one of the most dissapointing hyped up Hip Hop albums of all time. And to add insult to injury was the delays and push backs till it finally dropped. That album, Heltah Skeltahs Magnum Force, Canibus' debut, Pras' debut and John Fortes debut all gave us stinkers in 1998.

I like Magnum Force. I actually still listen to it all of the time.

You also can't forget about Bucktown USA remix with MOP

 

[Awesome Wells]

Changing their name wasn't the issue with that Cocoa Bz album. That was one of the most dissapointing hyped up Hip Hop albums of all time. And to add insult to injury was the delays and push backs till it finally dropped. That album, Heltah Skeltahs Magnum Force, Canibus' debut, Pras' debut and John Fortes debut all gave us stinkers in 1998.

After OGC's album, BCC just fell all the way off!

Beefing with Beatminerz was really what killed the quality for all of the artists on Duck Down. Once the production went, that was it for them.

 

[Digital Omen]

bad remixes, ill conceived collabs, and money grabs. Like Skew it on the Bar B by 'Kast featuring Raekwon.

You serious? I can think of 10 other examples and Skew It will never be among them. Rae fit perfectly on that track.

the camel on the Ha remix
the camel on the Punjabi mc one hit wonder track
the camel's Big Pimpin- Chad went to his grave hating it and never wanting to do it, got sued silly over the sample
R&B chickenheads on O.C. and Mic Geronimo trying and failing to go commercial singles