Old head , how big was MC hammer in this prime ?

[ArKane24]

facts

That nikka was all over The Box, Bruh. What Box did you watch? That shyt played all corners of rap/hip-hop because it was viewer picked. I remember changing the channel sometimes because shyt like Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch would come on.

 

[L. Deezy]

all his singles

lmaooo... this is stupid breh. sorry

Look at this clip from the Godfather of Soul... The man who made Im black and Im proud.

Is he POP??

 

[kingofnyc]

If big stage shows is pop, then Tribe just stupid. Nothing bout Hammer music was POP. NOTHING

lmaooo... this is stupid breh. sorry

Look at this clip from the Godfather of Soul... The man who made Im black and Im proud.

Is he POP??

Listen, i dunno know where your from or your age/era you grew up in
BUT
where im from - hammer was NOT hip hop he was a pop star (and good for him)





by the amount of peeps capping for him only makes me believe yall were lil nikkaz back then (cause like 95% of the industry never considered hammer & vanilla ice as hip hop of any sort ... as matter of fact we put them into that pop/R&B/dance movement like CC & the music factory ; Milli Vanilli etc... category)

i cant even believe im having this convo

 

[FeloniousMonk]

Wait.

Nicca's calling Hammer a POP star because he blew up bigger than ALL his peers at the time?

Dont understand the meaning of a crossover act, brehs.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

i aint gots nothing against Hammer
he did what he did & was very sucessful at it
((BUT it just wasnt what we call hip hop))

im not understanding the hammer puff connection
when Hammer was rocking parachute pants with pennie lofters
Puff was turning R&B into HipHop / Soul - with putting Tims & baggy jeans on a quartet R&B group from NC and put nergo leage baseball jerseys & hats with spandex with knee pads on a sultry singer from Yonkers

No. I just have to remind you about the facts sometimes.

AND

Okay, why wouldnt we call it Hip Hop?

You dont have to understand it.

When Hammer was getting 30 million dollar advances, Puff was cleaning up Andre Harells office's at Uptown.

 

[L. Deezy]

Listen, i dunno know where your from or your age/era you grew up in
BUT
where im from - hammer was NOT hip hop he was a pop star (and good for him)





by the amount of peeps capping for him only makes me believe yall were lil nikkaz back then (cause like 95% of the industry never considered hammer & vanilla ice as hip hop of any sort ... as matter of fact we put them into that pop/R&B/dance movement like CC & the music factory ; Milli Vanilli etc... category)

i cant even believe im having this convo

dawg, I never bought a Hammer record in my life.. but y'all just dont know what POP is. Y'all just dismiss anything thats not to your liking by adding the tags. If this was about Young MC or Tone Loc, I could probably understand.

Hammers peers hated that he won. point blank. all that he aint hip hop, he was a sellout wasnt factual.

Hammer never made a collab with anybody. Didnt need a pop star on the hook for a big record. But y'all say he pop?

Jay Z did a whole EP with Linkin Park. Songs with Chris Martin. Nobody calls him one in the hip hop world. Y'all choose who to put tags on and be just wrong

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

I really wanna find that clip of Outkast talking about Hammer on some VH1 show. Can't find that shyt anywhere

"nikkas talking shyt bout Hammer? Run up on him, Hammer will beat your monkey ass"

 

[kingofnyc]

No. I just have to remind you about the facts sometimes.

what facts u talking bout

AND
Okay, why wouldnt we call it Hip Hop?

cause it wasn't !!!
it was more pop/dance
he was more connected to C&C music factory than ATCQ

You dont have to understand it.

When Hammer was getting 30 million dollar advances, Puff was cleaning up Andre Harells office's at Uptown.

and what dose this even suppose to mean
WHEN...... currently.....

puff is nearly a billionaire & hammer is nearly a millionaire

 

[kingofnyc]

dawg, I never bought a Hammer record in my life.. but y'all just dont know what POP is. Y'all just dismiss anything thats not to your liking by adding the tags. If this was about Young MC or Tone Loc, I could probably understand.

Hammers peers hated that he won. point blank. all that he aint hip hop, he was a sellout wasnt factual.

Hammer never made a collab with anybody. Didnt need a pop star on the hook for a big record. But y'all say he pop?

Jay Z did a whole EP with Linkin Park. Songs with Chris Martin. Nobody calls him one in the hip hop world. Y'all choose who to put tags on and be just wrong

when u say (( yall ))
are u referring to new york & east coast nikkaz ???

cause if thats the case... i can show u a bunch of west coast nikkaz that shytted on hammer pop appeal

 

[Xerces]

So big he had an 8 min mini movie, before 2 legit 2 quit even started playing, and i watched it all

 

[L. Deezy]

when u say (( yall ))
are u referring to new york & east coast nikkaz ???

cause if thats the case... i can show u a bunch of west coast nikkaz that shytted on hammer pop appeal

Man you gonna keep ignoring the points? Every rapper has haters.. that dont even mean shyt breh..

 

[kingofnyc]

Man you gonna keep ignoring the points? Every rapper has haters.. that dont even mean shyt breh..

ignoring what point ???

i done prove to you that he was considered a pop artist back then


and i find it very interesting u chose to not address your age/location
i ONLY understand nikkaz from da bay/oak area giving him a pass due to his contribution to his hood
BUT beside dem nikkaz - hammer, was a complete joke, wack pop artist to da rest of da world

 

[The Mad Titan]

Hammer was drake before drake was around.


Without the singing.

He was a rapper that got super big and turned pop culture, people hated on him because he was popular and tried to keep a positive spin on everything, the ladies loved him and he would make simp tracks from time to time.



But Hammer was about the action from what I heard.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

what facts u talking bout




cause it wasn't !!!
it was more pop/dance
he was more connected to C&C music factory than ATCQ





and what dose this even suppose to mean
WHEN...... currently.....

puff is nearly a billionaire & hammer is nearly a millionaire

The fact that Hammer was poppin majorly while Puff was at Howard, and really been out since 86' independently, while puff was still in High School if you want to get technical.

The fact Hammer was already a millionaire while Puffy was a intern at Uptown Records.

"Cuz it wasnt", does not compute.

Why was it more pop/dance because of the tempo?

Or because Hammer was a dancer?



House music is dance music, Hammer just happen to make music you can dance to. Thats the only correlation, breh.



Hip Hop is more than boom bap beats and clever rhymes my dude.

 

[SAJ!!]

HIP HOP to exactly who ???

dude was a simple pop star

i dunno know where yall nikkaz are from but he aint never get played on Hot97 nor when WBLS or KISS did there hip-hop shows
he never got played on Video Music Box

and when i think about it on a National level
his videos never was played on YO MTV Raps or Rap City
he was never on the cover if The Source Mag & anytime he was mention it was a them shytting on him

Listen, the only people that considered him hiphop was kids & old people that knew no better

him & Vanilla Ice was looked at as jokes and got zero respect from their peers


posters are exposing themselves calling this fukkery hip hop

NO LIES TOLD!!!!!!!!!!