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You would have to actually know the definition of a patriarchy to talk about it. A patriarchy is where men are the primary and sole authority in issues of politics, economy, property/household, etc. This was NOT the case in pre-colonial Africa. There are as many female rulers as male historically, probably many more we don't even know about because of the colonization.



Look up the definition of the world egalitarian and realize why this part of your rant is irrelevant.



As were matriarchal customs, like matrilineally (in which public office and economics were completely derived from). And please stop making up nonsense to support your wish to follow in your white daddy's footsteps. African men did not own African women by any stretch of the imagination in pre-colonial Africa. They were independent individuals. Unmarried women in Africa were able to collect wealth and status just as the men were. They were not restricted to any such roles in order to survive and were in fact held in high esteem. The customs you are talking about by and large came AFTER European colonization.



Wasn't certain words, it was all of them. None of them were gendered. Not the possessive, not the pronouns, none.
You really need to slow down and do some more research. You've obviously read(or somebody speak) some shyt, but you're still pretty ignorant. Patriarchy was not something that Africans got from the Europeans. Stop it.
 

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You really need to slow down and do some more research. You've obviously read(or somebody speak) some shyt, but you're still pretty ignorant. Patriarchy was not something that Africans got from the Europeans. Stop it.

The irony of calling me ignorant when the position you are attempting to defend contrasts all remaining facts and history on the subject

Please do your own research, because its you are on the ignorant side of this debate, not me.
 

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The irony of calling me ignorant when the position you are attempting to defend contrasts all remaining facts and history on the subject

Please do your own research, because its you are on the ignorant side of this debate, not me.
:heh: You dont even know my position. You're trying too hard. I see where you're coming from a mile away, and I'm telling you to slow down. The 1st thing that I'd point out to you is that Africa is a continent. Not a city, state, or country. You're perpetuating a myth that makes you feel better. Your position is insulting to blacks and you're too insecure and ignorant to realize it. That's the thing about "black feminists", they have so much hatred for the black man that they will side with the white man just out of spite. "You learned patriarchy from your white daddy":russ:
You're either an ugly single chic, a lesbian or you fukk with white men, guaranteed. While I will acknowledge that there's convincing evidence to suggest that ancient Kemet/Egypt was a non patriarchal society(in the sense of how that term is described today), the idea that it was matriarchal or that all of Africa was non "patriarchal" is nothing but a myth. What's for certain, is that patriarchy or male dominated societies existed in Africa pre colonialism. Come on now, you've obviously done some knowledge, don't stop. There's plenty of evidence of patriarchy or male dominated societies existing in Africa pre-colonialism. Are you aware that religion existed in Africa before the white man came? Monotheism and socalled patriarchy go hand in hand. Stop choking on the white man's dikk just to spite your brothers.
 

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:heh: You dont even know my position. You're trying too hard. I see where you're coming from a mile away, and I'm telling you to slow down. The 1st thing that I'd point out to you is that Africa is a continent. Not a city, state, or country. You're perpetuating a myth that makes you feel better. Your position is insulting to blacks and you're too insecure and ignorant to realize it. That's the thing about "black feminists", they have so much hatred for the black man that they will side with the white man just out of spite. "You learned patriarchy from your white daddy":russ:
You're either an ugly single chic, a lesbian or you fukk with white men, guaranteed. While I will acknowledge that there's convincing evidence to suggest that ancient Kemet/Egypt was a non patriarchal society(in the sense of how that term is described today), the idea that it was matriarchal or that all of Africa was non "patriarchal" is nothing but a myth. What's for certain, is that patriarchy or male dominated societies existed in Africa pre colonialism. Come on now, you've obviously done some knowledge, don't stop. There's plenty of evidence of patriarchy or male dominated societies existing in Africa pre-colonialism. Are you aware that religion existed in Africa before the white man came? Monotheism and socalled patriarchy go hand in hand. Stop choking on the white man's dikk just to spite your brothers.

*yawn*

Go ahead and do some research on the drastic differences that colonization caused to existing African "gender roles" and women's position in society. Go ahead and do your research on the status of women in pre-colonial Africa and the positions they held. The only person attempting to feel better here is you and your angry, sheep-like brethren. You don't think there's any other way to live successfully and in harmony with your woman unless you dominate her (even though African peoples did it for CENTURIES) like the white man does and you fools still have the gall to open your mouths to say anything about Black feminism like your adaptation of white chauvinism didn't force Black women's hand.
Keep it real: You want so badly to take the white man's place and have power over the black woman the way he had over white women for centuries and are distraught at the knowledge that this so-called dynamic of men being superior to and having ownership over women didn't exist in YOUR PEOPLE until he called you a savage for it not. I'm actually :heh: at the idea that you think the introduction of patriarchy is actually a good thing that your ignorant behind is acting like I'm "on the white man's dikk" for calling it out. You are very far gone in your indoctrination.

As far as what I am: Happily engaged to a Black man who doesn't loathe himself or Black women like the "pro-Black" males here. So you can go ahead and stop with the foolishness.

Last hint for you: if you are African-American or any other descent of African colonized peoples outside of Africa, there is 99% chance you are not of Egyptian descent. Hope that helps.
 
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*yawn*

Go ahead and do some research on the drastic differences that colonization caused to existing African "gender roles" and women's position in society. Go ahead and do your research on the status of women in pre-colonial Africa and the positions they held. The only person attempting to feel better here is you and your angry, sheep-like brethren. You don't think there's any other way to live successfully and in harmony with your woman unless you dominate her (even though African peoples did it for CENTURIES) like the white man does and you fools still have the gall to open your mouths to say anything about Black feminism like your adaptation of white chauvinism didn't force Black women's hand.
Keep it real: You want so badly to take the white man's place and have power over the black woman the way he had over white women for centuries and are distraught at the knowledge that this so-called dynamic of men being superior to and having ownership over women didn't exist in YOUR PEOPLE until he called you a savage for it not. I'm actually :heh: at the idea that you think the introduction of patriarchy is actually a good thing that your ignorant behind is acting like I'm "on the white man's dikk" for calling it out. You are very far gone in your indoctrination.

As far as what I am: Happily engaged to a Black man who doesn't loathe himself or Black women like the "pro-Black" males here. So you can go ahead and stop with the foolishness.

Last hint for you: if you are African-American or any other descent of African colonized peoples outside of Africa, there is 99% chance you are not of Egyptian descent. Hope that helps.
You're so insecure, ignorant, and full of shyt that it's funny. You can't even get your bullshyt together which is why you have to edit. You're arguing against a strawman that you yourself have created, not against anything that I've said. You expose yourself as not knowing what you're talking about by referring to Africa as if it were one society. One society in Africa being non patriarchal doesn't mean that they all were. You're so busy trying to throw the white man in my face as some kind of belittling insult that you can't even think straight:pachaha: Typical lonely bitter black feminist behavior just as I described. I have no qualms about acknowledging that part of ancient Africa was non patriarchal. My issue is with your c00nette mentality that causes you to convince yourself to believe myths. Your claim that no African society was "patriarchal" or male dominated until colonization is flat out lie. Again, you obviously have extremely low self esteem to even parrot that bullshyt. Miss me with trying to qualify yourself, I smell the bitter lonely stench on you through the screen.
 

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let's go with your belief. look at where your female lead nations got us. conquered and dominated when confronted with real patriarchies. hmm, why does that sound familiar.

She never met her daddy or have any rational thinking male in her life.
 

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You're so insecure, ignorant, and full of shyt that it's funny. You can't even get your bullshyt together which is why you have to edit. You're arguing against a strawman that you yourself have created, not against anything that I've said. You expose yourself as not knowing what you're talking about by referring to Africa as if it were one society. One society in Africa being non patriarchal doesn't mean that they all were.

Is this what I've reduced your ignorant argument to :pachaha: "B-b-b-but it wasn't all of them"? Obviously we are talking about the African-American experience and they descended from a particular part of Africa. From your mentioning of Egypt its clear you don't even know where that is so I'll also leave that to your research. But the fact of the matter is, THAT region was.not.patriarchal. Get as mad as you want to about it.

I have no qualms about acknowledging that most if not all of ancient Africa was non patriarchal.

Fixed.

My issue is with your c00nette mentality that causes you to convince yourself to believe myths. Your claim that no African society was "patriarchal" or male dominated until colonization is flat out lie.

Again, you have no idea what patriarchy is. I'm not even sure why you jumped into a conversation you clearly don't even know anything about. From where the majority of the slave trade happened/African-American lineage to the definition of patriarchy, you are simply lost. You actually think that the existence of male rulers = a patriarchy. Even after I explained it to you :dahell:

Again, you obviously have extremely low self esteem to even parrot that bullshyt. Miss me with trying to qualify yourself, I smell the bitter lonely stench on you through the screen.

K.

:umad: though

let's go with your belief. look at where your female lead nations got us. conquered and dominated when confronted with real patriarchies. hmm, why does that sound familiar.

Another person that has so bought into white men's ideals he not only doesn't realize a non-patriarchy =/= a female lead nation but also doesn't even know the definition of the words being used in this debate. Look up egalitarian and try again at your attempt to blame Black women for everything that happened with Black people then like you do with all Black issues today.
 

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I don't need to suggest it when history and evidence prove it. Pre-colonial African societies were largely egalitarian. Black women held positions of chiefs, high priestesses, warriors, commanders, and the like. They were rulers along side Black men in equal footing. A big part of the reason Europeans considered Africans "savages" is for that very reason, a fact that has been evidenced by words written by early European explorers to the continent about the continent.

Furthermore, lineages were traced through the mother. Studies on pre-colonial African language and literature has revealed that they did not even have gendered words.
How exactly could a patriarchy exist in a society where you aren't even looked at (see: limited) by your gender?

But of course, why would I need to tell you oh so conscious, oh so pro-Black, oh so knowledgeable Coli Black male warriors about the history of your people. Surely all the stones you spend day and night throwing at women and Black women are founded in reality and not personal frustrations you choose to project onto Black women.

Surely :mjpls:

This seems interesting :ehh:. Could you put me up on some books/links to learn more.

So you're seriously going to try to twist me choosing to not cape (or give a fukk about tbh) for a bunch of fools who hate women, particularly Black women, as a privilege of mine? Where is the logic?

You, who are in the midst of a forum full of constant female hatred, haven't made a post yet to call out the many males around you perpetuating it but feel justified in calling out a female member for not even spewing hate back, but simply not defending her haters...you don't have privilege, but the female member does?

:dahell: Oh ok.


I was being facetious, but if you wanna defend/co-sign MurderSheWrote's posts then you should just say so. :manny:
 
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