Official War With Iran Thread

[FAH1223]

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

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[Red Shield]

I think they might kill a high ranking Saudi official just to annoy Trump without giving reason to Americans to care.

The embassy, tanker, and oil facilities. They made sure never to kill someone. So now they see America has escalated to killing military officials.

ehh I don't see them attacking the Saud's when it was the usa that did this shyt

 

[Json]

ehh I don't see them attacking the Saud's when it was the usa that did this shyt

Attacking an American or European would force Euro alliance countries to back up the US.

Trump in particular is in the Saudi pocket. So it would be more about annoying him like a reverse of that journalist being killed.

 

[Blackfyre]

@NatashaBertrand
Warner not sounding reassured after speaking to CIA Director Gina Haspel >

Manu Raju
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@mkraju
Sen. Mark Warner, after speaking to Haspel about Iran, tells me: “The concern I have is America should have the ability to have the time and place to take action. My concern is if we look at the region, did the administration think through the full ramifications of this attack?”

13:48 - 3 Jan 2020

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

IRAN isn't going to escalate this into a ground war... the United States and its Commander in Cheeto on the other hand, who authorized this reckless assassination without congressional authorization (with only Russian consultation beforehand...) in the first place... absolutely will escalate this war (that's already been going on in proxy form for years before today) depending on how severe and deadly Iran's inevitable, asymmetrical response to Soleimani's assassination plays out. Hell Trump would be jumping at the chance to put American boots on the ground in Iran before the weekend's over if it could hypothetically guarantee Bolton's refusal to ever testify to the senate for example

There is no evidence that this is the case though . This is just conjecture based on who our president is

Trump is an idiot BUT even he knows that throwing the United States into a ground war is guaranteeing that he and his cronies loses power. A ground war in Iran means a Ground War all over the Middle East . There is nothing to gain from that. He knows this,Republicans know this .The people who are acting like a ground war is inevitable and WW3 is coming is indeed Twitter fearmongering

if we did this to China or Russia ? Then yes we’re fukked

If India or Pakistan got tired of the posturing and threw hands ? Then yes we’re fukked

If Israel just decides to jump out the window on some reckless shyt ? Then yes we’re fukked


If Taiwan says “We independent now ” and America says “yep you’re right “.. then yes we’re fukked

but not this situation because both sides know ultimately it ain’t really shyt to gain for the cost it’ll take .



Will this continue to be a proxy war ? Yep,for years to come .Iran tried to Benghazi Trump and they got checked
That’s on them



fukk congressional approval ,Obama didn’t need it for Libya ,Trump didn’t need it for this .

And I wish people would stop saying this dude was assassinated . Lumumba was assassinated ,this nikka was just a general that got touched while at battle

 

[Pressure]

Y'all act like y'all haven't spent years quoting pieces by Matt Taibbi.

Conjuring up ideas of a war mongering left.

Facilitating the idea that choosing between Trump and Hillary over foreign policy is a false choice.

Writing think pieces congratulating the youth for not voting for Hillary.

But the biggest problem is you all refuse to accept the bad elements of the American left as being a part of the American left because you don't associate with them personally.

Yeah @Pressure there's some morons out there, so I wouldn't put it past a few lefties to make dumb comments but show some receipts because this wasn't something any of the lefties I rock with even came close to alluding to wanting or legitimizing (whatever semantics you're getting at with the vagueness stated).

 

[Pressure]

It's like y'all don't remember pontificating how Hillary was to the right of Trump on foreign policy and in particular the middle east.

Spoiler

What scares me about her is her fear of being labeled weak which can lead her in to taking hawkish positions to prove she is a strong leader.

3. Read the interview, however, and you also see Clinton's weakness as a candidate: she is more hawkish than the post-Iraq Democratic Party. She is upset that she lost the internal administration debate over whether to intervene in Syria. She's focused on the expansive ambitions of radical jihadists. She takes a hard line on Iran's nuclear ambitions. She's frustrated that Obama thinks more about the dangers of action than the dangers of inaction. She's dismissive of Obama's shorthand foreign policy principle "don't do stupid stuff". She wants the country that defeated fascism and communism to develop a grand — and more interventionist — strategy to guide its leadership of the world. She sounds like a Democrat from 2002 rather than 2014.

WikiLeaks - Hillary Clinton Email Archive



So she is zionist bent on maintaining Israeli military hegemony in the middle east

Her interests don't lie within America but for Israel

“Donald Trump will be running to the left as we understand it against Hillary Clinton on national security issues,” Republican strategist Steve Schmidtsaid on MSNBC last week. “And the candidate in the race most like George W. Bush and dikk Cheney from a foreign policy perspective is in fact Hillary Clinton, not the Republican nominee.”

And it’s not only the militarism that Trump talks about, it’s Hillary’s massive record of militarism: the rush into Libya, which was really—you know, she was the prime mover behind that campaign, which the military advisers were largely against; her approval for the war in Iraq and so on; you know, her threat to bomb Iran; and, you know, she—and her demonization of Russia and China, and the pivot against China. We are rushing towards war with Hillary Clinton, who has a track record.

#JillNotHill

It's unreal, Hillary was out here in 2008 saying she'd nuke Iran

You're not voting for the people who attend a candidate's rallies, you're voting for the candidate. I would be much more comfortable at a Clinton rally than a Trump rally, but that doesn't stop me from preferring his policies to hers.

With that said this monkey face bytch is about to take it there when she takes office and I want no parts of this next war

Russia
Syria
Iran
North Korea

You Demtards dikkriders are telling nikkas Hillary is better than Trump? This bytch gonna start WWIII and you say this shyt is not rigged.... The cognitive dissonance is a mf

Obama's Middle East policy has been mostly poor....but Bush's was worse, and Clinton's will be worse.

The people who brought us these wars someone magically think that more and more war will get us out.

Flynn is by no means a peacenik, but I don't see him advocating the Bush/Hillary/Obama/Powers method of interventionism. The most likely way anti-Iran military action is taken is through Saudi or Israeli lobbying. Flynn has been critical of the former but genial to the latter. I don't like his stance on Iran at all, but when analyzed in context with his other statements and stances, especially towards Russia, I believe there will be mitigating factors preventing an invasion of Iran.

becsuze Hillary would've put the US in a nuclear war

"but hillary will start a war"

fukking shyt for brains mother fukkers

I'd rather have Trump than Hillary. If Hillary who called us super predators was in office, black people would not be able to see her for the racist that she is.
Trump is out with his racism so black people know who they're dealing with.
The proof of this was in Alabama. Black people are starting to finally mobilize. It's easier to deal with a wolf than a conniving fox.

look at this c*nt pushing for war with iran

im not sorry that she lost in 2016. fukk her

President Trump has obviously turned out to be more of a hawk than Candidate Trump, but the idea that Hillary Clinton would have been a definite and marked improved in this area doesn't seem based in reality. She was consistently one of the most hawkish voices in the Obama administration and behind his worst foreign policy moves.

that stupid "and you're gonna hear me rooooaaarrrr" song would be playing over and over again in her re-election campaign ads

all this same shyt with immigrant concentration camps would still be happening but it would be downplayed by the media even more than it already is because she's a woman and a democrat

the Iran deal probably would still be in place but the Pentagon would still be trying to start a war anyway and Hillary would be supporting their efforts

Repubs would have swept the midterms

Fox News and congressional Republicans would have successfully convinced the majority of people that she stole the election

Impeachment proceedings would be well underway

That pedo Epstein would be free, since the Clintons actually protect their friends, unlike Trump

Speaking of Trump, he'd be chilling somewhere, free from investigation since Centrist Scum like Hillary don't believe in wielding power




Basically what I'm saying is that it would be worse.

 

[Pressure]

He didn't stop Iraq.
He didn't stop Vietnam.
And there's nothing to suggest he will stop this.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Y'all act like y'all haven't spent years quoting pieces by Matt Taibbi.

Conjuring up ideas of a war mongering left.

Facilitating the idea that choosing between Trump and Hillary over foreign policy is a false choice.

Writing think pieces congratulating the youth for not voting for Hillary.

But the biggest problem is you all refuse to accept the bad elements of the American left as being a part of the American left because you don't associate with them personally.

 

[Pressure]

Ole If Obama didn't lose the senate living in the past ass nikkas

 

[FAH1223]

@Rhakim @ZoeGod @ill

 

[storyteller]

Y'all act like y'all haven't spent years quoting pieces by Matt Taibbi.

Conjuring up ideas of a war mongering left.

Facilitating the idea that choosing between Trump and Hillary over foreign policy is a false choice.

Writing think pieces congratulating the youth for not voting for Hillary.

But the biggest problem is you all refuse to accept the bad elements of the American left as being a part of the American left because you don't associate with them personally.

Yeah @Pressure there's some morons out there, so I wouldn't put it past a few lefties to make dumb comments but show some receipts because this wasn't something any of the lefties I rock with even came close to alluding to wanting or legitimizing (whatever semantics you're getting at with the vagueness stated).

I literally acknowledged the bad elements from the start when I gave you a chance to clarify out the gate. I can show you a lefty I rock with debating an accelerationist prior to the election (Sam Seder vs Jimmy Dore) too.

 

[jj23]

Iran's internal structure is far different than Iraqs. We don't need to nation build Iran. We don't need to appease 3 different warring factions like in Iraq. Iran is fairly solid from my understanding so the chaotic political arena that occurred in Iraq, won't occur in Iran. Lets not forget that part of the reason Iraq turned chaotic was that Iran was funding insurgency against both the US and the Iraqis.

IMO here's whats gonna happen. (Just my opinion).

Back in 2017 I talked with some friends in the Defense industry. They work for companies that supply war planes and missiles. Two diff people, two diff companies. Both said the same thing. We're gearing up for late 2019/early 2020. They said that weapons manufacturing, aka missiles, were being ramped up to levels they had never seen before, even during the Iraq war. This tells me we're gonna be dropping hammers on a LOT of Iranian military installations. Our war simulations clearly show us we have no chance for a ground invasion. I also don't think theres any support for that in the public or in the military. This will, IMO, strictly be dropping bombs on targeted sites to set their military and nuclear program back decades. The only chance for "ground" action is through their proxies in Syria, Yemen, or Lebanon. I'm of the opinion that Iranian proxies are spread extremely thin right now so any actions against the proxies will be swift and force them to draw back.

You seem to keep forgetting terrorist cells in the US.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

Democrats position can’t be “he been doing bad things for a long time ,why kill him now ?”

That just sounds weak as hell.